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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:49 am

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A fake claim that doesn't last long enough for him to endgame.

You shouldn't just widely and openly insult everybody. That's garbage play and IDGAF what you're going through. That's not an excuse. I've going through a divorce as well, maybe not as nasty or whatever (I don't know or need to know your life), but I'm not in here insulting everybody's fucking intelligence. Knock that shit off.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:51 am

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If you still believe DD is scum make a fucking case and fight for it. This AtE shit didn't fly in our last game and it doesn't fly here.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:55 am

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In post 623, chkflip wrote:
@MOD: Do you, personally, consider cult bastard or semi-bastard?
Neither, but this game also can't be considered "normal." The disclaimer was deemed necessary by the reviewer.
I consider true bastard the mod lying to people about their roles/actions etc. or the mod changing rules or gameplay willy nilly. This will not happen in my gamed. I think that is unfair. The roles everyone got are the roles everyone got and I won't pull any fast ones on people.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:56 am

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Good enough answer for me, bitches!
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:05 pm

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In post 623, chkflip wrote:
@MOD: Do you, personally, consider cult bastard or semi-bastard?
inb4mod Yes.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:07 pm

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In post 624, Titus wrote:If we all believe a cult exists, he makes a great fake claim
I just don't see him pulling that claim off with him posting the way he does
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:09 pm

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Frankly it's not out of the question for him to be scum truthfully claiming his role

Scum needs a way to fight the cult yeh?
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:20 pm

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In post 626, chkflip wrote:If you still believe DD is scum make a fucking case and fight for it. This AtE shit didn't fly in our last game and it doesn't fly here.
It's not an appeal to emotion to accept reality.

DD could be scum truthfully claiming if we accept a cult.

I really want a scum flip so I can VCA and I just don't see how DD/Elbrin is T v T with how the wagons tied.

I'd like to say I had strong confidence by play for one or the other but I don't. I'd expect if a cult was real, they'd join me in wanting DD dead but...
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:30 pm

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Like this is pretty much where we're at right:

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Mordhaus- we is town
GreyICE- claimed Vengeful
Elbirn- claimed VT
Doctor Drew- claimed Cult Hunter

Korina- Mason claim
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:55 pm

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In post 627, The Baker wrote:
In post 623, chkflip wrote:
@MOD: Do you, personally, consider cult bastard or semi-bastard?
Neither, but this game also can't be considered "normal." The disclaimer was deemed necessary by the reviewer.
I consider true bastard the mod lying to people about their roles/actions etc. or the mod changing rules or gameplay willy nilly. This will not happen in my gamed. I think that is unfair. The roles everyone got are the roles everyone got and I won't pull any fast ones on people.
As an aside:

Cult is explicitly a bastard role as defined on MS. There is a chance that your wincon will change drastically midgame.

What you're describing is bastard modding, which is seldom if ever acceptable without outright agreement from the players. Even with agreement it's often just not fun.

I'm gonna read up real quick to see if there's anything else I need to weigh in on.

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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:01 pm

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Nope. chkflip remains intriguing, Nips remains the best lynch, boredom remains real.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:01 pm

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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:06 pm

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In post 634, Mordhaus wrote:
In post 627, The Baker wrote:
In post 623, chkflip wrote:
@MOD: Do you, personally, consider cult bastard or semi-bastard?
Neither, but this game also can't be considered "normal." The disclaimer was deemed necessary by the reviewer.
I consider true bastard the mod lying to people about their roles/actions etc. or the mod changing rules or gameplay willy nilly. This will not happen in my gamed. I think that is unfair. The roles everyone got are the roles everyone got and I won't pull any fast ones on people.
As an aside:

Cult is explicitly a bastard role as defined on MS. There is a chance that your wincon will change drastically midgame.

What you're describing is bastard modding, which is seldom if ever acceptable without outright agreement from the players. Even with agreement it's often just not fun.

I'm gonna read up real quick to see if there's anything else I need to weigh in on.

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Well then. I guess I didn’t know there was a difference and thought it was all considered “bastard.” But My opinion still stands. I can’t really go into it any further because the game is going on. I trust my backup/reviewer and I did what they said so...
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:15 pm

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Explicitly:
In post 6694, The Baker wrote:Is it possible your game has any of the following bastard roles or mechanics? It's a bit bastard with a possible cult-like mechanic. No matter how the setup ends up going I guarantee a good time!
If it's any bonus to getting this game going in to sign-ups, the setup has already been created and reviewed. Also I'm chomping at the bit
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There might be a cult. There might not be. That's all you had to do. FlavorskiiesBoonleaf probably cautioned you to tell us explicitly there might be a cult like mechanic because he's the kind of mod or mod like person who would go out of his way to ensure only people who enjoy the right style of game sign up.

I just can't resist taking the time to professor mafia this shit, which may or may not have outed me to the entire playerlist.

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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:35 pm

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In post 633, Mordhaus wrote:Like this is pretty much where we're at right:

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Mordhaus- we is town
GreyICE- claimed Vengeful
Elbirn- claimed VT
Doctor Drew- claimed Cult Hunter

Korina- Mason claim
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gobbledygook- Mod confirmed Innocent Klok
Senator- Dead, Vanilla Klok
TiphaineDeath- Dead, Vanilla Klok
At this point, is there any harm in just going all the way and doing a mass claim?
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:40 pm

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I mean... My tinfoil is no scumteam and a vig, which I'd rather not get revealed if it's the case. Probably won't believe any other PR claims though.

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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:48 pm

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Come oooooon GI you can't be serious.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:03 pm

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So if Nips was culted, that leaves me, Titus, Flubbs, mord, and an outside chance of Elbirn.

My votes good.

Titus wanting the anti cult role dead points that direction though.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:05 pm

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Christ, I dunno. You tell me how to effectively cult hunt. At the moment, I know that Emperor, the two Masons, and Gobble are confirmed non-cult leader (with the small caveat that if Drew was recruited cult day 1 this
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be a cult fakeclaim to cover his cult leader Emperor). And the moderator doesn't think cults are bastard.

That basically means everyone else is on the table for me for lynching the cult leader. There won't be any associative tells, because they started the game as a solo player who just didn't want to be noticed. If Emperor or Drew was recruited last night then they're scum too.

I see a world where Drew is a fakeclaiming cult leader, and I think it might be worth lynching, but at the same time the role has high enough utility and is silly enough that if it's genuine and we lose it, we're screwed.

All I know is that I tend to avoid cult games like the plague.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:06 pm

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Although honestly Drew is guaranteed to be cult after tonight unless he 50% protects himself, and since no one can gamble on a coin flip, well, fuck it all.

Do you really think Doctor Drew came up with that fakeclaim on his own?
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:32 pm

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Idk is there daychat
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:32 pm

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If there's daychat Mordhaus and drew are confirmed same alignment in my eyes
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:35 pm

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In post 646, Flubbernugget wrote:If there's daychat Mordhaus and drew are confirmed same alignment in my eyes
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:35 pm

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That's a claim jingle would fabricate
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:41 pm

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Yes, there's daytalk. Me and BEF have daytalk, so I'd assume scumteam does too. I also asked about me and BEF being scum-masons, and I got back something to the effect of:
"I'm not that type of mod, and this game isn't that type of bastard"
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