Magical Girls UPick - Heart of Shadow (Game Over)

[Dannflor]

Like I feel silly having to defend myself in this way because it's actually ridiculous how often you're just taking my posts completely out of context

[Tana and Ephraim]

Posts #90, #447, #468, #515, #583, #979, #1021, #1029, #1031, #1058, #1061 all mention bitmap before my first mention of them to you in #1110. You had mentioned them a LOT in multiple other posts, and you seem to both scum and town read them in this period. You start by voting them, then shift to a town read, then shift back to "Idk I guess" when I question you on it. It's frankly weird how often you mention them without ever actually engaging with them.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Bitmap

I don't feel like Lady Eventide's posts have been that from town lately. Too mechanical and no scumhunting.

VOTE: Lady Eventide

This is essentially why I voted here as I was skimming the thread earlier.

Basically, the slot had continued making fluff posts while actual content was being produced between Titus and gameplay, then her first "real post" was purely mechanical. She throws down a vote on Titus in #242 that's not attached to anything and seems to be just voting for the sake of putting a vote down on a wagon. The OMGUS vote in #271 shows there wasn't really any strong reasoning attached to the previous vote.

Nothing since then has improved the slot for me. The hop onto Pops is reads very awkward.

Idk what you consider "mentioning bitmap" but this is him talking to bitmap?

Yeah, Gamma's push on Bitmap is bad, but I think it's the town sort of bad.

I guess this is kind of a mention but he's talking about Gamma.

unless I feel like Bitmap or pops is actually worth a push.

What on earth makes this a worthy push

Wasnt this refering to Krazy's push on our slot?

UNVOTE:

why

I like the reasoning against Senshi, yet it's also several slots that might townspew if there's town to spew, which leaves me somewhat torn.

Did your feelings on Bitmap change at all?

Inquiring about your read on bitmap... I guess this is kind of a mention.

I just don't know what makes DDL more deserving over Bitmap, HH, or Chaos Wind who she claimed to also not have a read on / or needed to contribute more

This is related to 4 names someone had mentioned? didnt go check exactly who mentioned what.

Wagons have been attempted on Sailor and Bitmap

This is just information.

I think a partner, or sailor, intentionally used the conflict with Ephraim to divert pressure from your wagon.

You think Sailor is Bitmap's partner?

I'm not really sure how this theory makes sense honestly

Ok this is a mention and somewhat of an stance.

What exactly about that conflict made you think it was manufactured to draw pressure away from Bitmap?

Inquiring.

C.) I've been exploring a hypothetical why the distraction would occur and Dann narrowed it into "RCE thinks Sailor is bits partner." Which is not what I said.

How is this distraction orchestrated if that's not what you believe

Sailor as town purposefully tries to distract from the Bitmap wagon?

I'm not following

Inquiring again.

Playing devil's advocate the case can be made that scum took advantage of you vs Ephraim as the catalyst. Which is what I was getting at when I alluded to the implication on LE's slot.

Oh okay

I'm still not sure how that gets you to Bitmap is scum

Like I don't know what exactly about the conflict is tipping you off that it was either a distraction or utilized as a distraction

Inquiring yet again.

Fact checking, did you just iso and ctrl+f bitmap
-Tana

Woopsie
-Tana

[Dannflor]

Posts #90, #447, #468, #515, #583, #979, #1021, #1029, #1031, #1058, #1061 all mention bitmap before my first mention of them to you in #1110. You had mentioned them a LOT in multiple other posts, and you seem to both scum and town read them in this period. You start by voting them, then shift to a town read, then shift back to "Idk I guess" when I question you on it. It's frankly weird how often you mention them without ever actually engaging with them.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Bitmap

I don't feel like Lady Eventide's posts have been that from town lately. Too mechanical and no scumhunting.

VOTE: Lady Eventide

This is essentially why I voted here as I was skimming the thread earlier.

Basically, the slot had continued making fluff posts while actual content was being produced between Titus and gameplay, then her first "real post" was purely mechanical. She throws down a vote on Titus in #242 that's not attached to anything and seems to be just voting for the sake of putting a vote down on a wagon. The OMGUS vote in #271 shows there wasn't really any strong reasoning attached to the previous vote.

Nothing since then has improved the slot for me. The hop onto Pops is reads very awkward.

Idk what you consider "mentioning bitmap" but this is him talking to bitmap?

Yeah, Gamma's push on Bitmap is bad, but I think it's the town sort of bad.

I guess this is kind of a mention but he's talking about Gamma.

unless I feel like Bitmap or pops is actually worth a push.

What on earth makes this a worthy push

Wasnt this refering to Krazy's push on our slot?

UNVOTE:

why

I like the reasoning against Senshi, yet it's also several slots that might townspew if there's town to spew, which leaves me somewhat torn.

Did your feelings on Bitmap change at all?

Inquiring about your read on bitmap... I guess this is kind of a mention.

I just don't know what makes DDL more deserving over Bitmap, HH, or Chaos Wind who she claimed to also not have a read on / or needed to contribute more

This is related to 4 names someone had mentioned? didnt go check exactly who mentioned what.

Wagons have been attempted on Sailor and Bitmap

This is just information.

I think a partner, or sailor, intentionally used the conflict with Ephraim to divert pressure from your wagon.

You think Sailor is Bitmap's partner?

I'm not really sure how this theory makes sense honestly

Ok this is a mention and somewhat of an stance.

What exactly about that conflict made you think it was manufactured to draw pressure away from Bitmap?

Inquiring.

C.) I've been exploring a hypothetical why the distraction would occur and Dann narrowed it into "RCE thinks Sailor is bits partner." Which is not what I said.

How is this distraction orchestrated if that's not what you believe

Sailor as town purposefully tries to distract from the Bitmap wagon?

I'm not following

Inquiring again.

Playing devil's advocate the case can be made that scum took advantage of you vs Ephraim as the catalyst. Which is what I was getting at when I alluded to the implication on LE's slot.

Oh okay

I'm still not sure how that gets you to Bitmap is scum

Like I don't know what exactly about the conflict is tipping you off that it was either a distraction or utilized as a distraction

Inquiring yet again.

Fact checking, did you just iso and ctrl+f bitmap
-Tana

I think that's exactly what she did and it doesn't match her narrative of my making a bunch of noise about Bitmap in both directions

[Dannflor]

Like I'm not gonna pretend I didn't swap from a vote to gut town read back to a scum read just now, but that does not match what you've made it out to be Lady E

[popsofctown]

How many times did you use the word bitmap in reference to computer graphics that meticulously depict an image pixel by pixel?

If you say 0 you will crush my magical girl heart

[popsofctown]

Dannflor is trying to pocket me by using sane ways of referring to the LLD and Eventide slots







It is working

[Dannflor]

my kitten tactic didn't work out so I gotta swap to this

[Lady Eventide]

Posts #90, #447, #468, #515, #583, #979, #1021, #1029, #1031, #1058, #1061 all mention bitmap before my first mention of them to you in #1110. You had mentioned them a LOT in multiple other posts, and you seem to both scum and town read them in this period. You start by voting them, then shift to a town read, then shift back to "Idk I guess" when I question you on it. It's frankly weird how often you mention them without ever actually engaging with them.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Bitmap

I don't feel like Lady Eventide's posts have been that from town lately. Too mechanical and no scumhunting.

VOTE: Lady Eventide

This is essentially why I voted here as I was skimming the thread earlier.

Basically, the slot had continued making fluff posts while actual content was being produced between Titus and gameplay, then her first "real post" was purely mechanical. She throws down a vote on Titus in #242 that's not attached to anything and seems to be just voting for the sake of putting a vote down on a wagon. The OMGUS vote in #271 shows there wasn't really any strong reasoning attached to the previous vote.

Nothing since then has improved the slot for me. The hop onto Pops is reads very awkward.

Idk what you consider "mentioning bitmap" but this is him talking to bitmap?

Yeah, Gamma's push on Bitmap is bad, but I think it's the town sort of bad.

I guess this is kind of a mention but he's talking about Gamma.

unless I feel like Bitmap or pops is actually worth a push.

What on earth makes this a worthy push

Wasnt this refering to Krazy's push on our slot?

UNVOTE:

why

I like the reasoning against Senshi, yet it's also several slots that might townspew if there's town to spew, which leaves me somewhat torn.

Did your feelings on Bitmap change at all?

Inquiring about your read on bitmap... I guess this is kind of a mention.

I just don't know what makes DDL more deserving over Bitmap, HH, or Chaos Wind who she claimed to also not have a read on / or needed to contribute more

This is related to 4 names someone had mentioned? didnt go check exactly who mentioned what.

Wagons have been attempted on Sailor and Bitmap

This is just information.

I think a partner, or sailor, intentionally used the conflict with Ephraim to divert pressure from your wagon.

You think Sailor is Bitmap's partner?

I'm not really sure how this theory makes sense honestly

Ok this is a mention and somewhat of an stance.

What exactly about that conflict made you think it was manufactured to draw pressure away from Bitmap?

Inquiring.

C.) I've been exploring a hypothetical why the distraction would occur and Dann narrowed it into "RCE thinks Sailor is bits partner." Which is not what I said.

How is this distraction orchestrated if that's not what you believe

Sailor as town purposefully tries to distract from the Bitmap wagon?

I'm not following

Inquiring again.

Playing devil's advocate the case can be made that scum took advantage of you vs Ephraim as the catalyst. Which is what I was getting at when I alluded to the implication on LE's slot.

Oh okay

I'm still not sure how that gets you to Bitmap is scum

Like I don't know what exactly about the conflict is tipping you off that it was either a distraction or utilized as a distraction

Inquiring yet again.

Fact checking, did you just iso and ctrl+f bitmap
-Tana

Yep. And I don't deny that a lot of these mentions are tangential. It's just... I would expect that someone who you've mentioned offhandedly in 1/7 of your posts, and placed a vote on,

might actually be someone you should be invested in solving? Just maybe??

@Dannflor: Yeah, I'm not saying that you were pushing them or anything; if anything I'm surprised that you manage to mention them this much without ever actually... coming around to focus on them? Sorry, I was a bit incredulous at your original statement due to knowing that I'd seem multiple comments from you referencing Bitmap, but even with the initial shock having worn off I still think there's something of substance here to look into.

[Tana and Ephraim]

There are comments with each quote in the spoilerbox btw
-Tana

[popsofctown]

If Tana fools with stuff like this as scum she efforts enough at scum she can just beat me at mafia that's fine

[popsofctown]

I don't see why I should worry about this slot

[popsofctown]

Sue me

[Titus]

Katsuki, vote Bitmap please

[Dannflor]

Yep. And I don't deny that a lot of these mentions are tangential. It's just... I would expect that someone who you've mentioned offhandedly in 1/7 of your posts, and placed a vote on, might actually be someone you should be invested in solving? Just maybe??

Okay, now that's a little more reasonable.

You mentioned you're town reading Bitmap right now? Why is that?

I think his most recent scum read on Pops is really weak.

[Dannflor]

If Tana fools with stuff like this as scum she efforts enough at scum she can just beat me at mafia that's fine

there are enough reasons to town read that slot that I don't think it's worth reconsidering until lylo

[popsofctown]

If Tana fools with stuff like this as scum she efforts enough at scum she can just beat me at mafia that's fine

there are enough reasons to town read that slot that I don't think it's worth reconsidering until lylo

With a slot like this I tend toward the mindset "If this slot is alive in LyLo it's not one of the options, unless something dramatic has happened"

That might only be a semantic difference though.

[popsofctown]

Dannflor are you a Heart of Light

[Lady Eventide]

Continuing from my previous post: Instead I got this weird halfassed reply from Dann where he says he's not interested in bitmap and doesn't understand why I care about them. (First in #1110 where he says that my request "seems random", and then more elaborately in #1330, where he admits to having no strong read but still refuses to put one together. It's now been almost 24 hours since then, and I still do not have my analysis from Dann. This does not endear them to me.)

Pedit @Dannflor:

It's frankly a gutread based on tone, and a bit stale besides at this point, given that I've reconsidered RCE scum. The fact that you've apparently reconsidered your townread makes me want to reread them again; I don't have a solid read here either, though their posts seem individually solve-y and good? I definitely do need to have another look at them. Sigh.

... looking at the pops interaction, I have to say I agree with you. The continued long-running suspicion of Pops throughout the whole day so far is frankly starting to give me the heebie-jeebies; I think they may be ML-bait, so the push itself is potentially bad even before I look at the reasoning and find it questionable. I also don't like that Bitmap bothered to reply "no" to my question of "does anyone townread this" re: Katsuki; that's a useless comment, but it feels like the kind of thing that you do to look town as scum. And their refusal to answer questions about their early play is also NAGL.

... innnnnteresting.

Also, should I take it that this means you're now seriously endorsing a scumread of Bitmap?

[Tana and Ephraim]

I think his most recent scum read on Pops is really weak.

You know, I kind of agree with this. My experience with him in Hidden Speakeasy, at least he had good reasons for his scumreads, even if he only voiced them to me.
-Tana

[Dannflor]

Dannflor are you a Heart of Light

I am a Heart of Light

[Dannflor]

Instead I got this weird halfassed reply from Dann where he says he's not interested in bitmap and doesn't understand why I care about them. (First in #1110 where he says that my request "seems random", and then more elaborately in #1330, where he admits to having no strong read but still refuses to put one together. It's now been almost 24 hours since then, and I still do not have my analysis from Dann. This does not endear them to me.)

It was weird and halfassed because I frankly did not want to engage with you after I felt you were misinterpreting several of my posts.

I still feel like you're doing that to an extent but I'm making an effort to engage with you because I now think you're more likely to be town.

[popsofctown]

What's wrong with engaging with scum?

[Dannflor]

Also, should I take it that this means you're now seriously endorsing a scumread of Bitmap?

I mean yeah, I'm voting them

[Dannflor]

What's wrong with engaging with scum?

nothing

but at that point I'd gotten all I needed from what I thought was scum!Lady E and I was moderately annoyed by the way she was representing my posts

[Bitmap]

UNVOTE:

Ok, let me think this game over a bit.