Magical Girls UPick - Heart of Shadow (Game Over)

[gameplay506]

For?
Saying what I want to say
Not agreeing with you
Or just answering something directed at another player

[Bitmap]

For?
Saying what I want to say
Not agreeing with you
Or just answering something directed at another player

Defending someone when you weren't even in the line of convo when that someone has contributed 0 to town.

[popsofctown]

Not a good look, Bitmap.

[Bitmap]

very cool pops

[gameplay506]

For?
Saying what I want to say
Not agreeing with you
Or just answering something directed at another player

Defending someone when you weren't even in the line of convo when that someone has contributed 0 to town.

Ok we both know this isn't actually a thing
Chill please and lets get back to Dann and his switch or even Lady E and her scumminess ok?

[gameplay506]

I can even give you more cheese for it, cool?

[Bitmap]

I'm already voting LE.

[Katsuki]

Oh hey I can post like this too, cool!

[Lady Eventide]

Since I'm being suspected again, looks like it's time for a Readslist

I'm going to be blunt: Saying "I think this person is scum" or "I think this person is town" is more about the social aspect of the game to me than the solving part of the game. It's easy to say, and there are always reasons to scum or town read anyone. Interacting with information is easy and it's not a problem for most people to make up fake, consistent reads.

What it's not easy to do is

generate

information. And scum have to do that. They have to falsify continually. This is why I care more about the reasons for a read than the read itself; reads, to me, are just announcements of "I think this guy is on my team." Towny -> "My ally", Scummy -> "My enemy."

This may be an insane way of playing the game to some, but frankly there's no such thing as a universal scumtell/towntell. All I can do is force the wolves to keep producing content. Eventually, that's going to lead to someone fucking up.

… except of course that's not the complete picture. Because the other half of it is mirroring, empathy, understanding. So, here's my

real

readslist:

Sailor Senshi:
- Prefers to not put in effort, but once prodded takes it as a matter of pride to be louder than everyone else.
- Genuinely reconsidered their read on me.
- Exposes their thought process. Not afraid to be loud.
- Overall, generating a lot of information. Not someone I want to lynch.

Dannfor:
- Refuses to engage with people they scumread.
- Seems to prefer an observer/analyst role, but broke character to try and intervene in the Senshi/Tana fight. A compassionate/diplomatic streak is possible, but their refusal to engage with thought-scum doesn't tally with that. Their reactions to me also don't seem to bear this out.
- Overall, either difficult to read or scum. I'm not averse to solving this slot with a lynch.

Tana/Ephiraim:
Ephiraim head:
- Deeply opiniated and tunnels hard. Has a very high opinion of their own play level, deeply prideful.
- Doesn't expose their reasoning for their reads, probably because they 1: don't think anyone else will be able to follow it and 2: don't feel that they owe anyone else anything. Honestly believes that they can solve the entire game by themselves.
- Doesn't give a fuck about looking inconsistent, because they're above that.
- Overall, an extremely strong player. Large portions of their presentation are probably a masking persona.
- Does have a hot-tempered streak. When combined with their pride, this makes them manipulable through their anger and their unwillingness to consider that they might be wrong.
- Reminds me a lot of Acionyx from MSPA, and probably has a similar meta - either is NK'd early, is left alive for wine reasons by those who think they can direct that anger, or is an extremely good power/open wolf. The "lynch by assertion" behavior is deep mafia-skill and speaks to his local reputation.
- Leave them alive and see if they get NK'd. If they live, watch for others trying to push suspicion on them; scum may attempt a paranoia lynch. If no paranoia lynch manifests,

then

actually get paranoid.

Tana head:
- Weaker player than Ephiraim, and selfconcious about it even when she thinks he's making mistakes. Unwilling to overrule her hydra partner.
- Very open with her emotions. I can see why Ephiraim wants her in the hydra to improve his legibility; it's a warding measure against the paranoia lynch d2/3 if town and d4/5 if scum.
- Compassionate/thoughtful streak. Sees me as town but unwilling to really make a strong case on that to Ephiraim because she's the junior partner and he's got an ego the size of a planet.
- Overall I wish this hydra had a more equal partnership; Ephi has the power, Tana the heart. If they were actually working together they'd be pretty much unstoppable. Then again, maybe I should be happy they're not. ^^;;

Café Stile:
- Not super invested in the game. Have been present, but noncontributing.
- Heads are difficult to differentiate. Hideri is more casual, Maika more formal. Both seem relatively weak players, but that may just be lack of engagement.
- I may be being played here, because of reasons.
- Respect RC deeply, don't feel that they can read him… but then attempted to read him anyway in their most recent readslist. Why do they say one thing and do another?
- Their attempts to contribute as of being called on not contributing are poorly assembled and shaky. I want to exert more pressure here; if they don't demonstrate they're actually reading more deeply, they're a potential lynch as a noncontributor with decent scum equity.

Croag:
- Slank as fuck.
- Either the wolves are deeply frustrated about that right now, or they're happy that a townie's gonna get vigged instead of them.
- Their playstyle, based on the four posts I've got, looks like Hyena - very crazy, do-whatever-to-get-reactions, generally a shit disturber. Kind of glad they aren't actually playing.
- Not worth a lynch; let the vig get to them.

RCEnigma:
- Known for moonlogic. That says to me that they might play like me - emotive/tonereader, does a lot of gutreading and paranoia cases.
- This's been borne out so far in my interactions with them, though they've seemed in some ways more analytical than me.
- Seems to be playing this game relatively 'straight' compared to their reputation. Either this site is highly biased towards analytical play (not what I expect) or they're outside their usual range. Given that they're being highly scumread, the latter seems more likely.
- However, they've been very forthcoming and able to engage with weird ideas/twists on their theories on a factual basis. Doesn't just dismiss my ideas out of hand, but puts in effort to actually consider them.
- Overall, I don't want to lynch here today. Though I might come back to this slot later, I want to give them time to convince me that they're just playing this game differently from usual.

Lady Lambdadelta:
- Is Lady Lambda-fucking-delta. Scary as hell. Best wolf I know.
- Seems to be not super invested in the game, which goes against what I know of her. Then again, life is a thing.
- Her general wait-and-see attitude towards me strikes me as questionable, but it's not worth getting into a fight with her over.
- Overall, there are a lot of little things that are getting tallied into my 'scum Lexi' column and not much that's getting tallied into my 'town Lexi' column. I expect more impact on the game from an experienced player like her.

Katsuki:
- Doesn't give a fuck about pressure.
- Openly laughs at attempts to get her lynched early.
- Again, strong-player vibes, this time in the vein of CuriousCat with a sprinkling of Nictis.
- Resorts to personal insults very very easily. Might be part of the persona, might be genuine annoyance.
- Probably not worth pressure this early, despite her blatantly anti-town behavior. Kat gonna Kat. (What is up with players like this having animal names?)

Dr. Dolittle:
- Feels like english isn't their native language.
- Seems to prefer shortform ISOs, but also engages RTA when they can. Atypical playstyle; most do only one or the other. Not a turtle, not a nictis, not a cat, not a hyena. Despite my lack of grasp on how they think, they seem to be contributing as best they can; I want to take time to figure this slot out, would not lynch today.

Chaos Wind:
- Seems to be composed solely of Chemist.
- Chemist tends to be an analytical, 'far' player. Their memeiness here is unusual.
- Unfortunately, their lack of forthcomingness and poor activity are fairly typical.
- Did not respond seriously to a vote from me. Which is pretty typical, actually.
- Overall, meh. Given that they're townreading me though, not a priority; can be sorted later.

Hidden Happiness:
- Relatively little content. Open with what content they're produced.
- Townreading me, can be sorted later due to lack of threat.

Bitmap:
- Casual player, but seems a bit more formal about reads. I need direct interactions here; reading the ISO is just not cutting it. Current impression is both decently skilled and contributing, but… needs investigating.

Pops:
- Either not paying attention or not good at talking. I feel like it's some of both; some of their posts are near-incoherent. Easy ML bait if town.
- Have been under near constant low-grade suspicion ever since daystart, which is giving me the heebie-jeebies.
- I wouldn't really miss them given that they seem relatively unskilled, but they genuinely seem to be trying and I want to give them a chance to improve. Not going to lynch them today.

Gameplay:
- Another relatively casual player. Feels genuine, in the sort of hyena/classically townie mold. Doesn't feel super skilled, could be ML bait.
- Not really worth a lot of investigation, will probably self-sort by D3 just based on their current play.
- LLD's comment re: their "help I'm town" cry feels good to me; reminds me of them hard defending another weak townie in G5. NAI for LLD, but likely legit AI for Gameplay.

Titus:
- I have no idea what this slot is doing. They give the impression of being experienced, but then they keep doing weirdass shit. Hyena-style player?
- Their pushes at me feel badly justified, especially that they want to freeze the wagons now that I'm back under the microscope.
- I was leaning T/T on the titus/gameplay fight earlier. Am I letting their push at me affect my opinion too much?
- Overall, a difficult slot. Might be worth a lynch just to remove the random factor.

Gamma Emerald:
- Feels like a classical Grapefruit or Comiturtle style poster. Analytical, thinks things through, makes their reasons for things clear. Not all their actions are good, but they all proceed from sensible reasonings.
- If they're scum and they keep this up for the entire rest of the game, I feel like they deserve to win at that point. Not lynching unless they do something egregious.
- May be worth noting that they haven't posted for over 24 hours at this point, though.

[popsofctown]

Is IIoA part of MU site culture

[popsofctown]

Oh, apparently I'm voting Café Stile atm

VOTE: Lady Eventide

[Lady Eventide]

Is IIoA part of MU site culture

Oh fuck off.

On second thought... Nah, still fuck off. This is a good post (if I do say so myself) and I'm not gonna engage you when you've obviously not read it.

[gameplay506]

This felt like reading my horoscope for the week lul

[Tana and Ephraim]

interested in more thoughts on this

does anyone else think that LE's previous post does not tonally match the rest of their posting this game at all and could potentially have been written by someone else

[RCEnigma]

interested in more thoughts on this

does anyone else think that LE's previous post does not tonally match the rest of their posting this game at all and could potentially have been written by someone else

Yeah I think it's possible two people are playing on the same account.

[gameplay506]

Idk but the fact that my brain didn't actually overheat this time does point to it being different somehow
Its might actually be a decent post

[Katsuki]

Yes.
pdit@rc

[Tana and Ephraim]

Not what I meant, particularly when this is clearly not a Lillaire post from what we've seen of Lillaire so far.

[Bitmap]

i hate reads list

I like the target one/two person at a time approach

interested in more thoughts on this

does anyone else think that LE's previous post does not tonally match the rest of their posting this game at all and could potentially have been written by someone else

Possibly the other head?

[RCEnigma]

The hyena, communistturtle, etc, are mu players?

[gameplay506]

@Lady E what is a hyena, turtle and all the other animal playstyles

[popsofctown]

Is IIoA part of MU site culture

Oh fuck off.

On second thought... Nah, still fuck off. This is a good post (if I do say so myself) and I'm not gonna engage you when you've obviously not read it.

I read every word of your post. I read every word of this thread. Why would you assume otherwise?
The post is not devoid of analysis, but includes a lot of excess information.
All players post some amount of information that is not analysis. It's a tell that depends greatly on the backdrop meta of the player it's being applied to, or the backdrop expectation of what an average town player will do. If that expectation isn't calibrated accurately you'll get false positives.
So the extent to which informational posting styles are present in your previous games is relevant to how alignment indicative it is.

[Tana and Ephraim]

LE, why don't you investigate Bitmap given that he's the other major wagon right now? You haven't felt interested in figuring him out even though he's been voting you multiple times.

[Bitmap]

LE posting a blanket reads list with no real hard reads at this stage of the game is something I do as scum.

So I think it's scummy.

[Lady Eventide]

interested in more thoughts on this

does anyone else think that LE's previous post does not tonally match the rest of their posting this game at all and could potentially have been written by someone else

*laughs*

Oh my god you're so off

this is the god of mafia??

like, wow

it's me

not even lily's here

the degree to which you haven't read wildcard 1 is just becoming more and more obvious; seriously, read my SOD2 wall and my posts following, I have a very wide range of presentation and this is in no way atypical for me.

lol

"someone else"


Pedit: Oh, damn it, didn't include a key.

Analyst players I used for comparison:
Comiturtle: Player on SV, very quiet, good at analysis but prone to having his entirely correct reads ignored.
Grapefruit21: Player on MU, similar to Comi but with a bit more presence.

Crazy/Maverick/Gutreader players:
Hyena: Player on MU, very FPS-y, puts pressure on everyone randomly just to see what happens, fond of reaction tests. Scumread even when town.

Strong Presence/Townleader-y players:
Acionyx: Player on MSPAFA back in like 2011; very aggressive, bullying town-leader persona, very fond of REASONS and VCA; often nightkilled, when not NK'd often scum.
Nictis: Player from SV. Like Acionyx, but with less control over his temper and far worse reads. Very big presence, often a detrimental influence on games because he gets shit wrong, loudly, and never reconsiders.

Lurking/Observer type players:
CuriousCat: Another MSPAFA poster. Known for being damn near indistinguishable town/scum and never posting anything of substance on D1. "Cat gonna cat" was the constant refrain. This is her avi, I have it saved: