Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[jjh927]

I'm a town flagbearer, on top of another ability. I have no idea when my flagbearing ability activates, nor how many people will die when it actives, but I do know it doesn't kill every single townie, nor can it active on D1. I'm also assuming since the game was reviewed for balance that my ability is at least somewhat fair.

[Korina]

Ok, literally jjh, if I were to be trying to fakeclaim something, I've already stated that modified roleblocker would be so much easier to get away with.
Additionally, if I'm scum here, WHY THE FUCK AM I CLAIMING I'M A FLAGBEARER? WHAT BENEFIT DOES SCUM!ME GAIN FROM SAYING I'M A SCUMROLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT'D MEAN EVERYONE ON MY FACTION DIES?

[jjh927]

Because when we lynch you, your faction won't all die

[TemporalLich]

yeah this is why Korina is potentially scum... doesn't mean Korina is guiltied scum

[jjh927]

Well, we're deciding today

[Korina]

Ok, jjh, literally use your fucking brain for a moment. Let's say I'm scum here, alright? My role is exactly what I claimed, but I know exactly what my flagbearing conditions are. Let's also say that it's standard flagbearer, where all members of my faction die.
I have two options for what I can do:
- Not claim flagbearer, hope for the best.
- Claim flagbearer, but attach something so convoluted and hope people believe it.

Which one is easier for scum!me to do? It's not claiming flagbearer.
Even if I have a modified ability where not all members of my faction will die, not claiming flagbearer is much easier to go with.

So please, explain why the fuck I claim flagbearer as scum, unless you believe I'm a third party flagbearer claiming town.

[TemporalLich]

Well, we're deciding today

We have 11 days until the deadline. If you want to powerlynch Korina I'm not accountable for the town getting thanos snapped.

[jjh927]

Korina said whatever thing it is can't activate on day 1 and he doesn't know how it activates, except that that doesn't make sense because Korina has been arguing that we don't want to lynch him day 1 because bad mysterious flagbearer things will happen

This is two inconsistencies of logic in one, because 1. Korina simultaneously does not know how it activates but also knows it is from a lynch, and 2. Day 1 should be the only safe day to lynch him if he's telling the truth

[jjh927]

Ok, jjh, literally use your fucking brain for a moment. Let's say I'm scum here, alright? My role is exactly what I claimed, but I know exactly what my flagbearing conditions are. Let's also say that it's standard flagbearer, where all members of my faction die.
I have two options for what I can do:
- Not claim flagbearer, hope for the best.
- Claim flagbearer, but attach something so convoluted and hope people believe it.

Which one is easier for scum!me to do? It's not claiming flagbearer.
Even if I have a modified ability where not all members of my faction will die, not claiming flagbearer is much easier to go with.

So please, explain why the fuck I claim flagbearer as scum, unless you believe I'm a third party flagbearer claiming town.

No

I don't do "Why do I do this as scum" arguments because they're trash

[TemporalLich]

"Korina flubbed his role claim" does not equal "Korina is confirmed scum"

Even then powerlynching Korina is a bad move, and I wouldn't be surprised you're scum jjh....

VOTE: jjh927

[jjh927]

That particular "Why would I do this as scum" argument is also wrought with assumptions I don't care to unpack

[jjh927]

Goddamn that's an awful vote

[jjh927]

Lying about your role and using said lies to justify why you shouldn't be lynched ABSOLUTELY equals scum

[Korina]

jjh, part of my role is literally confirmed.

[TemporalLich]

Goddamn that's an awful vote

thanks for the side of OMGUS... it tastes like blue cherry gatorade

pedit: actually yeah that's a good point but Korina is untouchable until LYLO

[jjh927]

It's not omgus

The vote is awful because your logic is nonsensical and I explained why

[TemporalLich]

just in case Korina is a scum who flagbears

town

(which would be really overpowered lol)

[jjh927]

jjh, part of my role is literally confirmed.

Cool

The rest of your claim is inconsistent in a way you have not addressed

[Korina]

It's literally confirmed by multiple people that I have the ability to create neighborhoods. The modifiers on that ability can't be confirmed, but they exist.
If I rolled scum here, it'd be more useful to scum to have a roleblocker over a neighborhood creator. Reasonably, if I were to have access to the neighborhoods, that could be justified for a scum role, however, I don't have access to them. I literally had no idea if the ability even went through before we got the first confirmations of it working.

[Korina]

Also, jjh, if you have proof I'm lying about my role, please present it.

[jjh927]

just in case Korina is a scum who flagbears

town

(which would be really overpowered lol)

Why would you ever approach this train of thought at all

[Korina]

I'd fucking love to see you disprove what the mod told me.

[jjh927]

Also, jjh, if you have proof I'm lying about my role, please present it.

Korina said whatever thing it is can't activate on day 1 and he doesn't know how it activates, except that that doesn't make sense because Korina has been arguing that we don't want to lynch him day 1 because bad mysterious flagbearer things will happen

This is two inconsistencies of logic in one, because 1. Korina simultaneously does not know how it activates but also knows it is from a lynch, and 2. Day 1 should be the only safe day to lynch him if he's telling the truth

[TemporalLich]

just in case Korina is a scum who flagbears

town

(which would be really overpowered lol)

Why would you ever approach this train of thought at all

Because I'm TemporalLich and I can imagine crystalline dragons riding a taxi.

[Korina]

When have I ever argued that bad mysterious flagbearer things will happen? I've been arguing the rest of my role has more power that'd go to waste if I get lynched d1.