Magical Girls UPick - Heart of Shadow (Game Over)

[Tana and Ephraim]

my record this year in my town games

I lynched scum ~60% of the time on day 1 and in the games where i lynched town on day 1, i lynched scum 100% of the time D2 when i was alive.

I will consent to being lynched D3 if I'm still alive, given that I'm a claimed investigative and I agree my slot probably shouldn't make it to endgame.

on day 3 all the people who scumread you will be dead and the people left alive are going to be the people who will say 'oh she agreed to be lynched so she is town'

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma's attack on me kind of felt like genuine town. Not entirely sure though.

I think you have some trust issues
You scumread people who townread you
And townread people who scumread you
Is this mafia's doing?

*K ONLY SERIOUS GP FROM NOW ON*
Pedit:Oh, how kind

Are you saying that's how he reads everyone or what the fuck are you saying?

I still want answers to this

[Tana and Ephraim]

like i think if you're scum it should be pretty obvious that without my voice you're not going to get lynched
agreeing to be lynched on d3 sounds like the kind of thing you'd do to kick the can down the line to a point where there's no strong enough voices to kill you over the people tring you

[Hidden Happiness]

I have a way of confing LE.
We don't need to do anything
~Celica

[Tana and Ephraim]

i feel like i'm reading MariaR not LLD whenever i read through LLD's posting in this game

[Gamma Emerald]

I never said that @Gamma

I have never expressed a read on you in fact.

You

what

.

Five seconds after you got all up in his face regarding his possible scumread of you, you say you've never expressed a read on him?

This might be technically true but it's blatant gaslighting.

Never addressed this because I was dealing with RC, but this is timeline manipulation

[Lady Eventide]

I have a way of confing LE.
We don't need to do anything
~Celica

blink blink?

[Hidden Happiness]

LE. Can you do me a favor and not do anything tonight?
Thanks!
~Celica

[Tana and Ephraim]

I'm not going with this, HH.

Would rather you do whatever you're going to do on someone else.

[Lady Eventide]

like i think if you're scum it should be pretty obvious that without my voice you're not going to get lynched
agreeing to be lynched on d3 sounds like the kind of thing you'd do to kick the can down the line to a point where there's no strong enough voices to kill you over the people tring you

This is a game with you, LLD and theoretically Katsuki in it.

Seriously?

@Celica: I STG if you confirm me by vigging me I'll be very sad. But sure; I have good reason to not transform so that Bitmap is more likely to be able to do their thing.

[RCEnigma]

I'm not going with this, HH.

Would rather you do whatever you're going to do on someone else.

Why? Because you suspect HH(?) Or the two of them together?

[Tana and Ephraim]

I'm not going with this, HH.

Would rather you do whatever you're going to do on someone else.

Why? Because you suspect HH(?) Or the two of them together?

She can be roleblocked or something and I think if that happens and we end up gone then they'll still end up not lynched.

[RCEnigma]

Wouldn't you being nked give more weight to your read?

[Tana and Ephraim]

Wouldn't you being nked give more weight to your read?

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[popsofctown]

Wouldn't you being nked give more weight to your read?

Ahahahhahahahahahahahaha it never works like that oh I'm ninja'd.

[Lady Eventide]

Wouldn't you being nked give more weight to your read?

... Votable tbqh

[RCEnigma]

Generally no but RC is a different case.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: Me on page 91

Ok

Is it possible that at 2:48 AM my time when I've been going to bed at reasonable hours for weeks my mental faculties aren't entirely there and I misread questions?

What's the scum motivation in the misrepresentation / taking it out of context / whatever

I'M NOT TRYING TO PAINT ANYTHING YOUR DOING AS SCUM RIGHT NOW.
WHY ARE YOU SO SENSITIVE?

I honestly think scum!me doesn't get defensive like this, specifically my frustration at the sensitivity would probably be more pointed comments at RC.

If you got a problem with that, deal with it in a PT.

What?

Asking why someone should get a PT to deal with Titus' play

LLD's case is that it's suspicious you have multiple cases and none of them seem likely to be busses, proving you know the scumteam because you are outperforming rand.

@titus

Okay this makes 0 sense. If Titus is TMIing the team why does LLD say none of it looks like bussing?

Asking about what kinda seems like an inconsistency

oof

oh yeah she herself said ate is a scumtell...

And your slot argued against that then. But now that that's no longer convenient, you've changed your tune. Not only that, I thought you were uninterested in how I characterizw my own play? Your case is falling apart, RC.

Let's take another look at that list of tells, actually. Thanks for reminding me of it.

Looking for scapegoats.

VS Apologizing and owning fault.

Sowing discord.

VS. Promoting cooperation.

Lack of real analysis.

VS. Doing serious analysis work.
Lurking for long periods. VS.

Making efforts to be active.

Attacking the accuser, not the argument.

VS. Engaging seriously with accusations.

Speaking for or over others.

VS. Letting others speak their minds.

Appealing to emotion.

VS. Using logic over emotion.

Not pushing claimed suspicions.

VS. Putting real pressure on others.

Knowing too much.

VS. Showing genuine uncertainty.

... Huh. Seems like by a list I made in a completely different game, in a completely different context, you're objectively far scummier than not. Interesting.

Um no. RC is pushing you for your logic, not his. It's the same thing for me pushing Bitmap for his "inconsistency" bout scum starting wagons, I believed Bitmap here was making sense generally bit that doesn't change the fact it seemed like he was betraying his own beliefs. RC is saying you seem to be betraying your beliefs by saying the AtE isn't scummy.

I think scum!me would struggle with making this post. Dann said scum!me was more self aware earlier, I honestly think when it comes to retroactive considerations town me is more self aware.

I was referring less to the AtE itself

and more to the calling me an egoist and saying that i treat others like pawns, etc. more the

unnecessarily hurtful things

that she was saying that she said she had a meta of saying as scum.

Turnavour is fair play: Isn't this AtE?

No it' really fucking not
VOTE: Lady Eventide
I'm so voting here when I finish my catch up so I'm not gonna put it off.

Me voting LE because it was pretty apparent there was some twisting of the situation.

i think i lost my way in this game and need to reset

VOTE: Bitmap
Or i can just vote bitmap... which i guess it's the same thing kinda, while he does.
-Tana

Er what

Thought Sakura made a post that was actually RC

oof

oh yeah she herself said ate is a scumtell...

And your slot argued against that then. But now that that's no longer convenient, you've changed your tune. Not only that, I thought you were uninterested in how I characterizw my own play? Your case is falling apart, RC.

Let's take another look at that list of tells, actually. Thanks for reminding me of it.

Looking for scapegoats.

VS Apologizing and owning fault.

Sowing discord.

VS. Promoting cooperation.

Lack of real analysis.

VS. Doing serious analysis work.
Lurking for long periods. VS.

Making efforts to be active.

Attacking the accuser, not the argument.

VS. Engaging seriously with accusations.

Speaking for or over others.

VS. Letting others speak their minds.

Appealing to emotion.

VS. Using logic over emotion.

Not pushing claimed suspicions.

VS. Putting real pressure on others.

Knowing too much.

VS. Showing genuine uncertainty.

... Huh. Seems like by a list I made in a completely different game, in a completely different context, you're objectively far scummier than not. Interesting.

Um no. RC is pushing you for your logic, not his. It's the same thing for me pushing Bitmap for his "inconsistency" bout scum starting wagons, I believed Bitmap here was making sense generally bit that doesn't change the fact it seemed like he was betraying his own beliefs. RC is saying you seem to be betraying your beliefs by saying the AtE isn't scummy.

... saying what AtE isn't scummy? What are you referencing here?

@Pops, Gameplay: Sure, whatever, I'm fine with this; RC is big and it's hard to fight his thread control on his home turf. That said, I really hope you take a long hard look at him after my lynch, assuming that happens.

Idk what I'm referencing but it doesn't matter because it's a situation of principle. You said AtE was scummy initially, then at least as the situation seems to indicate you took a different stance on AtE in practice, so RC called you out.

Instead of talking about myself, I'll say this: with full context I feel like LE's spot here looks worse

Yeah we actually should not have unvoted LE.

VOTE: Lady Eventide

I think that unvote is my signature correct scumread then derailing it to go vote town.

Okay no
I thought Sakura ended up not tagging a post but it seems I was wrong

continuation of 2268

Hypocrisy is not alignment indicative

Maybe not but when you start trying to twist it to scumpaint the person calling you out it sure as hell is.

Me trying to elaborate on my LE scumread

So, Maria, wanna tell me why you think this is in my scumrange? Because I think the opposite is true.

[Tana and Ephraim]

I just finished a game where I called Shoshin (who was scum) obviously scum from 2 pages into the game, townies got mad at me for being "anti-town" for pushing her lynch so I got off and lynched the other scum, then she endgamed.

For most townies, yes. But this lobby is filled with people with strong personalities and strong opinions of their towngames who will play their own game instead of listening to me, and those kinds of people are very dangerous to my winrate.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: LE
I've reconvinced myself

[RCEnigma]

For 1 there's no way T and E is a vig target so even if there are multiple night 1 kills T and E being the scum nk and like a vig on an on wagon voter (dunno why but hypothetical) 2 votes away from LE.

On the other hand HH can potentially clear LE and bit resolves his own slot. T and E dying doesn't detract from the LE wagon if there's a roleblocker or HH is lying.

[Tana and Ephraim]

Gamma why do you keep talking about how scummy LE is but you don't vote her?

funny

[popsofctown]

Generally no but RC is a different case.

Nah. MJL voted against the recommendation he left behind in the Old Newbies game. And I think RC has been referencing some game with an obvscum Shoshin that was never deadsheeped for a lynch so he lost

[Lady Eventide]

Generally no but RC is a different case.

If Dendrek can NK Apoc at f5 and go on to win, nobody is immune to being ignored.

[RCEnigma]

I just finished a game where I called Shoshin (who was scum) obviously scum from 2 pages into the game, townies got mad at me for being "anti-town" for pushing her lynch so I got off and lynched the other scum, then she endgamed.

For most townies, yes. But this lobby is filled with people with strong personalities and strong opinions of their towngames who will play their own game instead of listening to me, and those kinds of people are very dangerous to my winrate.

Yeah I read that game but Shoshin is a different player with a different reputation for strong townplay which holds weight.