Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[Menalque]

Okay, so if he's town, he did that fakeclaim gambit bullshit to find scum, right?

Why was he looking at the people sceptical of his claim?

Walk me through what you’re saying here? I’m tired and I can’t be bothered to joint ISO the two of you to see how he got to a SR on you originally

[eth0s]

honestly as much as I wish I could call jjh scum here for how narrow minded his play was today I would consider EP, elements, TD, and TL as having higher scum equity so far.

[Menalque]

Oh, I missed the ninja

[eth0s]

like it's actually fucking sad but I think this is just shit townplay from jjh. I've seen this style many times and it usually turns out to be town in my experience

[jjh927]

Relevant Korina quotes:

Alright fine, I’ll admit it then. I lied about flagbearer. I used it to try to flush out scum. It worked. jjh took the bait so hard, it’s not even funny.

Yea, my masterplan as town was to gambit out scum by claiming flagbearer. People will react to that, and I get to discern whether it's town or scum reacting.

I'm looking at how you interacted with my claim. You went from distrusting me to trusting me on it. I don't see a townie doing that.
jjh and td instantly went against it, while mena and eth0s didn't really go against it.

[jjh927]

Ignore reasoning from before since that ~should~ be Korina's real thought process if he's town

[Menalque]

Okay, I think I can only sort that aspect of jjh from ISO digging so let’s all talk TD

I don’t really see it? Idk. Elements I can see, EP is way off his towngsme and I’d be happy to lynch there. TL is very scummy but could just be mislynch bait so I need to think about it more to actually sort him. I just don’t see what you, kori and possible town!jjh are seeing?

[Elbirn]

like it's actually fucking sad but I think this is just shit townplay from jjh. I've seen this style many times and it usually turns out to be town in my experience

No one else in this game aside from JJH is even making sense and I'm going to shamelessly buddy the shit out of him he did nothing wrong

[jjh927]

His reasoning was functionally that people who perceived his fake claim to be a lie must be scum, and people who believed it must be town, and furthermore that someone who disbelieved it but later comes to partially believe it is more likely to be scum than town

[Elbirn]

I just wanna note really quick that targeting me doesn't work don't do it. I already shared this fact with elements and I ~dont townread him~ so if scum already knows now you all get to know

K back to whatever mena/jj are doing

Dont want this page-bottomed

[jjh927]

My TL scumread does mostly hinge on Korina!scum fwiw

[jjh927]

His reasoning was functionally that people who perceived his fake claim to be a lie must be scum, and people who believed it must be town, and furthermore that someone who disbelieved it but later comes to partially believe it is more likely to be scum than town

But yeah to return to this:

If Korina was actually looking at the reasoning, and not the judgments of whether or not people were effectively scumreading Korina, then the reads would be completely reversed.

[Menalque]

His reasoning was functionally that people who perceived his fake claim to be a lie must be scum, and people who believed it must be town, and furthermore that someone who disbelieved it but later comes to partially believe it is more likely to be scum than town

Idk if this is true, but i can’t remember/be bothered to try and remember/figure out what I thought he was saying so let’s talk about the others for now

E.g. TD. Can someone talk me through TD!scum?

NB: that someone should under no circumstances be TL

[jjh927]

It is true. You can tell by reading the relevant quotes that I quoted.

I don't think TD is scum

[Menalque]

like it's actually fucking sad but I think this is just shit townplay from jjh. I've seen this style many times and it usually turns out to be town in my experience

No one else in this game aside from JJH is even making sense and I'm going to shamelessly buddy the shit out of him he did nothing wrong

Hmm. Town points for thinking I don’t make sense — that’s normal, you’ll see it more clearly when I’m not on my phone probably. Don’t like that you think jjh did nothing wrong.

[Menalque]

It is true. You can tell by reading the relevant quotes that I quoted.

I don't think TD is scum

Okay, so on kori!green where is the scum?

My bet is elements, EP, TL/you as it stands


Yes, this interaction has made me TR you slightly more than guaranteed lynch for tomorrow.

[jjh927]

You're still basing shit on the idea that Korina is flipping town, Menalque

And you still haven't shown me what you'd have done to defend Korina if you'd shown up before the lynch

[jjh927]

Korina townflip would make me reevaluate a lot. I don't think I can get into that mindset rn, except that you turning up right after the lynch has gone through and acting as though Korina is flipping town is making me think you are scum in that world.

[Elbirn]

like it's actually fucking sad but I think this is just shit townplay from jjh. I've seen this style many times and it usually turns out to be town in my experience

No one else in this game aside from JJH is even making sense and I'm going to shamelessly buddy the shit out of him he did nothing wrong

Hmm. Town points for thinking I don’t make sense — that’s normal, you’ll see it more clearly when I’m not on my phone probably. Don’t like that you think jjh did nothing wrong.

The only thing about jjh that could give me pause is the *confidence* with which he seemed to go about this. But he's been clear cut logical to me whereas korina pre-self vote was uh.....just really something special.

If you can dumb down for me like I am a child what makes JJ scummy I'll listen but I think we'll be doing that tomorrow

[jjh927]

Like, from my perspective, you turned up with a very vague idea of the situation, blamed me entirely for pushing through the lynch early, and called me scum without evaluating my arguments on scum!Korina at all

[mastina]

VOTE: EP

I didn't know that Errant still played mafia, and in this game of all games no less!

Alas, I am not Errant.

Joke.


Head.

[mastina]

Hi I am a mason with…
…Hmm, who do I claim…
First name I see is…
…

…Hi, I am a mason with Adorable.
VOTE: Elements

Why are you claiming mason this early?

Because I thought it'd be

cute

.

[jjh927]

Oh hi mastina

[jjh927]

Korina self hammered

[mastina]

I mean, I got exactly what I was thinking I'd get by submitting it, so... if I can predict it ahead of time, then odds are others can too.
Plus, I actually regret submitting it because my role genuinely sucks, but dying is somehow even worse.

I also got exactly what I thought would be the role for my item; the only surprise to be had is that I got the role based off of my third pick rather than first or second.

But yeah, I literally can't think of any other possible role for my third pick other than exactly what I received.