Mini Normal 2101 - Electronic Music Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Azuresky]

Good lord I might vote azure just to not have her around anymore lol. God scum that refuses to claim as town on D1 because they think everyone is stupid.

I pitied you because I thought you had anger issues. You just think you're better than most ppl here and throw tantrums because of it. Go figure.

Bro Im not saying that. Im an alt. Fuck.

Im just informing you that players do do it.

I skimmed the game and I liked robbs push. Mainly because I didn't see anything that looked town from you azure.

So in that case, what are the odds Nom is my buddy?

You realize I'm pushing nom on the premise that you're town correct?

Which doesnt make sense to me because Nom is thinking the way that I am.

Also if you think Nom is scum and Im not, that has to mean the wagon is scum-driven, right?

[Fallsoul]

I can't remember anything about fallsoul.

That's new though. I'll try "I'm too good for you to catch me as scum" next time someone pushes me.

Would you mind taking a look at his posts? My point is that Fallsoul is a new player that appears to not follow the game correctly, and a player like this ending on Azure's wagon is a very bad sign.

What exactly do you mean by this being a bad sign? That I'm a town and I easily put my trust in others' arguments and I just voted Azure? If that's not the case would you explain what you meant by that? And if you believe I'm a town why would you even vote me?

[nomnomnom]

I can't remember anything about fallsoul.

That's new though. I'll try "I'm too good for you to catch me as scum" next time someone pushes me.

Would you mind taking a look at his posts? My point is that Fallsoul is a new player that appears to not follow the game correctly, and a player like this ending on Azure's wagon is a very bad sign.

What exactly do you mean by this being a bad sign? That I'm a town and I easily put my trust in others' arguments and I just voted Azure? If that's not the case would you explain what you meant by that? And if you believe I'm a town why would you even vote me?

I never said you were town?
I said that your posts show you don't follow the game, which is indicative of a scum trying to appear town especially for a new player.

[Tchill13]

You're an Alt and you, still "act" like this after experience lol... Wagons doesn't haaaaave to be scum driven. I've seen all town d1 wagons before.

If you want to attack me for pushing nom go right ahead.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: azuresky

I thought they were a newb which is part of the reason I town read them.

[Vorkuta]

Is there a universe in which this shitfest subsides anytime soon and we can all get along better?
Because I can't read anyone right now, and I don't want to dig deeper in these interactions

[Fallsoul]

I can't remember anything about fallsoul.

That's new though. I'll try "I'm too good for you to catch me as scum" next time someone pushes me.

Would you mind taking a look at his posts? My point is that Fallsoul is a new player that appears to not follow the game correctly, and a player like this ending on Azure's wagon is a very bad sign.

What exactly do you mean by this being a bad sign? That I'm a town and I easily put my trust in others' arguments and I just voted Azure? If that's not the case would you explain what you meant by that? And if you believe I'm a town why would you even vote me?

I never said you were town?
I said that your posts show you don't follow the game, which is indicative of a scum trying to appear town especially for a new player.

So if I'm scum and not following the game then do you mean that I'm just voting based on whoever my scum partners vote for?

[nomnomnom]

So if I'm scum and not following the game then do you mean that I'm just voting based on whoever my scum partners vote for?

I'd say more accurate would be that you vote Azure for being the more popular wagon and it's easy to justify a vote there.

[Robbnva]

Maybe that's me having a bias for experience but a player having more mafia experience knows how to appear more town over time and to make sure they're not the center of attention. That or it's a subversion of that idea and people come to expect it out of them. But they're an alt that no one knows, so it cannot be possibly a subversion, just a natural state of being.

So basically too scummy to be scum?

What if he’s an alt and knows that people tend to town read people who act like that and that was his goal?

[nomnomnom]

Maybe that's me having a bias for experience but a player having more mafia experience knows how to appear more town over time and to make sure they're not the center of attention. That or it's a subversion of that idea and people come to expect it out of them. But they're an alt that no one knows, so it cannot be possibly a subversion, just a natural state of being.

So basically too scummy to be scum?

What if he’s an alt and knows that people tend to town read people who act like that and that was his goal?

I guess?

Also that kind of tactic makes infinitely more sense on a main account, not a new alt nobody knows

[Fallsoul]

I voted for Azure because I bought others arguments against them nom. Me voting that way makes me look scummy but Robb and Luca tunneling on Azure and being so adamant about it doesn't seem scummy to you?

[Fallsoul]

I mean, it's easy to justify but do you have anything more than that for voting me?

[Robbnva]

I've made the mistake of eternally casing someone in guns and roses 2 for being a bad townie and making contradicting statements and in general pushing the game in a deadly direction, and that lead to scums being able to just lay low and let the game come to its conclusion, and given the weird confusing statements that indicate some people are not following the game and take this opportunity to vote Azure? I think there is a high possibility that Azure is mislynch bait.

I make that mistake also but how can you look past it? Somebody who screams scum, can’t be written off as town. At least I don’t know how to do that. But if I was somehow able to, the people trying to leverage that to their advantage look bad. Sort of like what you’re doing

[Robbnva]

If azure is lynched and flips green nomnom looks better.

Why? I think he would look worse.

[Robbnva]

Claiming does nothing.

Robb is going to vote me no matter what.

You really should stop making assumptions

[Robbnva]

Would you mind taking a look at his posts? My point is that Fallsoul is a new player that appears to not follow the game correctly, and a player like this ending on Azure's wagon is a very bad sign.

Why? Newer players tend to follow the crowd. It’s rare to see a new player confident enough to lead.

[Robbnva]

Is there a universe in which this shitfest subsides anytime soon and we can all get along better?
Because I can't read anyone right now, and I don't want to dig deeper in these interactions

Where do you think we should be directing our attention? Didn’t you give intent earlier? So you think he could be scum but also want us to move past it?

Maybe I’m misunderstanding something. Explain please.

[nomnomnom]

Would you mind taking a look at his posts? My point is that Fallsoul is a new player that appears to not follow the game correctly, and a player like this ending on Azure's wagon is a very bad sign.

Why? Newer players tend to follow the crowd. It’s rare to see a new player confident enough to lead.

Again, I would like to underline the fact that he does not follow the game correctly and therefore makes weird comments, rather than following the group.

[Robbnva]

Again, I would like to underline the fact that he does not follow the game correctly and therefore makes weird comments, rather than following the group.

Do you honestly think scum would do that? Scum need to make sure they are paying attention imo. You’d have to think he’s pretending and idk how you prove that.

[nomnomnom]

Again, I would like to underline the fact that he does not follow the game correctly and therefore makes weird comments, rather than following the group.

Do you honestly think scum would do that? Scum need to make sure they are paying attention imo. You’d have to think he’s pretending and idk how you prove that.

I've seen inexperienced scum do that mistake before (I referenced a player as well, bob3141 in a large that did this exact thing) so yes, I do think some players would do that just to appear like they're discussing.

[Tchill13]

Again, I would like to underline the fact that he does not follow the game correctly and therefore makes weird comments, rather than following the group.

Do you honestly think scum would do that? Scum need to make sure they are paying attention imo. You’d have to think he’s pretending and idk how you prove that.

Rob is town. This lines up with what I was thinking

[Robbnva]

I've seen inexperienced scum do that mistake before (I referenced a player as well, bob3141 in a large that did this exact thing) so yes, I do think some players would do that just to appear like they're discussing.

In mafia you have to play the odds. Low percentage means less likely. You really going to scum read somebody for doing something that probably rarely happens?

[Tchill13]

Nomnom is yet to make a good point this game imo.

[nomnomnom]

I personally think I made great points that you don't agree with, rather than no great points at all.

[Azuresky]

VOTE: Azuresky

You got me. I cant believe it.

My scumgame is figured out. Unreal.