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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:01 pm

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In post 693, skitter30 wrote:and usually the most townread person there holds hammer, and in my experience, that often tends to me (it wasn't me like .... twice i want to say? ever?) esp because i take forever to vote in lylo and usually other people vote before me and so i get conftowned by default
Doesn't that assume that neither of the other two vote for you?
You're saying that in most situations when you're in LyLo, the other two vote for each other?
You some kind of fucking mind controller?
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:03 pm

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Give some reasons for your scumread of me other than being wrong about the previous two lynches.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:04 pm

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In post 700, Hectic wrote:You're saying that in most situations when you're in LyLo, the other two vote for each other?
yep

i've been voted in 3way exactly twice, and i was vla both times it happens (and the last time was like .... a year and a half ago)

i'm really fucking hard to mislynch, and i dont' lose lylos when i'm around and can argue things because i'm *good* at making myself obvtown

when i'm scum that's an entirely different story

also i take forever to vote and tend to rearead the whole game so usually people make up their mind well before i do
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:06 pm

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i mean the fact that your pushes have been awful is a preetty central part to the read
and i'm pretty sure aaron is town like i've said so ...
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:06 pm

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In post 702, skitter30 wrote:
In post 700, Hectic wrote:You're saying that in most situations when you're in LyLo, the other two vote for each other?
yep

i've been voted in 3way exactly twice, and i was vla both times it happens (and the last time was like .... a year and a half ago)

i'm really fucking hard to mislynch, and i dont' lose lylos when i'm around and can argue things because i'm *good* at making myself obvtown

when i'm scum that's an entirely different story

also i take forever to vote and tend to rearead the whole game so usually people make up their mind well before i do
Fucking hell.
Well, I'm looking forward to this then.

How would you be playing differently as scum right now?
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:07 pm

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uh i wouldn't be posting in real time like this

i can't as scum, i tend to be very methodolical and over think things way too much, i get nervous posting in real time

like this convo wouldn't be happening if i were scum
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:08 pm

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In post 704, Hectic wrote:Fucking hell.
Well, I'm looking forward to this then.
yep
idk why scum let me get this far, it usually doesn't end well for them
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:08 pm

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In post 693, skitter30 wrote:at that point both of you were townreading and i've been in enough p similar endagames to know how they usually play out - if we lynch right today the town in {spam/tchill} dies, and tomorrow it'll be you/me/hecitic

and usually the most townread person there holds hammer, and in my experience, that often tends to me (it wasn't me like .... twice i want to say? ever?) esp because i take forever to vote in lylo and usually other people vote before me and so i get conftowned by default

and so if we get it right today i wanted to be proactive about starting on trying to figure out tomorrow
Wouldn't this be objectively not true though? You've been hard townreading me since early in Day 1, so from your point of view, 9/10 times you're gonna vote for Hectic here.

This also implies that the exact scenario you mentioned is going to play out the same way here (me and Hectic voting each other with you being the deciding vote).
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:09 pm

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In post 703, skitter30 wrote:i mean the fact that your pushes have been awful is a preetty central part to the read
and i'm pretty sure aaron is town like i've said so ...
Didn't you fucking agree with the Elements one?
And yeah, the Reaper one was shit, but I didn't want to lynch him at the time Azure hammered.
Despite my tone, I wasn't sure about him whatsoever and was pushing him to try and solve him.
Though his replacing out made me him a lot more fucking scummy.

So what are the non-central reasons of the read?
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:09 pm

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i know so i want to make sure i'm not missing anything about town!hectic, i like to do my due diligence before i vote
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:11 pm

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In post 708, Hectic wrote:
In post 703, skitter30 wrote:i mean the fact that your pushes have been awful is a preetty central part to the read
and i'm pretty sure aaron is town like i've said so ...
Didn't you fucking agree with the Elements one?
And yeah, the Reaper one was shit, but I didn't want to lynch him at the time Azure hammered.
Despite my tone, I wasn't sure about him whatsoever and was pushing him to try and solve him.
Though his replacing out made me him a lot more fucking scummy.

So what are the non-central reasons of the read?
bad tone, overconfidence, dislike your reaction to the cc

be back in a few min; i'm cooking rn
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 705, skitter30 wrote:uh i wouldn't be posting in real time like this

i can't as scum, i tend to be very methodolical and over think things way too much, i get nervous posting in real time

like this convo wouldn't be happening if i were scum
Interesting. Link your most recent scum game for me?
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:13 pm

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=80641
finished friday ^
was in 3way lylo
notice how i completely froze up
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:13 pm

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In post 710, skitter30 wrote:
In post 708, Hectic wrote:
In post 703, skitter30 wrote:i mean the fact that your pushes have been awful is a preetty central part to the read
and i'm pretty sure aaron is town like i've said so ...
Didn't you fucking agree with the Elements one?
And yeah, the Reaper one was shit, but I didn't want to lynch him at the time Azure hammered.
Despite my tone, I wasn't sure about him whatsoever and was pushing him to try and solve him.
Though his replacing out made me him a lot more fucking scummy.

So what are the non-central reasons of the read?
bad tone, overconfidence, dislike your reaction to the cc

be back in a few min; i'm cooking rn
What's wrong with my tone?
What about my reaction do you dislike?
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:14 pm

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spam was even in that one :facepalm:
idk how he can seriously think i'm scum here
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:15 pm

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Most people were on board with lynching Elements honestly.

I need to read through that game I played with Hectic in the Newbie queue. His tone feels different here than in that game I played with him where he was town.

skitter's meta seems consistent with her town play but a couple of the things she's said today have rubbed me the wrong way.

I'm still 50/50.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:15 pm

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In post 713, Hectic wrote:
In post 710, skitter30 wrote:
In post 708, Hectic wrote:
In post 703, skitter30 wrote:i mean the fact that your pushes have been awful is a preetty central part to the read
and i'm pretty sure aaron is town like i've said so ...
Didn't you fucking agree with the Elements one?
And yeah, the Reaper one was shit, but I didn't want to lynch him at the time Azure hammered.
Despite my tone, I wasn't sure about him whatsoever and was pushing him to try and solve him.
Though his replacing out made me him a lot more fucking scummy.

So what are the non-central reasons of the read?
bad tone, overconfidence, dislike your reaction to the cc

be back in a few min; i'm cooking rn
What's wrong with my tone?
What about my reaction do you dislike?
idk i'm bad at articulating why tone's bad, it just feels weird and wrong
it felt like you were hedging on spam/tchill
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:15 pm

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hey someone who's actually played with you agrees with me
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:16 pm

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*agrees with me on tone
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:19 pm

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Well, yeah, my tone's vastly different from that game, Aaron.
That's fucking intentional lol
Are you actually unsure about it being different?

Found some interesting stuff in that game, skitter. Link me the most recent one where you were town and got mislynched in LyLo.
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:22 pm

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=76365
^ may (june?) 2018, like two posting style changes ago

lylo started on the last day of finals week and i hadn't slept in a week and i said wait like i day so i can sleep after finals and they lynched me before i could do anything
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:22 pm

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You strike me as the kind of person who changes their playstyle from game to game on purpose to make yourself harder to read.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:23 pm

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In post 719, Hectic wrote:Well, yeah, my tone's vastly different from that game, Aaron.
That's fucking intentional lol
Are you actually unsure about it being different?

Found some interesting stuff in that game, skitter. Link me the most recent one where you were town and got mislynched in LyLo.
i mean ... so what i should be doing with teh fact that your tone is weird here ... ?

why is your tone different?

also i've been in like at least 8 or 9 lylos since that game i think (i haven't counted them out but like .... many)
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:23 pm

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In post 721, AaronFrost wrote:You strike me as the kind of person who changes their playstyle from game to game on purpose to make yourself harder to read.
this is not at all a thing i do
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:25 pm

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I've only been in one LyLo prior to this and I completely fucked it up and got myself mislynched on Day 4. So that was cool.

PEDIT: That was directed towards Hectic.
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