Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[EspressoPatronum]

@Mena what's your case on Elements?

[Menalque]

Why should anyone see that as town!indicative when you’re clearly self aware enough to avoid the appearance of concern of it?

I also think your whole set of posting is scum!indicative for you. What you know of me as scum is that I tunnel hard and fast. So why are you dealing with me like this is all in good faith? I think because you can’t separate the perspective of knowing I’m town from what you should be thinking if you were actually town.

I was gonna stay on elbirn to help eth0s pressure him but actually I think we just need to do you

VOTE: EP

[EspressoPatronum]

Why should anyone see that as town!indicative when you’re clearly self aware enough to avoid the appearance of concern of it?

I mean, you asked how I'm town this game and I told you. Did you want me to lie and say I thought I looked towny for BS reasons? That's not helpful at all.

I also think your whole set of posting is scum!indicative for you. What you know of me as scum is that I tunnel hard and fast. So why are you dealing with me like this is all in good faith? I think because you can’t separate the perspective of knowing I’m town from what you should be thinking if you were actually town.

Interesting. Expand on why you think my posting is scum indicative. You might be the only person left with an idea of my meta, so being vague isn't helping anyone.

Re your scum game - I also trust that you're self aware enough not to tunnel again. Assuming otherwise is just assuming you're unable to adapt your playstyle.

I was gonna stay on elbirn to help eth0s pressure him but actually I think we just need to do you

What's your read on eth0s btw?

VOTE: EP

RIP

[Menalque]

I asked you to provide justification for why people should TR you. You said "yeah, I have been scummy, but at least I'm not bothered by the fact I look scummy" as if that's actually a meaningful defence. It rings especially hollow given past experience with you: town!you is much more paranoid about people scumreading them being scum (see: EP v cinnamon in Pokemon ruby for anyone interested). Why would I not tunnel again? It's entirely plausible I'd do either, especially considering how far tunnelling got me last game. The fact that you're not even acting suspicious of me when town!you should be wondering if this might be in bad faith is you perspective slipping that you know I'm town pushing you. So instead of trying to push me back, you're trying to just sell me on town!you.

Other than that, your ISO is terrible. What have you done all game? You've done nothing. The whole ISO is filled with IIOA. You've asked a few empty questions to make it look like you're doing something, but otherwise your play has been completely devoid of substance. You asked Korina questions and then did nothing in terms of engaging with him re: the answers, you just voted him.

You have 30 posts and at best, one of them is game advancing. When you've been called on it, instead of actually scum hunting you've just made excuses. Now I'm very confident that that's newb!scum scum play because, surprise, that's exactly what I've done before and I've been caught for it too. Mastina literally caught me for the exact same thing in Can't Remember the Name of this Game, and so I can only assume she's SRing you now for the same reasons she SR me there.

Now you're trying to redirect away from yourself by getting the focus onto elements and eth0s.

[eth0s]

VOTE: Elbirn
He scumslipped in twilight. Thinking this could be scummates with mastina. fwiw I see him voting mastina there as an acknowledgement of his scumslip and it looks like they are trying to distance for damage control.

Are you talking about 695?

Yep

[Menalque]

VOTE: Elbirn
He scumslipped in twilight. Thinking this could be scummates with mastina. fwiw I see him voting mastina there as an acknowledgement of his scumslip and it looks like they are trying to distance for damage control.

Are you talking about 695?

Yes, he is. What do you think of that post?

I don't see the slip he's talking about.

Yet you were immediately able to identify the post that the slip may have occurred in if that's what it is?

[Menalque]

Hell of a lucky guess there, EP.

[Menalque]

sidebar: killing SoS was weird, no?

He wasn't doing much and wasn't particularly towny, so why kill there?

[TiphaineDeath]

One of Menalque/EP prob scum here, every time I unvote TL I hate myself though .

[Menalque]

One of Menalque/EP prob scum here, every time I unvote TL I hate myself though .

Yeah, that would be EP. Go and look at his ISO. Go look at mine. Come back. Vote for him.

[Menalque]

I want anyone who thinks EP has done things that are pro-town this game to stand up and tell me what they are now. If they can't do that, I want them to tell me what makes the person they want to lynch today scummier than him. And if they can't do either of those two things then I want their vote on EP.

[TemporalLich]

I want anyone who thinks EP has done things that are pro-town this game to stand up and tell me what they are now. If they can't do that, I want them to tell me what makes the person they want to lynch today scummier than him. And if they can't do either of those two things then I want their vote on EP.

Elbirn wants to powerlynch mastina for a terrible reason (see 619) and is almost seemingly deathtunneling her.

For the record, my read on Espresso is null-scum, don't see anything towny from an ISO read.

[eth0s]

I want anyone who thinks EP has done things that are pro-town this game to stand up and tell me what they are now. If they can't do that, I want them to tell me what makes the person they want to lynch today scummier than him. And if they can't do either of those two things then I want their vote on EP.

You already know my thought process due to our PT and although the pressure is basically bust I still like my vote right now.

[EspressoPatronum]

VOTE: Elbirn
He scumslipped in twilight. Thinking this could be scummates with mastina. fwiw I see him voting mastina there as an acknowledgement of his scumslip and it looks like they are trying to distance for damage control.

Are you talking about 695?

Yes, he is. What do you think of that post?

I don't see the slip he's talking about.

Yet you were immediately able to identify the post that the slip may have occurred in if that's what it is?

Hell of a lucky guess there, EP.

Ok, you're purposely being obtuse here. eth0s said it happened at twilight, which means end of day + the post was taking to mastina.

I stand by my stance that it doesn't look like a scumslip.

[EspressoPatronum]

Spoiler:

I asked you to provide justification for why people should TR you. You said "yeah, I have been scummy, but at least I'm not bothered by the fact I look scummy" as if that's actually a meaningful defence. It rings especially hollow given past experience with you: town!you is much more paranoid about people scumreading them being scum (see: EP v cinnamon in Pokemon ruby for anyone interested). Why would I not tunnel again? It's entirely plausible I'd do either, especially considering how far tunnelling got me last game. The fact that you're not even acting suspicious of me when town!you should be wondering if this might be in bad faith is you perspective slipping that you know I'm town pushing you. So instead of trying to push me back, you're trying to just sell me on town!you.

Other than that, your ISO is terrible. What have you done all game? You've done nothing. The whole ISO is filled with IIOA. You've asked a few empty questions to make it look like you're doing something, but otherwise your play has been completely devoid of substance. You asked Korina questions and then did nothing in terms of engaging with him re: the answers, you just voted him.

You have 30 posts and at best, one of them is game advancing. When you've been called on it, instead of actually scum hunting you've just made excuses. Now I'm very confident that that's newb!scum scum play because, surprise, that's exactly what I've done before and I've been caught for it too. Mastina literally caught me for the exact same thing in Can't Remember the Name of this Game, and so I can only assume she's SRing you now for the same reasons she SR me there.

Now you're trying to redirect away from yourself by getting the focus onto elements and eth0s.

I'm engaging with you while also asking about your reads. Calling that redirection is disingenuous.

The fact that you would rather attack than explain your read on eth0s or Elements is also concerning.

[EspressoPatronum]

@Mena I also asked for your Elements case before you dropped your EP!case, so that's another point in favour of a disingenuous accusation.

[eth0s]

Who did espresso have a neighborhood with again

[TiphaineDeath]

Me, also I am low on caring right now. VOTE: EP

[eth0s]

Me, also I am low on caring right now. VOTE: EP

Oh...

[eth0s]

Can you at least tell me why you think EP vs Mena is t/s because I am probably biased from my neighborhood but I don't understand how mena can be scum based on their interactions. If you're talking about his wagon hopping he told me in our PT he was only going to vote Elbirn for a bit to help me pressure him. And honestly I'm kind of upset he jumped ship so fast but I don't really blame him or see it as a scummy move.

[eth0s]

for the record I think I am looking at {Elbirn, EP, Elements} for a lynch today. So far I'm really not impressed with TD and would potentially compromise on that depending on whether he actually starts playing the game or not.

[Adorable]

Night 1 these were pretty much my reads and thoughts when I was talking in the pt with Mastina.


On day 1 I did not like the way how Son of Shepherd and Elements played and I think one of them is scum. I'll have to take a look at them again. I'm a little bit suspicious of Elbirn and I did not like how he has been agreeing with jjh and it's like he might actually be scum who is buddying with jjh to get on his good side.

I am now null on Menalque because he scum reads jjh and then all of a sudden he says maybe jjh could be town. Menalque's play either he is town who has been scum reading jjh for pushing Korina or he is scum who says maybe jjh is town and he didn't want to get on jjh bad side.

ethos seems to be playing like his town meta. ethos saying he wanted to keep Korina alive and have him get invested by a cop looked like it was coming from a town player's point of view. jjh and TD are aggressive and scum hunting but I'm still going to keep an eye on them because they have been pushing on the wrong players. TL has been flip flopping alot and this is my second game playing with TL. My first game I played with TL, he was town and he was flip flopping alot on day 1 to the point when everyone was scum reading him for that. I think TL could be town since his play on day 1 reminded me of my first game I played with him. I'll have to iso TL again.

Espresso is null and I couldn't get a read on him.

[eth0s]

On day 1 I did not like the way how Son of Shepherd and Elements played and I think one of them is scum. I'll have to take a look at them again.

I have some news for you

[Elbirn]

I want anyone who thinks EP has done things that are pro-town this game to stand up and tell me what they are now. If they can't do that, I want them to tell me what makes the person they want to lynch today scummier than him. And if they can't do either of those two things then I want their vote on EP.

VOTE: EP

[schadd_]

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