You kind of did say this. You said he'd never flip scum iirc.In post 6573, Pink Ball wrote:I'm not saying he wouldn't do it
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I was feeling very confident about the game with Lexiscum until I mislynched DGB. Probably need to re-evaluate my reads this game.In post 5993, Firebringer wrote:kats do u no longer scumread mastina? U were yelling yesterday to lynch mastina as well.
My issue with mastina is similar to DGB, in that logically they appear to be scum, but I never got strong gut scumreads from either of them. Both are players whom I've traditionally read with ease, but with this being the first game I've ever misread DGB in over 9 years, I don't know what I'm going to get with Mastina.
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In post 4088, Pink Ball wrote:Dann I fucking love you please don't be scum ok
@SS I don't remember saying Dann would never flip scum, maybe you got me mixed up with someone else? I said his reaction could be NAI, but I'm townreading him for it, but the posts above show that I haven't been THAT hyperbolic with my read on him.In post 4092, Pink Ball wrote:
I agree you unfaithful shit you promised me a dance AND you OWE me that and I'm not dancing with you if you're scumIn post 4089, Dannflor wrote:that would not be very cash money
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Maybe I misinterpreted your confidence level but this seemed pretty confident.In post 3142, Pink Ball wrote:Firebringer
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Yeah, there was.
Understood. I probably did cross wires between that post and mastina's, which actually did say that Dancefloor never flips scum. Awaiting that explanation.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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What about it? Ali had very, very explicitly said that no-one should ask for the governor fruit what, like a page before this?In post 6560, Something_Smart wrote:
Menalque this is a good example of what I was talking about.In post 5486, Menalque wrote:So FB and SS are both scum, cool
Where was the town motivation to grab the fruit there, either of you go ahead and try to explain that to me?
Given that Ali was, at the time, the only person who was conf!town to me, it seems odd to then go against her wishes before we discussed it as a group. I think maybe you're reading the tone here as odd, but I think I very often post things that are overconfident in terms of reads in the heat the heat of the moment when I'm reacting to something.
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Yeah, it's absolutely odd!In post 6583, Menalque wrote:it seems odd to then go against her wishes before we discussed it as a group.
But it's equally odd as town or scum. Calling it scummy is level zero thinking. I don't know if that's a scumtell but it's sure annoying.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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That said, I can understand you saying something you didn't mean because you were frustrated. You literally called me out on doing exactly that last night. But it was annoying to have Fire's troll bargain lumped in with my carefully calculated plan-- although part of the plan was concealing the fact that it was carefully calculated, so I suppose maybe I was just being petulant.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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Being overtly anti-town is not scummy, except in cases where you're clearly acting with no regard to the town wincon. Both town and scum are well aware of how such an action will be perceived and choosing it anyway weighs out the superficial harm it brings to town.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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In post 6583, Menalque wrote:bargain for fruit without Ali's approval, but everyone seems to be shitting all over that so it can't uniquely be scum doing it.
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I asked Jingle a couple of times if after Ari's flip he would get it back.In post 6590, Something_Smart wrote:Did we ever get an answer as to how long Pine owns his vote for?
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He answered that with no, I think.
But I pointed out earlier that Pine had a wording that implied it would last until Fire used the governor.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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What's your opinion on the worst?In post 6589, Pink Ball wrote:I don't. Fireb is townShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In post 6587, Something_Smart wrote:Being overtly anti-town is not scummy, except in cases where you're clearly acting with no regard to the town wincon. Both town and scum are well aware of how such an action will be perceived and choosing it anyway weighs out the superficial harm it brings to town.
Only I think that because of the WIFOM involved in "too scummy to be scum" scum totally can be down to just do it anyway and try to get by off that. And I think that governor is something scum would particularly want to have because it lets them dictate a lynch potentially.In post 6588, Something_Smart wrote:It's kind of a pointless argument, though. I certainly believe that you believed it was scummy. Many people do.
I would lean towards saying that if someone is playing openly anti-town you should just lynch them hard and early every game that they do that in. I see no reason to let someone actively work towards the other team's wincon stay in the game. If you like socialising with them, cool, there are spaces where they can express their personality outside of games in other places in the forum. I think playing like that in game should be punished because it's actively fucking things up for everyone else.
Incidentally, this is the same reason that I think that lolhammers on town should nearly always be lynched the next day. If you don't do it, then scum can get away with doing it because it becomes something to just be shrugged off/tolerated.
In fact, I don't really love that fb has had as much of a pass on this as he's had, the more I think about it. If he's scum, would he potentially not make a deal on the fruit, hide behind the too scummy to be scum/oh that's just fb logic, and then put forward a bunch of town that would be lynchable, knowing that we couldn't lynch him until lylo anyway, and trusting in his ability to stir up paranoia about us losing the game if he's lynched in lylo to try and spin it elsewhere.- Menalque
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What's your opinion on the worst?In post 6589, Pink Ball wrote:I don't. Fireb is town"Your intentions are not defined by how things went, but how things could've gone." (Ball, 2019)- Something_Smart
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We don't know if it was anti-town. In all likelihood, it didn't matter.In post 6597, Menalque wrote:I will say that the deal that PP has made with pine is one of the best things to happen to this thread in spite of it being anti-town though.
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