Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

schadd_ · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:47 am

VC 1.1

EspressoPatronum (3):

Menalque, TiphaineDeath, Elbirn

Elbirn (2):

TemporalLich, eth0s

Elements (2):

mastina, Adorable

TiphaineDeath (1):

jjh927

Not voting: Elements, EspressoPatronum, momo

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-10-06 17:40:00) or when a lynch is reached.

TiphaineDeath · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:58 am

755-757 by Mena tell me that if EP=town there is a high chance Mena=scum, and bussing is very unlikely in this scenario so EP=scum makes mena-town

Elbirn · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:59 am

In post 755, Menalque wrote:
In post 749, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 747, Menalque wrote:
In post 746, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 729, eth0s wrote:VOTE: Elbirn
He scumslipped in twilight. Thinking this could be scummates with mastina. fwiw I see him voting mastina there as an acknowledgement of his scumslip and it looks like they are trying to distance for damage control.
Are you talking about 695?
Yes, he is. What do you think of that post?
I don't see the slip he's talking about.
Yet you were immediately able to identify the post that the slip may have occurred in if that's what it is?

In post 756, Menalque wrote:Hell of a lucky guess there, EP.

I don't understand how not knowing momo was in the game could be considered a slip

EP's behavior here though is wishywashy weird shit

In post 757, Menalque wrote:sidebar: killing SoS was weird, no?

He wasn't doing much and wasn't particularly towny, so why kill there?

Anyone scumreading me needs their head checked if only for the sole reason that I would have happily shitposted all game with the living ed edd and eddy reference if scum

schadd_ · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:09 am

replacing momo

eth0s · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:36 am

In post 777, Elbirn wrote:I don't understand how not knowing momo was in the game could be considered a slip

No. It's like you knew that Korina was going to flip town. If you had any reason to think Korina might not flip red then why would you think that getting a "conftown" was a good trade off for Korina's death?

Also the reasoning by Mastina for momo being conftown is laughable and especially ironic when coming from Mastina who was able to post nothing for 75+ hours and never prodded (at least to the rest of the game's knowledge).

So to a lesser degree it also feels like you took that "conftown" at face value much more than any town should.

eth0s · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:41 am

I thought you were on the Korina wagon which made all of this feel even sketchier to me. When I noticed you weren't, I realized maybe it wasn't as solid a scumslip as I thought. But this

In post 440, Elbirn wrote:
In post 373, Korina wrote:Alright fine, I’ll admit it then. I lied about flagbearer. I used it to try to flush out scum. It worked. jjh took the bait so hard, it’s not even funny.
What is Korina at, votewise?

set off some alarms when I noticed it after revisiting your iso. It's like you were considering voting for him but then after the hammer with

In post 509, Elbirn wrote:
In post 480, Korina wrote:Also, here's a list of games where I played poorly. Compare them to this game, and tell me if you notice any major differences between them, (apart from the obvious flagbearer claim)
1, 2, 3

In post 485, Korina wrote:Y'know what? Fine.
VOTE: Korina

I'm town.
Big brain idea here, check it:

Maybe instead of playing like actual dog shit and saying it's just how you play

You could be better

You suddenly "realize" Korina was town hammering himself and seemed to end up there without ever explaining the change of heart.

Elbirn · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:57 am

Yes, when korina hammered himself and said he was town I took him at his word because he is not the first nor the last village idiot to do shit like that. Not to mention that he continued to babble nonsense in thread for another 24 hours and I don't think scum does that.

If I'm scum why do I REEEE at dead town for being detrimental to the town faction when I could have done what any smart scum does and stop posting for the day?

eth0s · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:07 pm

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:08 pm

Should I be claiming here? It's a bit hard to gauge how serious the push is.

@eth0s you're going to be vital in me proving my claim btw. You probably know why.

Elbirn · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:09 pm

In post 783, EspressoPatronum wrote:Should I be claiming here? It's a bit hard to gauge how serious the push is.

@eth0s you're going to be vital in me proving my claim btw. You probably know why.

You shouldn't claim unless you're at L-1 and someone has intent to hammer

Ancient wisdoms fren

eth0s · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:15 pm

In post 783, EspressoPatronum wrote:Should I be claiming here?

ffs. Can you just put some effort into the game instead of jumping straight into a claim when you haven't given people a reason to like you

TemporalLich · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:37 pm

In post 781, Elbirn wrote:Yes, when korina hammered himself and said he was town I took him at his word because he is not the first nor the last village idiot to do shit like that. Not to mention that he continued to babble nonsense in thread for another 24 hours and I don't think scum does that.

If I'm scum why do I REEEE at dead town for being detrimental to the town faction when I could have done what any smart scum does and stop posting for the day?

alright I believe you could be town.

VOTE: EspressoPatronum

Espresso is starting to seem scummy especially in 763

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:40 pm

In post 786, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 781, Elbirn wrote:Yes, when korina hammered himself and said he was town I took him at his word because he is not the first nor the last village idiot to do shit like that. Not to mention that he continued to babble nonsense in thread for another 24 hours and I don't think scum does that.

If I'm scum why do I REEEE at dead town for being detrimental to the town faction when I could have done what any smart scum does and stop posting for the day?
alright I believe you could be town.

VOTE: EspressoPatronum

Espresso is starting to seem scummy especially in 763

Explain exactly why you think it's scummy. It looks like you're just an opportunist hopping on my wagon.

TemporalLich · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:44 pm

In post 787, EspressoPatronum wrote:Explain exactly why you think it's scummy. It looks like you're just an opportunist hopping on my wagon.

It seems like you're throwing shade at Menalque and I have a feeling you're hard defending Elbirn with a fake reason despite 695 obviously not being a scumslip.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:50 pm

In post 785, eth0s wrote:
In post 783, EspressoPatronum wrote:Should I be claiming here?
ffs. Can you just put some effort into the game instead of jumping straight into a claim when you haven't given people a reason to like you

Point taken.

Ok here's what I've got. I admittedly haven't been as obvtown as I normally am, but if you look at my ISO, you'll see natural progressions on reads + a good faith effort to sort the Korina fiasco.

If you look at TL, on the other hand, you see inconsistent reasons for voting Korina. At one point he votes for jjh saying a flub=/= scum claim, but then he later says the flub makes Korina look like he was flailing.

Then when you add in the fact that TL just hopped on my bandwagon and has deflected my most recent question, you have yourself a strong case on TL trying to set up mislynches.

VOTE: TL

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:50 pm

In post 788, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 787, EspressoPatronum wrote:Explain exactly why you think it's scummy. It looks like you're just an opportunist hopping on my wagon.
It seems like you're throwing shade at Menalque and I have a feeling you're hard defending Elbirn with a fake reason despite 695 obviously not being a scumslip.

Answer my question plz.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:51 pm

re defending Elbirn - even eth0s seems to have backed off of Elbirn. He has a plausible reason for killing Korina... but you don't.

TemporalLich · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:52 pm

In post 790, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 788, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 787, EspressoPatronum wrote:Explain exactly why you think it's scummy. It looks like you're just an opportunist hopping on my wagon.
It seems like you're throwing shade at Menalque and I have a feeling you're hard defending Elbirn with a fake reason despite 695 obviously not being a scumslip.
Answer my question plz.

You can't just tell me to answer the question again just because you don't like my response.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:55 pm

[spoilerTL is scum=]

In post 334, TemporalLich wrote:"Korina flubbed his role claim" does not equal "Korina is confirmed scum"

Even then powerlynching Korina is a bad move, and I wouldn't be surprised you're scum jjh....

VOTE: jjh927

TL votes jjh because jjh is pushing the flubbed = scum story and TL doesn't like it.

In post 341, TemporalLich wrote:just in case Korina is a scum who flagbears
town
(which would be really overpowered lol)

Positioning for a potential swing onto Korina if the wagon picks up

In post 448, TemporalLich wrote:I will refrain from scumreading Korina as Korina is effectively V/LA today

Delaying the scumread. Waiting to see if Korina is a secure mislynch.

In post 454, TemporalLich wrote:but the gambit combined with the flub means Korina is openwolfing...

Intent to vote Korina

Hmm, he JUST said that he hated the flub. Now it's suddenly enough to warrant the vote?

In post 483, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: Korina

L-1

Korina I think you're flailing at this point.

Gets on the wagon early enough not to hammer, but late enough that he's almost certain Korina is going to die anyway.
[/spoiler]

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:56 pm

Welp, I messed up the spoiler tag. Ah well.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:58 pm

In post 792, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 790, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 788, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 787, EspressoPatronum wrote:Explain exactly why you think it's scummy. It looks like you're just an opportunist hopping on my wagon.
It seems like you're throwing shade at Menalque and I have a feeling you're hard defending Elbirn with a fake reason despite 695 obviously not being a scumslip.
Answer my question plz.
You can't just tell me to answer the question again just because you don't like my response.

I want you to comment on the reasoning I used in my post, not just deflect it by saying I'm throwing shade at Mena. Of course I'm throwing shade at Mena in that post - I'm saying he's being obtuse!

Read over his reasoning and tell me why you think it flows. If it doesn't flow, then you have an even weaker basis to be on my wagon rn.

TemporalLich · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:00 pm

you somehow forgot in 454 that I said that the

gambit

is what turned it from an honest flub to a red flag.

pedit: no

TemporalLich · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:02 pm

Espresso, that's a really dishonest way to ask a question... by expecting me to have answered it already and calling me scum for not doing so.

Because of that, you will not get an answer.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:03 pm

In post 797, TemporalLich wrote:Espresso, that's a really dishonest way to ask a question... by expecting me to have answered it already and calling me scum for not doing so.

Because of that, you will not get an answer
.

Gaslighting and another non-answer. Nice.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:05 pm

In post 786, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 781, Elbirn wrote:Yes, when korina hammered himself and said he was town I took him at his word because he is not the first nor the last village idiot to do shit like that. Not to mention that he continued to babble nonsense in thread for another 24 hours and I don't think scum does that.

If I'm scum why do I REEEE at dead town for being detrimental to the town faction when I could have done what any smart scum does and stop posting for the day?
alright I believe you could be town.

VOTE: EspressoPatronum

Espresso is starting to seem scummy
especially in
763

This implies there's more than 763 that caused you to think I'm scum. What posts are they and why do you think they're scummy?