You had alsoIn post 788, TemporalLich wrote:It seems like you're throwing shade at Menalque and I have a feeling you're hard defending Elbirn with a fake reason despite 695 obviously not being a scumslip.In post 787, EspressoPatronum wrote:Explain exactly why you think it's scummy. It looks like you're just an opportunist hopping on my wagon.
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justsaid Elbirn could be town, but then you accused me of defending Elbirn. What?!- TemporalLich
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For the sake of answering this question I will ignore your scummy posts after the fact.In post 799, EspressoPatronum wrote:This implies there's more than 763 that caused you to think I'm scum. What posts are they and why do you think they're scummy?
783 doesn't gel with me as it seems you're trying to prematurely claim.
764 feels like a reaction instead of a case.
748 is trying to self-meta.
pedit: I said you were defending Elbirn with a fake reason. As in I believe you're just trying to make Elbirn look towny instead of showing how Elbirn is towny.time will end- EspressoPatronum
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Do you think Elbirn made a scum slip in that post?In post 801, TemporalLich wrote:
pedit: I said you were defending Elbirn with a fake reason. As in I believe you're just trying to make Elbirn look towny instead of showing how Elbirn is towny.
If you don't think it's a scum slip, you have the exact same reason as me.
If you do think it was a scum slip, why do you think it was?- EspressoPatronum
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For the sake of answering this question I will ignore your scummy posts after the fact.In post 799, EspressoPatronum wrote:This implies there's more than 763 that caused you to think I'm scum. What posts are they and why do you think they're scummy?
783 doesn't gel with me as it seems you're trying to prematurely claim.
It doesn't SEEM like I'm trying to claim. I'm making very obvious I'm ready to claim if people want me to.
Even if you were right, how does a premature claim mean I'm scummy?
Because it764 feels like a reaction instead of a case.isa reaction, not a case. Why is that scummy?
Mena already said I'm meta-aware, and that's coming from games in which I was town. What about me self-metaing is scummy?748 is trying to self-meta.- EspressoPatronum
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I think by "despite 695 obviously not being a scumslip" you should know that I don't think that was a scumslip because it's uh heavily implied.
Premature claims can be seen as scum if you're trying to get others to claim especially. Otherwise it's a pretty bad move regardless of alignment.
The reaction seems a bit weak and I wouldn't consider it towny.
self-meta isn't towny, so it's NAI-scum at worst.time will end- EspressoPatronum
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So if you agree with my reasoning on it not being a scumslip, why are you attacking me by saying my reasoning was fake? You believe the same thing.In post 805, TemporalLich wrote:I think by "despite 695 obviously not being a scumslip" you should know that I don't think that was a scumslip because it's uh heavily implied.
But I'm not trying to get others to claim. What about my attempt at premature claiming is scummy? Would you agree that it's possible it was just a bad move and not actually scummy?Premature claims can be seen as scum if you're trying to get others to claim especially. Otherwise it's a pretty bad move regardless of alignment.
How so? Enough with the vague answers - be specific, please. Why was it 'a bit weak'?The reaction seems a bit weak and I wouldn't consider it towny.
But I've already told you (and so has Mena) that I self-meta at times as town, so this must be NAI for me. You're welcome to do your own digging - go ahead and check our my Ruby Mafia game. Pay special attention to D2 and D3, in addition to the neighbourhood thread.self-meta isn't towny, so it's NAI-scum at worst.
Btw, if you agree that this is NAI, your scum case on me is even weaker.- EspressoPatronum
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I want you to tell me how TL is townier than me.In post 760, Menalque wrote:I want anyone who thinks EP has done things that are pro-town this game to stand up and tell me what they are now. If they can't do that, I want them to tell me what makes the person they want to lynch today scummier than him. And if they can't do either of those two things then I want their vote on EP.
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okay I'm just gonna say this post is actually pretty scummy.In post 811, EspressoPatronum wrote:I want you to tell me how TL is townier than me.
Then I want you to vote TL.
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I am Mena's top scumread. If he can't show me why you're townier than me, that makes YOU his top scumread.In post 812, TemporalLich wrote:
okay I'm just gonna say this post is actually pretty scummy.In post 811, EspressoPatronum wrote:I want you to tell me how TL is townier than me.
Then I want you to vote TL.
You're pushing my lynch even if I'm town, which only makes sense for town if it is a policy lynch or I'm scum even if I'm town.- EspressoPatronum
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What's your read on TL?
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Stupidity is usually town unfortunately
And I think it was determined earlier that TL is playing to his towngame, way back when I unvoted him- Elbirn
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Yeah read the first 10 posts in my ISO and I arrived at a "this man is from the moon" conclusionIn post 816, Elbirn wrote:Stupidity is usually town unfortunately
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In post 816, Elbirn wrote:Stupidity is usually town unfortunately
And I think it was determined earlier that TL is playing to his towngame, way back when I unvoted him
Thanks for this. I'm signing off now, but I'll take a look at his ISO later with this in mind.In post 817, Elbirn wrote:
Yeah read the first 10 posts in my ISO and I arrived at a "this man is from the moon" conclusionIn post 816, Elbirn wrote:Stupidity is usually town unfortunately
And I think it was determined earlier that TL is playing to his towngame, way back when I unvoted him
Might also be better if I think on it for a night and look at his ISO with fresh eyes.
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In post 820, jjh927 wrote:EP v TL feels really tvt to me
Honestly, I’m really thinking you could be scum because you (1) pushed korina!town and (2) are now trying to defend (by moving the focus away from) what is very likely EP!scumIn post 821, jjh927 wrote:For someone who appears to be tunnelling TL, how hard do you think TD is trying to get other people to vote TL?- TiphaineDeath
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