Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[jjh927]

Because when I do it, I can also do better

[eth0s]

[TiphaineDeath]

GAAAAAAAH!

I just re-read the whole damn thing again and it just-doesn't-make-sense but I can't but my finger on how. I'm just going to stream of consciousness post a bit and maybe things will start to come together? I don't know.

So here's a living player list. That's often a good place to start.

TemporalLich (God, his first set of posts are so scum, but his wagon right now with all the slip-talk going on is convenient AF and I hate it. But also he is still posting so scummy, and I hate that too. I don't even know what to do with this slot.)
Menalque (So-fucking-brazen. Like, I play this way as scum sometimes but it's really rare in my experience. I feel like this guy has to be town? Probably? God I am so lost)
TiphaineDeath- It Me, I town, Doi.
jjh927 (Very tunnelly, usually a sign of town? Honestly gut has a strong town-read on this dude anyway.)
Adorable (Has connections to TL, but then also elements at 722? If they are both scum he's probably not? Honestly feels townie in general. I like this one I think.)
Elements (Early connection to TL from TL's derpiness, could totally be a TL buddy, still no jumping-out-ness on their own though.)
mastina (Who dis? She post content almost as little as I do. Doin' me a heckin' confuse friend)
Chemist1422 momo (Has no posts, maybe if there are posts there can be reads, but right now there are no posts.)
EspressoPatronum (Originally felt really town to me. Weird interactions around mena/Elbirn though. Might be scum? I am feeling this less and less the more I read.)
Elbirn (This guy. This is who all this shite is about. He slipped, he didn't slip, idgaf slips are dumb half the time anyway but people are TALKING about it without VOTING him. The point of slips is that if they are real they are DEFINITIVE. So there should be votes here, right? RIGHT?!)
eth0s (First person to talk about the slip, I think? Maybe? Why he not vote elbirn?

Ok, also I have a votecount to work with. There are 0 votes on elbirn, this is suspiscious AF, but for the life of me I STILL cannot figure out what it points to. Also Elbirn isn't voting anyone. Also very weird. I don't know why TL is on EP. Hell, I don't really know why I'm on EP, except that Mena said to, and he had good reasons too, and just because EP has been making big townie looking posts since then doesn't mean mena's reasons were wrong.

Post#915 by Jjh makes sense though. Again makes me wonder who WOULD kill the son of a shepherd and the only thing I can think of is Jjh. Like, there is NO reason to kill there. He hadn't done anything, he was adorable and useless. Unless maybe you are going to use it to take his voice as his partner in a PT and are really-good-scum so I can't tell otherwise and are also scum with elbirn who has a bunch of other shit that doesn't make sense and can protect him by pointing at his interactions with the dead guy????

Ok, I went way off the rails there. Like, so far off the rails that I don't know where they are or where I started. But that's how stream of consciousness works sometimes. Sometimes you find stuff EVEN YOU didn't know you were looking for. None of any of this makes sense to me still, but, I have a theory, and it is this.

VOTE: JJH

[jjh927]

I think you should keep doing the stream of consciousness rather than stopping there

[jjh927]

You've called me a gut strong townread and voted me for some very questionable nka poe in the same post

I feel like there's no way you're scum when you're doing that, but it's not taking you good places

[TiphaineDeath]

If JJh scum then Elbirn scum then TL=VI then EP=town because two scum don't just hang out on a wagon like that. If EP=Town then Mena v. EP=TvT and if we assume that adorable is town and ignore the lurker then last scum is in elements-mastina-ethos. Ethos voting elements is a dumb bus, therefor scumteam is Jjh-Elbirn-Mastina.

Boom, did it!

[TiphaineDeath]

YOU ARE IS THE PROBLEM. You post like a townie god and I have no idea what is happening in this game but that theory at least makes SOME-FUCKING-SENSE and I have nothing else to work with right now. Plus if I am right and you ARE scum there is no way in fucking hell you are getting lynched unless I start yelling about you right-now because you are playing REALLY WELL.

[jjh927]

You've got more wrong lmao

I can't play like this as scum

[jjh927]

If you want to do some meta, my best scumgame was vengeful ghosts. I was scum with deb. The shenanigans I achieved alongside deb in the dead thread were trully incredible

[TiphaineDeath]

Alright, let's be smart about this. If jjh is scum, then I probably just called the whole damn scumteam. If he's not then he is REALLY fucking townie and should be left alive to do more townie things. If I just called the whole damn scum-team, then lynching in elbirn-mastina will tell me that Jjh is scum when they flip scum. If I am wrong, then losing either of them is significantly less detrimental then losing Jjh. Ok, breathing again. elbirn or mastina should be todays lynch.

VOTE: Elbirn

Is correct here I think.

[jjh927]

When I'm off my phone, if it'll really help you take off your tinfoil hat, then I can look through my pt and see if I can find something that would convince you me and deb were tight af

[jjh927]

Wait there absolutely is something

We set up a means to talk to each other after the PT closed

If we said eels in a post, then the 5th word in every post after that would form a message. The message stops when a post contains the word nana

[jjh927]

Deb said hello to me at eod because he could

[Chemist1422]

That wallpost is making me question TD’s sanity but it’s definitely a townie one

But like

Geez

[TiphaineDeath]

They don't call me tenacious delirium for nothing! xD

[TemporalLich]

I think I have encountered someone else who can pull thoughts directly from the aether...

[jjh927]

Don't try and put yourself in the same category as this guy

He's clearly towny and his thought process is clearly telegraphed, but his conclusions are bat shit

Whereas you're making shitty justifications for conclusions it's convenient for you to reach

[TemporalLich]

You do not know my true power...

I can think of opalescent demons and gilded wraiths...

[jjh927]

The thought journey is more important than the thought destination

[TemporalLich]

either way, my thoughts have been said to be "alien" so if it is true TD's thought process is transparent then we are very different beasts.

I forge my own path through the thought realm.

[jjh927]

I don't particularly care for how out there what you're thinking about is


What I'm saying is that TD appears to be lost, but you can still trace his journey to wherever the fuck he is on a map.

What I can see regarding your thought process involves being on opposite ends of a map simultaneusly with no path between the two

[jjh927]

What do you think about elements? And don't just give me a short answer

[TemporalLich]

What do you think about elements? And don't just give me a short answer

Judging by the ISO, elements is the kind of person you'd want in your slice of township. He votes like a townie and posts like one too. The wanting to sheep SoaS tells me this guy is laidback and doesn't take things seriously. The not wanting to discuss roles is town-indicative or at least not wanting to rolefish in the shining moonlight. The reasoning in 156 is a fairly decent point made. 305 does seem like a weird post considering 304 is required reading for context, but doesn't seem like this indicates elements is a scumlord trying to act towny. 732 is the most recent elements post which is indeed concerning however, it might mean elements is a shadow lurking in the elements.

[eth0s]

@TD

1) that was the most entertaining thing I have read all game and the absolute velocity at which you are slinging tinfoil is almost as respectable as it is hilarious.

2) I get how you landed at jjh. I see that you've changed course already, but I still want to let you know that you're almost certainly wrong about jjh. I agree that seeing an Elbirn flip may change my thoughts on him BUT I still don't think jjh would logically be my next lynch option with an elbirn red flip and really don't know what to make of you voting jjh in the first place. I find it kind of weird what you said about elbirn on your readslist and voting jjh instead, because I think if you put any stock into the scumslip you would have voted him initially. But I guess you already rectified that by explaining how an elbirn flip gives you association info without potentially mislynching jjh. I like that.

3) I mind meld with you on temporal. If you have time to kill and want to see my own experiences with him, read the game I linked to EP.

eth0s (First person to talk about the slip, I think? Maybe? Why he not vote elbirn?

Not sure if you're just talking about currently but I have spent most of the day voting elbirn. I only moved off because I had this sliver of hope that TL would finally say something that I find AI (wrt reading TL) but that definitely didn't happen and I already stated my reasons for why I think there are better lynches than TL today.

I know you just dumped a lot of thoughts but I want to know what you think about Elements more in detail. I know there isn't a lot to read but his whole interaction on the Korina wagon was definitely weird and although I pointed out the Elbirn slip, I'm sure if you read my posts in isolation you should understand why my vote has changed the way it has. Keep in mind wagon/pressure =/= lynch. If you need me to spell it out for you, I am totally not opposed to lynching Elbirn today. But there are others that I would like to hear from first and potentially lynch over him, depending on what kind of content they do or do not provide.

Overall TD I'm giving TD slight townpoints for this because the stream of consciousness does indeed feel natural, and he is actually playing the game now which is nice. So it should go without saying but I'ma say it anyway. Not lynching TD today.

{elements, elbirn, compromise mastina and

maybe

} TL. Lynch has to be in this pool today or town is actually fucking up.

p-edit:

What do you think about elements? And don't just give me a short answer

Judging by the ISO, elements is the kind of person you'd want in your slice of township. He votes like a townie and posts like one too. The wanting to sheep SoaS tells me this guy is laidback and doesn't take things seriously. The not wanting to discuss roles is town-indicative or at least not wanting to rolefish in the shining moonlight. The reasoning in 156 is a fairly decent point made. 305 does seem like a weird post considering 304 is required reading for context, but doesn't seem like this indicates elements is a scumlord trying to act towny. 732 is the most recent elements post which is indeed concerning however, it might mean elements is a shadow lurking in the elements.

okay what the actual fuck. TL I honestly think you're trolling at this point. Like I still don't have a damn clue how this post comes from town but why would it come from scum? idfk this is why I have been so skeptical on the slot all game like what are we supposed to do with him when he posts like this

is the alien celstial posting supposed to be his scumtell or something? because I don't remember him doing this in our prior game. please tell me there's an answer to this and it's actually that simple

[eth0s]

Okay here's where I'm at with TL. I think I physically feel a blood vessel popping in my head just trying to parse his recent posts. So forgive me if this seems heavy handed but even if I regret it later I am sticking to it.

I am going to QUICKHAMMER TL if he gets to L-1 at any point in Day 2

yes you read that right. All day one -- before it was interrupted abruptly with the bad korina lynch -- I had been trying to figure out how I am going to approach TL.

I thought to myself "do I just push a policy lynch?"
"do I wait to see some kind of behavior that differs from our last game?" (the alien talk trolling BS is the only think I have noticed here so far but that feels really weak)
"do I just ignore him and let the rest of the town decide his fate?"

like I said, I never got an answer before the day closed.

Now it's Day 2.
It's too late to policy lynch him so here is where I'm at.
If I see the differing behavior on a level that actually strikes me as AI, I'm going to deathtunnel that shit jjh style.
I can't ignore him anymore, he is actually triggering me.

SO I am left with two options in my mind.

I either avoid voting him like the plague until mylo/lylo where my working theory is that people will actually be able to somewhat read him based on PoE, OR if it comes to it, at least for the current dayphase I QUICKHAMMER HIM IF HE HITS L-1

I mentally can't try to sort that slot for the time being. Like I really just can't so

TREAT HIS L-2 LIKE AN L-1 AND GET HIS CLAIM THERE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT OUT OF YOUR VOTE BECAUSE I SWEAR TO GOD I AM QUICKLYNCHING HIM IF YOU GIVE ME THE CHANCE