Detective Penguin & City of Fogport [Game Over]

[Vecna]

So me and Bingle are both mechanically towncleared here, id say, UNLESS scum only consists of 3 people.

If either of us were scum, the mod would have no reason whatsoever to let the game continue since it would be scum autowin.

Also bingle, not sure if claiming was right here still, if its PP/croag together with JJD they mightve still been buying the ruse. Either way, its fine.

Putting in a 50/50 is kinda crappy though, but meh.

[Vecna]

Also, shouldnt there be a sanity for the Chenn flip?

Or do we not get to have any way to deduce if this was that "cpr" doc or a doc of some other sanity?

[Vecna]

CALL GM: sorry if I misunderstood how all this works, but wasnt there supposed to be a sanity on the Chennisden nightkill flip?

[FakeGod]

Fixed.

[Vecna]

excellent, thank you

[Vecna]

So FMPOV this is pretty clearcut now, but ill keep my patience for a bit to hear croag/PP out

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Spoiler: @Bingle:

I'm laughing my butt off at how right your leads are yet how wring your deductions are.

I agree that you can't be scum with Vecna because the game would be over already. I also agree that scum can scum claim now if it was you OR Vecna with someone else.

So, it's either you (alone), Vecna (alone) or Marquis (alone or with someone else).

If it's Marquis alone then he lost already still, because even if you lynch me and he shoots a Cop he'd still be up against 3 townies to beat. HOWEVER, you just gave him a golden chance to shoot in you/Vecna without being suspected because YOU outed that you still can be shot. (He couldn't have done it before because only the 3 of you knew that)

If it's Marquis + someone else THEY have already won. I get lynched, that "someone else" can shoot either you/Vecna using their factional kill while Marquis uses his SCUM VIG to shoot the Cop that isn't with him. Result: 2 scum vs 1 town left.

But I have given up already so it doesn't matter to me. If you are the lonely scum I will call both vecna & Marquis stupid. If it's Vecna alone then you and Marquis are stupid. If Marquis is scum (regardless of whether he has a living partner) then you and Vecna are the stupid ones. It's a win-win-win situation to me. ANYWAY it turns I will get to hand 2 players S.T.U.P.I.D. tags to tattoo on their foreheads.

[Vecna]

A town here would hand himself the stupid tag to be outplayed so badly either by a player that is hardcore lurking, or by a player thats in a hood that is screaming, SCREAAAAMING *there is scum in here*.

[Croag]

Butterfly


I’m worried about this


I think town have lost

[Croag]

Unless there's only one scum left

[Vecna]

im pretty sure pp was asking you about your results and all that

[Croag]

yeh i replied

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

So, it's either you (alone), Vecna (alone) or Marquis (alone or with someone else).

This is where I'm at. I think there's only one left.

[Croag]

@PP did you check or...

[PenguinPower]

Yes. Same.

[Croag]

bruh

[Croag]

VOTE: marquis

[PenguinPower]

Didn't he claim to have vigged Fish without a cc though?

[Croag]

does being a vig confirm town?

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

No it doesn't. The thing is I'm not sure Marquis actually shot Monger. It still could be that Kuribo was faking to draw the NK and was actually a PGO or even a Mirror. Look at how hard he was calling for FL to shoot him.

But that doesn't explain 2 kills on N2 (since FL only claimed the 2nd kill of N3), so If Marquis is a Vig he probably holstered on N1, claimed the kill on his buddy for towncred, shot Kagami on N2, holstered on N3 and claimed he was out of shots, saving his next move to when it counted most.. God that would be too complicated for him to come up with without a Master Mind like Bingle.

So, how the fame played out and how we reached this situation I think Bingle is the lonely Scum left if that's the case (if scum were only 3 at the start of the game).

If there are 2 left THEN it's Marquis + one of the Cops. But if there's a Scum Cop they could have claimed a guilty on me today still and lynched me. By the time Town finds out the bluff I would have been killed plus one of Vecna/Bingle shot at night so lynching the Scum Cop tomorrow is no problem because the other one of Bingle/Vecna gets shot the next night and scum win still.

And since it seems I'm chasing my tail at this point, and can't even risk being wrong on Bingle (because if I am I'd be handing scum the game by lynching an uncaffeinated Townie) I simply will stop efforting at this point and prepare my "to blame" list instead. (That's a pretty bold move, I say)

But seriously, if it was up to me I'd lynch Bingle today. If he is Scum we win. If he is Town we lose, but he also does, which is the same as if we lynch me, but sweeter because I lynched him rather than him lynching me. It only affects the JJD-Bingle affair and doesn't change the outcome of the game (if he is Town)

[Vecna]

Croag, scum is trying to pocket you here. There is a reason PP wanted you to out first, because he does not know his own sanity.

He needed you to claim first, because he does not know how to fakeclaim it otherwise. The fact (im assuming thats what your code meant here) that you got an INNO, means he can also claim an INNO to protect his teammate. If you had gotten a guilty, he would have no chance but to bus his teammate here.

The scumteam is PP and JJD.

Im also not protecting any teammate of mine in my hood. But were all town. If there was two scum in our hood the game would be over.

[Vecna]

Also, what sense does it really make for Kuribo to have been a PGO? He was in a hood with all investigatives.

Marquis shooting him makes the most sense.

Regardless, we can deduce it now IF marquis shot him or not. Watch

[PenguinPower]

Croag, scum is trying to pocket you here. There is a reason PP wanted you to out first, because he does not know his own sanity.

I outed first the previous day.

[PenguinPower]

Nice try though.