Large Normal 223 | New Beginnings | GAME OVER

[davesaz]

Roles that can act one time should be called one shot in the name of the role. Not doing so causes unnecessary confusion.
PRs outing themselves while being townread, I don't get that one.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Gamma Emerald

has died during the night. He was:

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome to Large Normal 223. Your role is Town Mason Mailman.

You share a private thread with ______, a Mason _____. You may talk to them HERE at any time. You know them to be aligned with the town.

Each night, you may send me a message to be sent to any living player. The player will not know that you sent the message, but will know it came from a mailman.

You win when all mafia members are dead and at least one town member remains alive. The game thread is HERE.

Oh, FGS! Gamma was probably the player to keep me sane here

Also, who got the mail? What did it say?

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Gamma mailed me last night and my answer is Yes.

OK.. assuming Carca knows what the mail said she should be able to evaluate the answer.

[davesaz]

PRs outing results unprompted, in particular revealing what roles are in the game (!!) is another head scratcher. Can voyeurs be scum?

[profii]

I am not a fan of Bob. He initially voted for Elements for reasons 'setup spec'ing very early' etc

He then left the wagon, but came back when the lynch actually went through and when he put his vote on he said he didn't believe the macho/one shot claim.

My concern is that if I am casing a slot for being scummy I'd be like "woah guys I'm voting elements because he was setup speccing over in this post, plus now look at this macho claim it's gotta be BS" - i.e. case the whole ISO for a scum evidence - Bob didnt mention his initial setup spec concern when he votes due to his claim concern, which makes me believe he is looking for a reason to be on the wagon rather than actual scum hunting properly.

VOTE: Bob3141

Obviously I will hear him out but I'm just going to vote there for now.

I've looked at Tchill's ISO and someone is going to have to take me through the case here, he doesn't come across super town of the players I've looked at so far but I dont think he is the most scummy either at this point unless I've missed something of course.

[Titus]

PRs outing results unprompted, in particular revealing what roles are in the game (!!) is another head scratcher. Can voyeurs be scum?

Can be but if Garmr was scum, he'd probably share it in his PT.

This just seems to be one of those dumb things Garmr does.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Had the masons claimed already?

Dang. Carcalilly was so obvtown even without the claim.

How do you Carca is Mason if you didn't know they claimed??

[Garmr]

PRs outing results unprompted, in particular revealing what roles are in the game (!!) is another head scratcher. Can voyeurs be scum?

Can we lynch Dave for this post. Dave scum have day chat do you think I would out the doctor if I was a scum pr.

[Garmr]

PRs outing results unprompted, in particular revealing what roles are in the game (!!) is another head scratcher. Can voyeurs be scum?

Can be but if Garmr was scum, he'd probably share it in his PT.

This just seems to be one of those dumb things Garmr does.

Titus beat me to it and I think she's starting to know me well.

[profii]

The doctor is a rather awkward position now.

[AaronFrost]

PRs outing results unprompted, in particular revealing what roles are in the game (!!) is another head scratcher. Can voyeurs be scum?

Can we lynch Dave for this post. Dave scum have day chat do you think I would out the doctor if I was a scum pr.

But why would you do it as a town PR? There was no reason for you to out that info.

[Garmr]

PRs outing results unprompted, in particular revealing what roles are in the game (!!) is another head scratcher. Can voyeurs be scum?

Can we lynch Dave for this post. Dave scum have day chat do you think I would out the doctor if I was a scum pr.

But why would you do it as a town PR? There was no reason for you to out that info.

Why wouldn't I? I have my reasons if you can't think outside the box then you that's on you.

[Titus]

Why aren't you upset at me calling you dumb?

[AaronFrost]

PRs outing results unprompted, in particular revealing what roles are in the game (!!) is another head scratcher. Can voyeurs be scum?

Can we lynch Dave for this post. Dave scum have day chat do you think I would out the doctor if I was a scum pr.

But why would you do it as a town PR? There was no reason for you to out that info.

Why wouldn't I? I have my reasons if you can't think outside the box then you that's on you.

Because I'd prefer if you didn't reveal information that could potentially benefit scum?

[Garmr]

Why aren't you upset at me calling you dumb?

Because I imagine you saying it in your real voice.

[AaronFrost]

Yeah I'm not really seeing the case against Tchill either.

His opening in the game I played with him was more lackadaisical and non-serious, but here his tone feels different and more like he's focused on solving. I'd probably put him as a null-town lean for now.

[Titus]

Why aren't you upset at me calling you dumb?

Because I imagine you saying it in your real voice.

What do you imagine my real voice as?

[Alonzo]

VOTE: Bob

[gobbledygook]

Had the masons claimed already?

Dang. Carcalilly was so obvtown even without the claim.

How do you Carca is Mason if you didn't know they claimed??

Garmr said that Carcalilly was mason before I asked if they had claimed

[Garmr]

Why aren't you upset at me calling you dumb?

Because I imagine you saying it in your real voice.

What do you imagine my real voice as?

The one in skype mafia were you call you yourself the god mother

[bob3141]

I am not a fan of Bob. He initially voted for Elements for reasons 'setup spec'ing very early' etc

He then left the wagon, but came back when the lynch actually went through and when he put his vote on he said he didn't believe the macho/one shot claim.

My concern is that if I am casing a slot for being scummy I'd be like "woah guys I'm voting elements because he was setup speccing over in this post, plus now look at this macho claim it's gotta be BS" - i.e. case the whole ISO for a scum evidence - Bob didnt mention his initial setup spec concern when he votes due to his claim concern, which makes me believe he is looking for a reason to be on the wagon rather than actual scum hunting properly.

VOTE: Bob3141

Obviously I will hear him out but I'm just going to vote there for now.

I've looked at Tchill's ISO and someone is going to have to take me through the case here, he doesn't come across super town of the players I've looked at so far but I dont think he is the most scummy either at this point unless I've missed something of course.

That seems pretty reachy to me. Are you going to pick out everyone that voted for elements early in day one. By the time elementis made his watcher claim i was already sorting him as town. With me even calling out those who continued to push him.

Wasn't with till after his one shot macho watcher claim plus himself voting that made me reluctantly vote for him.

Straight watcher i believed. Macho watcher could be possible role but no townie should have mentioned the macho bit. Added to all that self voting. It just looked bad for town

Oneshot talk tipped me over the edge when it came to voting for him. I cant see why he mentioned that as he flipped just a macho watcher. I wonder if he was responding to once

per a night

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I find it odd you overlook my scum hunting aswell. Did you not think kop has been scummy this game. Has he not done anything in your opinion to justify my vote on him before the wtacher saga. For you to think that doesnt even count as scum hunting.

He has yet to answer any of my points i think

[Garmr]

This is town bob after experiencing both scum bob doesn't feel like this.

[bob3141]

going to go through the voting history. will do that this weekend as i will need to make my own vote counts of day one to analysis.

but first thing that stands out from lil vc is this

roosterfoster (5): Elements, Gamma Emerald, Kop, davesaz, profii

roosterfoster (5): x, x, Kop, davesaz, profii

Now we might have 8 players more but we also have more scum.

Im fleeing its very likely one of kop, dave and profi is scum.

doubt its dave and with me feelign strongest about kop

[bob3141]

regardless of rooster would flip as I cant see atleast one avoid such a wagon.

Last game of scum and town wagons any over 5 alwasy had on scum on it. apart from one

[bob3141]

And rooster looked like a rather lazy bandwagon. As his lack of posting wasnt evidance that could be used for him being scum. As if anyone checked his games they could tell he doesnt lurk as scum.

Naked votes yes but not lurking.

And if a player isnt posting he clearly aint playing