He's JK I think?In post 4223, Vecna wrote:Im still REALLY wondering though why a scum JJD would be using his ability on anyone that wasnt fish on N1 though.
Wait, did we deduce which doc he is? Would his ability have saved fish?
It's not a bad play, in hindsight. There was a claimed vig dead and everyone in his hood was supposed to holster, so he didn't have to worry about that shot. That left, from his PoV, FL. If he didn't think FL would shoot a partner, him doccing makes perfect sense. Hell, he could have been doccing FL, meaning FHPOV there was a 25% chance of killing FL or a 25% chance of stopping his kill.In post 4225, Bingle wrote:He's JK I think?In post 4223, Vecna wrote:Im still REALLY wondering though why a scum JJD would be using his ability on anyone that wasnt fish on N1 though.
Wait, did we deduce which doc he is? Would his ability have saved fish?
My guess is that he really did think he was CPR doc and was hoping to be a scumvig.
In post 3010, FakeGod wrote:
So this was the start of day3.
Quote me.In post 4215, Bingle wrote:JJD guessed that we weren't really bulletproof several times.
Yes. I am the JK (Paranoid Doctor)In post 4223, Vecna wrote:Wait, did we deduce which doc he is? Would his ability have saved fish?
In post 2193, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:Yes.. totally. Because the first thing a mod usually thinks of is "let's give scum a challenge here.. so let me make 3 townies unkillable and give them extra voting powers too". Sounds like something any sane mod would do.
There's more, but I'm not really interested in digging. Basically, I've suspected you the entire game because of this whole thing. Our claim didn't make sense to scum you, and you knew if it was true you were pretty disadvantaged. You also couldn't afford to check, because gambling that we were lying and being wrong literally lost you the game.In post 2247, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:This just hit me: WHAT IF the "unkillables" were really not? What if their PT effect does NOT stop a direct kill? I guess that would explain why they seem to TR each other today, under the false assumption that if scum knew that they would have certainly killed one of them.
^^That's not something I would think of. Blame the monkey man for planting the thought in my head.
Pops never acted afaicr. Gobbles might have the night he died, but I don't remember anyone claiming it. And honestly, it wouldn't really matter.In post 4227, Vecna wrote:In post 3010, FakeGod wrote:So this was the start of day3.
Where PP, Croag, JJD, Marquis......and I believe Pops?
All had claimed to act?
My memory is fuzzy, but this might actually be an interesting tidbit
Why would the title character and sane cop be scumIn post 4171, Vecna wrote:Croag, scum is trying to pocket you here. There is a reason PP wanted you to out first, because he does not know his own sanity.
He needed you to claim first, because he does not know how to fakeclaim it otherwise. The fact (im assuming thats what your code meant here) that you got an INNO, means he can also claim an INNO to protect his teammate. If you had gotten a guilty, he would have no chance but to bus his teammate here.
The scumteam is PP and JJD.
Im also not protecting any teammate of mine in my hood. But were all town. If there was two scum in our hood the game would be over.
First quote is in no way suggesting you could be shot. It was suggesting there IS scum in your hood.In post 4230, Bingle wrote:In post 2193, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:Yes.. totally. Because the first thing a mod usually thinks of is "let's give scum a challenge here.. so let me make 3 townies unkillable and give them extra voting powers too". Sounds like something any sane mod would do.There's more, but I'm not really interested in digging. Basically, I've suspected you the entire game because of this whole thing. Our claim didn't make sense to scum you, and you knew if it was true you were pretty disadvantaged. You also couldn't afford to check, because gambling that we were lying and being wrong literally lost you the game.In post 2247, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:This just hit me: WHAT IF the "unkillables" were really not? What if their PT effect does NOT stop a direct kill? I guess that would explain why they seem to TR each other today, under the false assumption that if scum knew that they would have certainly killed one of them.
^^That's not something I would think of. Blame the monkey man for planting the thought in my head.
I'll leave FL's knowledge to Vecna, since he was the one who saw it.
Flavor is not AI. FG is a good mod.In post 4233, Croag wrote:Why would the title character and sane cop be scum
Justify me having suspicion that you suspected I might be lying about the full extent of our hood powers but weren't sure?In post 4234, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:First quote is in no way suggesting you could be shot. It was suggesting there IS scum in your hood.
Second quote is more of a meme for the moonlogic I use on my main. Try again
Further:In post 4233, Croag wrote:Why would the title character and sane cop be scumIn post 4171, Vecna wrote:Croag, scum is trying to pocket you here. There is a reason PP wanted you to out first, because he does not know his own sanity.
He needed you to claim first, because he does not know how to fakeclaim it otherwise. The fact (im assuming thats what your code meant here) that you got an INNO, means he can also claim an INNO to protect his teammate. If you had gotten a guilty, he would have no chance but to bus his teammate here.
The scumteam is PP and JJD.
Im also not protecting any teammate of mine in my hood. But were all town. If there was two scum in our hood the game would be over.
Why do you keep saying I'm the sane cop?In post 4233, Croag wrote:Why would the title character and sane cop be scum
this was completely referring to the point where it was suggested to me you and jjd are scum together and thus you could only be sane as i have an innocentIn post 4238, PenguinPower wrote:Why do you keep saying I'm the sane cop?In post 4233, Croag wrote:Why would the title character and sane cop be scum
Hmmm. It's like I had a wallpost about why 1 scum doesn't make sense that you never addressed at all.In post 4214, Bingle wrote:Okay, let's sole examine the balance of Vecna/Bingle being the last scum, because if FG was super dumb and didn't balance correctly AND it isn't Vecna, it doesn't matter because we have another day anyway.
Scum has:
Paranoid Cop
Ninja Watcher
BP Multivoter
Town has:
Sane Cop
Insane Cop
Ninja Parity Cop
3x 1shot Vig
1x 2shot Vig
Ninja Tracker
1x Doctor
1x JK
1x VT
1x Multivoter
1x Friendly Neighbor
Multiple public millers.
This setup is EXTREMELY broken by massclaim.
The vigs can only target in a pool of 14 which has 2 scum in it. To that end, you lynch me and Vecna first (useless roles), then Marquis. Lets assume, for the moment, that that hits town first and scum second. Town is now at 13 people (11v2), maybe.
Kuribo is the obvious nightkill post massclaim. You assign 1 of the 4 doctors to protect him over night, randomly chosen from inside of the doc hood. Kuribo/1 Doc/Cops act. Everyone else holsters.
If Kuribo survives, has a 75% chance of having a useful cop result N1. Cops begin getting useful results N2.
There are 6 caffeinated town on D3 with 13 people. Caffeine is a non issue. If scum shoots for caffeine wincon, they let 3 investigations happen every night. Scum can't win that.
If scum shoots for non caffeine, they abandon the caffeine wincon and are functionally 3 goons (one of which is conditionally guiltied by being the best D1/2 policy lynch) in a town with 4 vigs that all want to holster until there's a really small kill pool.
tl;dr, if there's a three person scumteam with me or Vecna, town had a high chance of literally making this game unwinnable for them on D1. FG isn't a shit mod.
