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[Rick Dalton]

People should always fake claim rather than true claim for reactions

You have yet to do that here though. I suggest you CC my Doctor claim.

Sure, I have, you just haven’t seen it yet.

And I didn’t know you claimed doctor?

I’m a Loyal Doctor. I’m CC’ing this.

Real claim.

[Rick Dalton]

VOTE: Almost50

[Rick Dalton]

VOTE: Almost50

VOTE: JJD

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I am a Role Cop and I confirm Rick Dalton is a Doctor. (I dunno about Loyal, but I guess I get the role without the modifiers??)

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Note: IF there's a Role Cop.. please DO NOT CC, as I could also be a Tracker who Tracked RD to Carca and then deduced he was telling the truth after Garmr claimed.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Or maybe I am a Follower who knows RF performed a protective action last night?? Like, take your pick.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Btw.. I am one of those... or am I??

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

GDI, RD. This is EXHAUSTING. How do you do it ALL the time??

[gobbledygook]

Eyy, it’s my stunt double.

Guys, I don’t like lynching Tchill. He’s a Boon Babe, and I like to give him the benefit of the doubt until I see actual reasons for me to believe he is scum. That being said, I have no real idea for seeing Tchill as a wagon like this

Opportunistic vote hopping isn’t a real reason? If that’s not a reason, what qualifies as a reason to you?

[gobbledygook]

Posts 2100-2107... no. No. No. No.

We are not doing that this game, you both have two pages to retract all claims otherwise I am going to wagon you both until you die.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

@gobble:

1- Which claim(s) would you like me to retract? I've claimed everything in the book, and then some more.

2- You threatening to wagon me? I'd like to see you try.

[davesaz]

I honestly think he shouldn't have said macho. He was in a really bad position as either faction. I probably shouldnt have voted him myself but i really wanted a lynch to go through and he became too much of a liability unfortunately.

Reminding myself to check a few things.
1. How much time was available at the point in the wagon of Eevee's vote?
2. Was there really time pressure? The mod implied an extension, did that happen before or after the vote? Was there posting after the vote?
3. Did Eevee state a concrete position at that point in time?

Not the only vote I'm planning to look at, but comfortably in the middle of the list.

[profii]

leap to illogical conclusions cough profii.

This is unnecessary- just move on

[gobbledygook]

All of the ones that are false. I’m not gonna play another game where you and Rick try to out scumcluck one another.

[davesaz]

Posts 2100-2107... no. No. No. No.

We are not doing that this game, you both have two pages to retract all claims otherwise I am going to wagon you both until you die.

While I'm not personally fond of 2100-2107, I don't think a retraction ultimatum gets us anywhere.

[gobbledygook]

If this town let’s them continue with that nonsense it will result in a loss.

[texcat]

Had a chance to read through yet texcat?

LOL. I've skimmed a little bit. If there's something important I should read in Day 1, could you point it out to me?

Who is texcat? I like texcat, I’ve played with her many a times, I’ve hard caught a texcat in a game I didn’t play at all until dy 4, then I caught like 3 scum.

I like texcat.

Pocketed.

Warm and cozy in pocket, but are you sure it was you who caught me? I thought it was Cliff Booth, your stunt double, because I'm sure it was a stunt.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

All of the ones that are false

Then I can't retract any of my claims. They're all not false, but they may or may not be true.

[profii]

I am not a fan of Bob. He initially voted for Elements for reasons 'setup spec'ing very early' etc

He then left the wagon, but came back when the lynch actually went through and when he put his vote on he said he didn't believe the macho/one shot claim.

My concern is that if I am casing a slot for being scummy I'd be like "woah guys I'm voting elements because he was setup speccing over in this post, plus now look at this macho claim it's gotta be BS" - i.e. case the whole ISO for a scum evidence - Bob didnt mention his initial setup spec concern when he votes due to his claim concern, which makes me believe he is looking for a reason to be on the wagon rather than actual scum hunting properly.

VOTE: Bob3141

Obviously I will hear him out but I'm just going to vote there for now.

I've looked at Tchill's ISO and someone is going to have to take me through the case here, he doesn't come across super town of the players I've looked at so far but I dont think he is the most scummy either at this point unless I've missed something of course.

That seems pretty reachy to me. Are you going to pick out everyone that voted for elements early in day one. By the time elementis made his watcher claim i was already sorting him as town. With me even calling out those who continued to push him.

Wasn't with till after his one shot macho watcher claim plus himself voting that made me reluctantly vote for him.

Straight watcher i believed. Macho watcher could be possible role but no townie should have mentioned the macho bit. Added to all that self voting. It just looked bad for town

Oneshot talk tipped me over the edge when it came to voting for him. I cant see why he mentioned that as he flipped just a macho watcher. I wonder if he was responding to once

per a night

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I find it odd you overlook my scum hunting aswell. Did you not think kop has been scummy this game. Has he not done anything in your opinion to justify my vote on him before the wtacher saga. For you to think that doesnt even count as scum hunting.

He has yet to answer any of my points i think

to be fair that an eerily accurate description of what I did

I felt like day 1 was a drag so I figured a logical way to start sorting was ISO all the element voters, ctrl+f my way through the word element and see why people were voting for him and what stood out

Your response is pretty cool though so I'll go look through my notes for where I'll be looking next

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

If this town let’s them continue with that nonsense it will result in a loss.

Not likely. Just let us do our thing and concentrate on scum hunting.

Like seriously.. I have literally claimed EVERYTHING I could, so the net sum is the same as if I didn't claim anything at all. How is that more confusing to anyone?

[profii]

There is a chance Rick Dalton is scum

[Alonzo]

There is a chance Rick Dalton is scum

I think the chances of Rick being scum increase if cliff tells me he is townreading Rick.

Do you townread Rick cliff?

[Alonzo]

@texcat
My fave part was pages 40-50 when cliff tore elements a new asshole

[Alonzo]

I had Bob, Dave and a couple of others who's names I have already forgotten as scum at a glance

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I had Bob, Dave and a couple of others who's names I have already forgotten as scum at a glance

I need you to remember those two so I can confirm then as town, please.