In post 7331, Krazy wrote:I also think the assertions that she's outside her scumrange are highly suspect.
I've talked about this before. Let me quote just one example.
Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]mastina wrote:To the contrary.
I've linked to every prior scumgame.
Within which is records of my play.
Strong, confident pushes on scumbuddies when bussing, compared and contrasted to my Vedith push.
The push on SuperfluousNinja after being down a scumbuddy on D1, when I have a proven track record of being adverse to bussing.
Pretending these things aren't valid doesn't make them so.
This is not how I play as scum and every player who has experience with me knows for it.
Yes, I can do anything as scum--so yes, this COULD be me as scum, because yes just because I haven't done it before as scum doesn't mean I couldn't do it as scum, but again. Just because I can do it doesn't mean I would. And all the evidence is there that I'm not.
I don't take direct control of the game as scum--I've been pushing for that alpha position since the start of D2. As scum, I can sometimes be handed the alpha position...in which case, I will then promptly fake reluctance for it (when my real emotion is, "SCORE!" at the :easywin:). As scum my modus operandi is to let the town destroy itself while I lurk in the shadows, garnering support by way of having proven myself to not be responsible for the moronic mislynches and to carve out the image that I couldn't be responsible for the town's failings because I wasn't in the midst of it.
Yet this game I have been going hard-out since D2. I have been pushing as hard as I can, as much as I can--yes, I push people hard as scum, but when I push people hard as scum, I do so more in the veins of vanity; I target people I know I won't actually lynch, because the people who I target can then continue to be targeted, to be tunneled, by me for days and days. No need to readjust my reads when my pushed scumreads are all alive days later because my pushes failed to get them lynched.
But here I have adjusted my reads many times, switching them. Yes, I can and have done this as scum, but it is a trend I tend not to.
Here I have pushed players hard and continuously, vying for the spot as town leader--not sure I've done this as scum, but yes, I could do it as scum...yet the very fact that I can't be sure I've done it is proof that there's a trend where I tend not to.
Here I have been trying to coordinate with big-name town players and to establish a rock-solid townbloc, a town core, from which to POE the scum and lynch them--I'm pretty sure I don't do this as scum.
Here I have been trying to rally people behind my banner--something I avoid doing as scum, because the more I try to be a town leader, the more eyes are actively paying attention to every move I make, every "misplay" that I then have to write off.
I don't often bus my scumbuddies--and when I do, it's usually just one. I know that I need scumbuddies to survive, and have gone on record multiple times to say that in about every single instance where I've been the last scum member of my team alive, I've lost. I run risk-reward analysis and the risk of being fucked over by not having the extra scum is almost never worth the reward of cheap towncred.
This is, absolutely, the polar opposite of my scumgame.
I mean I can find other examples than that, but that's from a towngame of mine which you were fucking in so you fucking read that post from me when I was town and saw me explain it then.
Anything COULD be scumastina because scumastina has a wide range of skills she has in her repertoire.
But just because anything COULD be scumastina doesn't mean you can't fucking townread me because.
1: there are things that I, as town, do and think which I, as scum, never think about and never do. There are subconscious tendencies which even me with me being self-aware of my own meta simply don't think about and can't really replicate.
2: there are things that I, as scum, COULD replicate from my towngame...but it would be a fucking strategic mistake to do so, where the elements from my towngame I could copy as scum would be more likely to cause me to lose.
3: Like with any other player it is possible to read me off of the motivations behind the action with a look into my mindset and looking at my intentions, with the understanding that scumastina is calm, cool, collected, and calculating whereas town mastina tends to be impulsive, rash, and not think things through.
Just because I can do something as scum doesn't mean it's not possible to critically analyze possibility versus probability on what is MORE LIKELY.
Because you absolutely can, and in the past, HAVE, been able to go,
"mastina is more likely to do this as town"; in the past, you can and HAVE been able to go, "mastina is more likely to do this as scum".
And that is absent from this game with you just going for a blanket "she COULD be scum doing this" without any critical thought into whether I DID do it as scum.
In post 7331, Krazy wrote: But certain things--like misrepresenting Ank's hide target as part of her case, backtracking on that point, while simultaneously misrepresenting my meta, makes it very hard for me to give her the benefit of the doubt here.
All of these points are nitpicky things. Picking up on small details which frankly don't even have any impact on my alignment (or if they did, are towntells).
The type of argument which flies in violation of possibility versus probability--latching onto the possibilities of "this one small finer point means mastina COULD be scum" while ignoring the overarching grand picture which paints the rather definitive picture of why I'm not.
In post 7331, Krazy wrote:This feels very, very different to the town mastina of Tatsuya's anime upick.
Oh really?
Do fucking tell because this is precisely the fucking mastina from that game down to the bullshit starting after a sudden death.
In post 7331, Krazy wrote:She's also the only scum player that has ever mislynched me as town
An outright lie--I wasn't on his mislynch and in fact advocated AGAINST lynching his slot that game.
