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[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.04

Arimaa is a game that is easy for humans to learn how to play and difficult to program a computer to play.

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.á

Saladman27

(3): Chibiie, Spartan117, AaronFrost

Spartan117

(1): GeorgeBailey

GeorgeBailey

(1): teacher

teacher

(1): Dongempire

Dongempire

(1): Merfin

Not Voting

(2): Yodavader, Saladman27

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-10-07 09:00:00).

Mod notes:

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[Donempire]

You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk

at any time

.

Are you anxious to chat with your scummate, and thats why you're asking?

Dude, you’re an SE - at least try to know the setup or not create this level of wifom (and yes, I’ve seen decimal make this exact ploy before. Not sure I like it here.

Mhm.
Even if they have daychat its like that scum wont have any meaningfull conversation until night falls. Wouldnt you agree? Maybe thats what i was aiming for?

[Donempire]

Alright, i gotta make do with what i already have here.

I dont like teachers response to getting wagoned. He posts about an hour later he is at l-1 and immediatly lashes out onto aaron for not unvoting even though he isnt on his wagon.

Why do you want teacher to claim? Do you intend on lynching him today?

This is a terrible response to L-1 from somebody who is on my wagon.

Now i agree that this would be a bad post had he actually been on his wagon, and even though aaron wasnt i still have a bone to pick with it but the gist is this: teacher was panicking here.
Now lolhammers are a common enough occurence on newbie games, enough to keep an eye out or even panic at times. However an experienced player like teacher, had he rolled town shouldnt have problem keeping calm at l-1. I feel like town!teacher here would have tried to explain the implications of a L-1 this early and panicked later. I believe that he also would have townread this at first glance.
Of course him disappearing right after that doesnt do him any favors either i dont think. Somethings wrong with his playstyle, yet i cant quite put my finger on it right now. I guess i'll have more substantial stuff later in the game.

Besides that im not liking saladmans activity. He seems to post a lot, yet almost all of them lack substance.

[Donempire]

Plus, no one claims on page 2.

Bad post.
If you actually saw what spartan was trying to do there it wasnt to get a claim, nor to lynch. It was to put enough pressure for both teachers and the people on his wagons activity to rise. Scumreading him on such a thin basis is in itself scummy.

[Plotinus]

GeorgeBailey² has been prodded. They have (expired on 2019-10-02 16:00:53) to post before I start looking for a replacement.

The activity requirements listed in the rules are a minimum, not a maximum. A good early game milestone is for everybody to have more posts than I do.

[Saladman27]

Plus, no one claims on page 2.

Bad post.
If you actually saw what spartan was trying to do there it wasnt to get a claim, nor to lynch. It was to put enough pressure for both teachers and the people on his wagons activity to rise. Scumreading him on such a thin basis is in itself scummy.

Time to bring my meta, if you take a look at my 4 games of experience, you can see that I’m not good at “reading the room”.

[teacher]

Dong immediately after 39:

teacher is a pretty relaxed player overall so i dont think the response is telling.

Dong now, about 39:

teacher was panicking here.

Um, what??

VOTE: Dong

[teacher]

Plot, speaking at least for me the site has been down for much of the last two days. If we can extend the day a bit to compensate, i am in favor.

[teacher]

Dong immediately after 39:

teacher is a pretty relaxed player overall so i dont think the response is telling.

Dong now, about 39:

teacher was panicking here.

Um, what??

VOTE: Dong

I’ll note the reversal of position in the exact same post happens after 97, when I express some interest in Dongs lurking.

[AaronFrost]

Plot, speaking at least for me the site has been down for much of the last two days. If we can extend the day a bit to compensate, i am in favor.

+1 to this. Pages take forever to load on my end and it's making it very hard to even read the thread right now.

[AaronFrost]

@Dong

I think aarons reaction to the vote is also pretty bad, it reads as though hes more concerned on where he is at when/if a lynch occurs rather than getting a scum lynch through. The whole convo reads like TvS and if i had to pick a side i'd say aarons the goon here.

Can you elaborate more on this?

[GeorgeBailey]

Alright, since teacher's questions didn't really spark up activity levels too much, I'll throw in a question of my own and see where it gets us.

If you had to lynch somebody right now, who would it be and why?

I'd probably lynch Salad. Didn't like his quick unvote after voting Spartan and his vote on Spartan seemed very opportunistic to begin with.

Actually, I think Spartan's actions were more of a "to get the ball rolling" move. Voting Saladman up to L-2 seems like good pressure to get a role read, like he said he wanted.

UNVOTE: Spartan117

I dont like the thought lynching one of the two people who is fighting upstream to keep this game somewhat alive.

Im going to need something from Dong pretty soon or thats my preferred lynch. Also open to Chibi or Yoda atm. Spartan and Salad are pretty off the table for me.

I will say we want to be coalescing in around 48 hours, so I will definitely play tonight. Im sorrya bout last night -- the site was being wonky and mod duties come first.

Agreed, but my preferred vote would probably be

Merfin

. There's the least amount of information about Merfin right now. (if that's what you were going for ).

And i'd like to hear more from you.

And apply a little

pressure

VOTE: Merfin

Aaron and Teacher seem like Townie to me, just their overall engagement in claims.

Saladman i'm really unsure of. He seems to be all over the place.

[GeorgeBailey]

Dong immediately after 39:

teacher is a pretty relaxed player overall so i dont think the response is telling.

Dong now, about 39:

teacher was panicking here.

Um, what??

VOTE: Dong

I don't think Dong is scum. Calm people can panick, that's not what he's saying here.

But I don't think teacher is scum just because he panicked at L-1. Wouldn't any role would panick if they're about to be lynched d1 from an RVS?

[AaronFrost]

Maybe I'm wrong here, but I legitimately think that teacher thought I was voting for him when I posted 37 so his reaction seemed genuine. He also did explain the implications of L-1 after that. I agree that what I posted there would've been pretty hypocritical if I was voting for teacher at that moment.

What 'bone' do you have to pick with 37?

[teacher]

Dong immediately after 39:

teacher is a pretty relaxed player overall so i dont think the response is telling.

Dong now, about 39:

teacher was panicking here.

Um, what??

VOTE: Dong

I don't think Dong is scum. Calm people can panick, that's not what he's saying here.

But I don't think teacher is scum just because he panicked at L-1. Wouldn't any role would panick if they're about to be lynched d1 from an RVS?

I read 56 as saying he cant read too much into my reaction because Im generally pretty relaxed. The implication being that my reaction is pretty relaxed, just like my general play Thus to me, 56 directly contradicts 102.

Im not sure I understand your post, but I think you are saying you read 56 differently (Im not sure what "here" is in your post). How do you read it?

[teacher]

You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk

at any time

.

Are you anxious to chat with your scummate, and thats why you're asking?

Dude, you’re an SE - at least try to know the setup or not create this level of wifom (and yes, I’ve seen decimal make this exact ploy before. Not sure I like it here.

Mhm.
Even if they have daychat its like that scum wont have any meaningfull conversation until night falls. Wouldnt you agree? Maybe thats what i was aiming for?

No to the first question. Maybe on the second.

[GeorgeBailey]

-Snip-

I don't think Dong is scum. Calm people can panick, that's not what he's saying here.

But I don't think teacher is scum just because he panicked at L-1. Wouldn't any role would panick if they're about to be lynched d1 from an RVS?

I read 56 as saying he cant read too much into my reaction because Im generally pretty relaxed. The implication being that my reaction is pretty relaxed, just like my general play Thus to me, 56 directly contradicts 102.

Im not sure I understand your post, but I think you are saying you read 56 differently (Im not sure what "here" is in your post). How do you read it?

Sorry, after reading my earlier post it did seem pretty confusing.

I read it as more of a comment on your overall character, simply stating that according to previous posts, you're pretty relaxed. Then he contrasted that to the fact you freaked out at being put to L-1, and that an experienced Town wouldn't do that.

But I think that you were just scared of being hammered d1 for no reason.

[teacher]

I read it as more of a comment on your overall character, simply stating that according to previous posts, you're pretty relaxed. Then he contrasted that to the fact you freaked out at being put to L-1, and that an experienced Town wouldn't do that.

I dont think 56 was a comment about my overall character. It was a response to a direct question about my reaction, and it was saying my reaction was NAI.

In 56 Dong says my post is no big deal -- "I dont think

the response

is telling"
But in 102, Dong makes a big deal of the exact same post -- "I dont like Teacher's

response

"

I bolded response here, because he is talking aobut the EXACT same thing - a specific post, not a general character. Before it was NAI, but now -- when Im one of the few active posters in the game, and indicating openness to him -- he says it was AI. I see this as a more nuanced version of OMGUS. I dont think this is a towny evolution in the context of this game.

[Merfin]

Why dong?

With a name like that? Why not!

George,

After reading all of the rules on the site a couple times my brain feels a bit overloaded and my memory sucks so sorry if i play like dummy.
Why did you pick me for pressure, though? I can't be the only one who doesn't know what to say yet.
There is that chiibi person. (Cute name though, which is SUSPICIOUS )

From my research, it is difficult to gather any real information on Day 1.

But I think that I feel most confident in

frost

being not a bad guy.
I think he's being helpful and seems to care about the town.

Also, good to know its not just my bad internet with the site taking forever to load things.

All text must be >=70 and legible --P

[teacher]

Also, good to know its not just my bad internet with the site taking forever to load things.

All text must be >=70 and legible --P

While you are reading rules, you might want to check into Rule 6.

What do you think of Spartan?

[AaronFrost]

I don't really see where teacher was panicking honestly. I think his response was pretty warranted since Spartan seemed to imply that he was okay with hammering a vote on page 2. I think teacher reacts that way regardless if it was him or someone else being wagoned.

[Merfin]

Well since there's no point now.

UNVOTE: teacher

1. What is your experience at Mafia
This is my first game. But I've a lot of the variants of Mafia.
2. How do you play as town
I'm guessing you gotta just be friendly and deduce suspicious actions
3. How do you play as scum
I'm guessing I have to be secretive and get innocents lynched
4. What do you think gives away a player as scum or town

Scum:

Eagerness to Vote, defending player for no reason.

Town:

Friendly? Skeptical of baseless lynches.
5. Time zone/standard posting times
EDT

What was the point before? If pressure, why not vote Salad or Frost now to build a wagon?

Any actual thoughts on what people have said?

I've been following this thread for the past few days but i'm not quite sure what to gather from anything.

Spartman seems the strangest since he hammered you and almost got you lynched.

VOTE: Spartan117

come to think of it, you are pretty jumpy.
Maybe you are looking for a safe place to park your vote so you can look like you are participating in the town???
You were so quick to move your vote after someone said something to you.
You've already voted so many people!

HMMMMMMMMM

I have my eyes on you, mister

Teacher

, WOOPS. It wasn't game relevant so i made i tiny but forgot. Wont do it again, sorry.

I re read Spartan117's posts by themselves and he has a lot of words but they all seem like filler
and I really don't like his #38

I don't like how he tried to tell people not to quickhammer someone, and then went on to almost get someone lynched so fast.

I think it would be OBVIOUS youd only hammer people you thought were scum,
and he really looks like a better person to vote than my random one
even more than the slightly scummy GeorgeBailey

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Spartan117

[Merfin]

also if Bailey and spartan were scum together that would make sense for his quick unvote of him for no real reason
i heard that's a mafia distancing tactic

[AaronFrost]

Yeah distancing is a pretty common scum tactic but I think it's pretty unlikely that scum would be distancing from each other on Day 1, especially in a Newbie game.

[GeorgeBailey]

I unvoted Spartan because I think his reason to vote someone to L-1 was understandable, and had no consequences.

And you're right, I think Chibii (and Yoda) are the only ones that haven't their voice examined yet.

I still see no reason to vote Dong or Spartan though.