Baton Pass [Game Over!]

[YukzYuk]

Why does Sakura get the baton again?

[Celestial Coordinates]

People I will never support for first round baton:
RC hydra
Ankamius hydra
Nacho
Wisdom

People I will support for baton:
Myself
Shoshin

People I will never support for first round baton:
RC hydra
Ankamius hydra
Nacho
Wisdom

People I will support for baton:
Myself
Shoshin

votes are good if you supertownread someone and want both to save them and enable them to choose the next person to save

aka dont save rc

If people are going to knee jerk refuse us for round 1 baton then I'm going to hold off on playing until the round 1 baton is over.

Just play the game no one is even doing this yet

aren't they?

[Celestial Coordinates]

Ugh I dont know I just dont want this to become a game where RC is the primary point of contention those games are the absolute worst

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

the path to having that not happen isn't the one that was being followed this game even before i started posting

[Celestial Coordinates]

I did not even think our reads were that good at the end of D1 in magical girls upick, plus RC saying like 10 million times we were going to be the N1 NK, and yet, we did get shot, except due to our super unkillable ability... we didnt die.

actually the last thing i posted in d1 was that the entire wagon of 9 players was town and that entire wagon of 9 players was in fact town so...

[Cephrir]

Does anyone feel strongly reading another player? If so, how viable would it be to make a chain of players by having all post which players in this game they feel comfortable reading (and if some feel comfortable with none, then give them certain players who have a tendency to spew). Then we build a chain, where each player in the sequence is responsible for reading the player after them -- if they trust them as town, they pass the baton, if they do not trust them as town, they skip that player in the chain, and we will come back at the end of the day.

You want to make this game about everything that I hate about the state of this website.

Not one solitary person is as much of a meta genius as they think they are. This is the worst suggestion I have read in a mafia game this year.

[Celestial Coordinates]

I think that OH has a fairly high probability of being scum trying to push town to do basically anything besides the obvious correct thing.

At the very least I think it's a fact that they have been pushing scum wincondition harder than anyone else has to the point that we're currently at.

[Oh]

I don't think Shoshin is a likely nightkill.

Who are the likeliest nightkills in your eyes? Celestial and Nacho?

If no one protects us, we are very likely getting killed. RC is almost always targeted N1. YGM was an exception.

A town player will die N1.

What about me feels like scum, Enter?

Not me.

Oh, interesting.

I assume neither of you are ever going to sign your posts?

Where are your reads at currently?

This was an awkward place to ask this question.

Are you trying to talk to me, Dann?

[Celestial Coordinates]

OH can you compile which posts were made by which constituent heads?

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.9

Celestial Coordinates(4)

~ Gay Dance Gone Wrong⁹⁰, Shoshin²³, Celestial Coordinates⁴², Sakura Hana⁴¹

Nachomamma8(2)

~ Wisdom³⁵, Oh⁴¹

Something_Smart(1)

~ gameplay506¹⁶

Shoshin(1)

~ Dannflor³⁵

Oversoul(1)

~ Oversoul²⁰

Gay Dance Gone Wrong(1)

~ PMysterious⁴

Cephrir(1)

~ Cephrir³⁸


Not Voting (4): YukzYuk¹⁵, Goodies¹, Nachomamma8¹², Something_Smart³¹

With 15 alive it takes 8 to decide.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-10-14 08:04:59)

[Cephrir]

how do those of you who aren't unreasonable about this issue not get frustrated every time you see it happening?

i just want to play mafia and not Meta Connect Four.

[Oh]

Does anyone feel strongly reading another player? If so, how viable would it be to make a chain of players by having all post which players in this game they feel comfortable reading (and if some feel comfortable with none, then give them certain players who have a tendency to spew). Then we build a chain, where each player in the sequence is responsible for reading the player after them -- if they trust them as town, they pass the baton, if they do not trust them as town, they skip that player in the chain, and we will come back at the end of the day.

You want to make this game about everything that I hate about the state of this website.

Not one solitary person is as much of a meta genius as they think they are. This is the worst suggestion I have read in a mafia game this year.

I think you don't fully understand my suggestion, then?

I'm not trying to take advantage of MS players as "meta-geniuses," I'm trying to apply greater responsibility to players. This isn't a ploy to make town find town, this is outing scum by making them take responsibility for their actions in greater regard than usual.

I think that OH has a fairly high probability of being scum trying to push town to do basically anything besides the obvious correct thing.

At the very least I think it's a fact that they have been pushing scum wincondition harder than anyone else has to the point that we're currently at.

Do explain.

[Celestial Coordinates]

Ankamius you feel like a caricature of yourself.

[YukzYuk]

Why does Sakura get the baton again?

Directed at CC

[Celestial Coordinates]

Not just any town, we will die tonight like nearly every game RC isn’t protected. You guys should know this. Do I really need to list examples?

Only way we possibly won’t is of our reads are really off but RC also gets targeted when he’s wrong, like in Arch where RC tribute hydra allowed us to die.

[Dannflor]

This was an awkward place to ask this question.

Are you trying to talk to me, Dann?

I don't know who you even is.

I am trying to talk to Enter.

Answer the question instead of commenting on awkward placement.

[Cephrir]

I think you don't fully understand my suggestion, then?

I'm not trying to take advantage of MS players as "meta-geniuses," I'm trying to apply greater responsibility to players. This isn't a ploy to make town find town, this is outing scum by making them take responsibility for their actions in greater regard than usual.

It's exactly the same as playing the setup naively (i.e. pass to your townread) except that you've assigned everyone a meta padawan for some reason

[Oh]

how do those of you who aren't unreasonable about this issue not get frustrated every time you see it happening?

i just want to play mafia and not Meta Connect Four.

Because they actually see the post for what it is instead of just skimming and then assuming it's their worst nightmare?

Ankamius you feel like a caricature of yourself.

Not Ankamius.

[Celestial Coordinates]

how do those of you who aren't unreasonable about this issue not get frustrated every time you see it happening?

i just want to play mafia and not Meta Connect Four.

Because they actually see the post for what it is instead of just skimming and then assuming it's their worst nightmare?

Ankamius you feel like a caricature of yourself.

Not Ankamius.

That's even worse?

Since when have you been an information slave to the point of knee jerk sacrificing massive chunks of town equity at the altar of information?

[Celestial Coordinates]

Ankamius you feel like a caricature of yourself.

If Ankamius is town, she will probably obvtown it by D2. Oh’s a null for me rn.

[Oh]

Not just any town, we will die tonight like nearly every game RC isn’t protected. You guys should know this. Do I really need to list examples?

Only way we possibly won’t is of our reads are really off but RC also gets targeted when he’s wrong, like in Arch where RC tribute hydra allowed us to die.

I don't need examples, I'm telling you that if you're town, you're town. Which is just like everyone else here. One of the town players will die night 1. If we protect you, then there is WIFOM about whether or not you're scum tomorrow, and then we have to waste a lynch on you when it could be used on someone better.

This was an awkward place to ask this question.

Are you trying to talk to me, Dann?

I don't know who you even is.

I am trying to talk to Enter.

Answer the question instead of commenting on awkward placement.

You're aggressive this game.

Why are you pushing for reads from me right now?

Are you not interested in the conversation at hand?

I think you don't fully understand my suggestion, then?

I'm not trying to take advantage of MS players as "meta-geniuses," I'm trying to apply greater responsibility to players. This isn't a ploy to make town find town, this is outing scum by making them take responsibility for their actions in greater regard than usual.

It's exactly the same as playing the setup naively (i.e. pass to your townread) except that you've assigned everyone a meta padawan for some reason

Explain, please, how the way you want to play the game is executively different? Give me examples of how your idea of how the game goes down differs from my idea of how the game goes down/

[Celestial Coordinates]

Why does Sakura get the baton again?

Directed at CC

Shoshin and Sakura are obvtown here.

[Cephrir]

We can't do rigid chain creation. Someone with an ego will break it and then we'll waste the entire rest of the game arguing about whether to lynch them for it.

[Oh]

That's even worse?

Since when have you been an information slave to the point of knee jerk sacrificing massive chunks of town equity at the altar of information?

Please quote me being an information slave. What are you even talking about here?

I'm not supporting any of this.

[Cephrir]

Explain, please, how the way you want to play the game is executively different? Give me examples of how your idea of how the game goes down differs from my idea of how the game goes down/

The only difference is that your plan says we can only pass to predetermined players we're "comfortable reading."

Also, I admit my desired way to play the game is probably suboptimal but I want to have fun more than I want to win and I know no one is going to listen to me.

[YukzYuk]

Does anyone else think Sakura is obvtown? Including RC on this question.