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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:28 am

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I'm really unhappy if OH is anything but scum. Hopefully they're just scum.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:28 am

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In post 350, Shoshin wrote:This caught my eye:
In post 315, Wisdom wrote:i just realized bp can also mean baton pass in addition to bulletproof

when i said and read bp before i was talking about bulletproof
And then this:
In post 326, Wisdom wrote:hm
all my first thoughts were players already in the game
I have one more thought but we'll see
In post 337, Wisdom wrote:
Shoshin wrote:I think it's best to treat baton mechanic as two extra lynches.
isnt it already two extra lynches
or do you mean decide the two people now, then just baton everyone else
There's also the stuff Yuk pointed to earlier, which wasn't scummy alone but definitely fit a scum Wisdom narrative.
could you explain what scum motivation i have in those..?
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:28 am

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In post 498, Oh wrote:I do have a few but they're about as solid as jello right now.
That's fine, I just need to know where your head is at.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:28 am

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In post 497, Dannflor wrote:I have a light town read on you currently but I'm not interested in voting for you.
Oh I don't want to be voted either. It's not like scum's gonna kill us lol
I just wanted us to be mason until Day 3 provided that we're both alive until then.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:28 am

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This discussion about mechanics is very boring.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:29 am

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In post 484, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 472, Oh wrote:
In post 467, Celestial Coordinates wrote:That's even worse?

Since when have you been an information slave to the point of knee jerk sacrificing massive chunks of town equity at the altar of information?
Please quote me being an information slave. What are you even talking about here?

I'm not supporting any of this.
I can’t speak for RC but you do tend to hard push info lynches. Are you disputing this?
Yes, I'm disputing this very much so.

Please quote where I did any of the "information slaving" you're accusing me of.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:29 am

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In post 500, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I'm really unhappy if OH is anything but scum. Hopefully they're just scum.
It sucks to have to realize that in the end you carry no more weight than most other town players, I know.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:29 am

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In post 505, Oh wrote:Yes, I'm disputing this very much so.

Please quote where I did any of the "information slaving" you're accusing me of.
Your slot is arguing against the obvious correct play of having 3 lynches in favor of 'having more information and knowing who chose who.'

that's information slaving.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:30 am

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I’m thinking Oh may be town here, even if I disagree with them but it does ping me slightly that they’re ignoring my impact in the game but the thought process reads townie. RC may disagree.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:30 am

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In post 506, Oh wrote:
In post 500, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I'm really unhappy if OH is anything but scum. Hopefully they're just scum.
It sucks to have to realize that in the end you carry no more weight than most other town players, I know.
Funny that you make a dig at my weight in the lobby right after making a post about how I
ABSOLUTELY MUST
be lynched before endgame because I'm the true endboss of mafiascum.net
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:30 am

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In post 506, Oh wrote:
In post 500, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I'm really unhappy if OH is anything but scum. Hopefully they're just scum.
It sucks to have to realize that in the end you carry no more weight than most other town players, I know.
Funny that you make a dig at my weight in the lobby right after making a post about how I
ABSOLUTELY MUST
be lynched before endgame because I'm the true endboss of mafiascum.net
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:30 am

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In post 501, Wisdom wrote:
In post 350, Shoshin wrote:This caught my eye:
In post 315, Wisdom wrote:i just realized bp can also mean baton pass in addition to bulletproof

when i said and read bp before i was talking about bulletproof
And then this:
In post 326, Wisdom wrote:hm
all my first thoughts were players already in the game
I have one more thought but we'll see
In post 337, Wisdom wrote:
Shoshin wrote:I think it's best to treat baton mechanic as two extra lynches.
isnt it already two extra lynches
or do you mean decide the two people now, then just baton everyone else
There's also the stuff Yuk pointed to earlier, which wasn't scummy alone but definitely fit a scum Wisdom narrative.
could you explain what scum motivation i have in those..?
Oh wow maybe Shoshone was right
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:31 am

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If RC scumreads me this game pretty sure it means his hydra is scum
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:31 am

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i scumread OS starting now
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:31 am

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In post 504, Shoshin wrote:This discussion about mechanics is very boring.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:31 am

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In post 494, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 489, Oh wrote:Anyone with any mafia experience knows this won't go through in execution no matter how much everyone agrees to it.
i don't think it would be especially hard to make it happen.
in fact i think in most lobbies it would be easy, just that this game has a lot of people who have big ideas
Yes.
So, what? It's against code to ever let my slot go to endgame is what you're saying and this entire argument is coded you refusing to let me influence the game at all because I might be scum?
Find three lobbies where this went through in practice not theory and I'll dismiss my thought of you as someone who plays a lot of mafia but has no clue what is actually viable as far as player agreement.

And no, it's not against code to let your slot go to end game, it's against code to insta-bulletproof your slot because while RC's reads are good, your slot has been toxic and egotistical this game and more of that is not going to push a solid town together.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:32 am

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In post 510, Celestial Coordinates wrote:because I'm the true endboss of mafiascum.net
Well arent' you?
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:32 am

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Seriously speaking tho, Nancy's posts indicate the hydra is town.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:32 am

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In post 504, Shoshin wrote:This discussion about mechanics is very boring.
In post 514, Dannflor wrote:
In post 504, Shoshin wrote:This discussion about mechanics is very boring.
It's a necessary evil though.
Better get it done now then having them keep popping up the entire game.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:33 am

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In post 513, Celestial Coordinates wrote:i scumread OS starting now
Is this RC?
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:33 am

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In post 507, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 505, Oh wrote:Yes, I'm disputing this very much so.

Please quote where I did any of the "information slaving" you're accusing me of.
Your slot is arguing against the obvious correct play of having 3 lynches in favor of 'having more information and knowing who chose who.'

that's information slaving.
Quote me saying this.

Quote me saying "in favor of having more information" somewhere. Anywhere.

Also, quote how my style of playing the game removes the ability to have 3 lynches. Please explain that as well.

You're grossly misrepresenting me right now which is why I'm asking you to quote me. I think you're seeing what you believe to be opposition to everything you're doing and then you're assuming the stance I'm taking instead of legitimately trying to understand it.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:33 am

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it may be boring but establishing that we're going to actually lynch certain scummy people as opposed to let scum make sure that the lynches fall on town is more +town equity than any amount of sorting
Find three lobbies where this went through in practice not theory and I'll dismiss my thought of you as someone who plays a lot of mafia but has no clue what is actually viable as far as player agreement.

And no, it's not against code to let your slot go to end game, it's against code to insta-bulletproof your slot because while RC's reads are good, your slot has been toxic and egotistical this game and more of that is not going to push a solid town together.
I literally can't come up with an example where we had an organized approach to the game from the start and people fucked off and did their own thing without being scum pretending to be town.
There was FG's dance game where we decided the lynch order before any lynches went through and won because of it.
your slot has been toxic and egotistical
clarify this
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:34 am

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In post 503, Gay Dance Gone Wrong wrote:
In post 497, Dannflor wrote:I have a light town read on you currently but I'm not interested in voting for you.
Oh I don't want to be voted either. It's not like scum's gonna kill us lol
I just wanted us to be mason until Day 3 provided that we're both alive until then.
let's fake claim masons if one of us gets pushed

i saw someone do it in a recent game and it seems like a good strat
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:34 am

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Shoshin is Sakura obvtown?
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:35 am

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In post 510, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 506, Oh wrote:
In post 500, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I'm really unhappy if OH is anything but scum. Hopefully they're just scum.
It sucks to have to realize that in the end you carry no more weight than most other town players, I know.
Funny that you make a dig at my weight in the lobby right after making a post about how I
ABSOLUTELY MUST
be lynched before endgame because I'm the true endboss of mafiascum.net
I don't want you lynched before endgame because you're good at scum.

I want you lynched before endgame because the way you're playing the game is generally toxic, counter-productive to any semblance of approach to Socratic discussion, and overall anti-town.
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