Baton Pass [Game Over!]

[Oversoul]

Don't read "I think you should be protected first," read "If you're protected first because people are legitimately town reading you, that's ok with me. I'm not opposed to it."

TBH I'm not really sure how you can read it the former way anyways?

This implies you townread the Cici hydra, right?

[Oh]

Isn't Shoshin echoing my sentiments on Wisdom with the addition of her self awareness point?

Oh, who do you want to baton kill and who do you want to be BP?

directed @OH

Somewhat? I didn't like how you responded to Wisdom originally. Not sure how to describe it, this part in particular was more gut than anything. I'm not sure agree with that part of the argument against wisdom anyways, TBH.
BP Shoshin
Kill gameplay probably

-E

[Oh]

Don't read "I think you should be protected first," read "If you're protected first because people are legitimately town reading you, that's ok with me. I'm not opposed to it."

TBH I'm not really sure how you can read it the former way anyways?

This implies you townread the Cici hydra, right?

No.

[Oh]

I don't understand where you get the idea that I'm townreading CiCi?

-E

[Shoshin]

I think {gameplay nacho goodies} are the 3 people that I like least so far.

This is roughly where I'm at, except with the inclusion of Wisdom as well. Why do you disagree with me on him?

[YukzYuk]

Oh would you baton kill Wisdom?

[Celestial Coordinates]

It's possible that what I'm seeing in Nacho is him struggling to get back into mafia (or even just mafia on MS) so I'm reluctant to go after him right now but he feels like he's pretty typical scumposting right now in the sense that there's something missing from his posting that I would expect to be there from town him (moreso knowing Nacho specifically.)

[Celestial Coordinates]

I think {gameplay nacho goodies} are the 3 people that I like least so far.

This is roughly where I'm at, except with the inclusion of Wisdom as well. Why do you disagree with me on him?

i shrug at wisdom. i have no read on wisdom rn.

[Oh]

...Enter and Dannflor?

You as well but Nancy sent me a discord scumreading them at about the same time.

Oh, alright.

Sakura's the universal townread I'm struggling with

I don't

scumread

her. I just don't think I've seen enough to be like gung ho yeah she's town.

She's my weakest town read in my lean town tier

Yeah I'm about the same place y'all are.

-E

[Oversoul]

I don't understand where you get the idea that I'm townreading CiCi?

-E

I don't see how you can be ok with town giving Cici the BP ability if you're not town reading Cici in the first place. Even at null, I don't think

I

would be ok with town giving Cici the BP ability.

[Something_Smart]

I like Nacho. I don't know if this is alignment indicative.

[Shoshin]

It's possible that what I'm seeing in Nacho is him struggling to get back into mafia (or even just mafia on MS) so I'm reluctant to go after him right now but he feels like he's pretty typical scumposting right now in the sense that there's something missing from his posting that I would expect to be there from town him (moreso knowing Nacho specifically.)

This was my sense as well, I expected more from him.

[Oh]

Oh would you baton kill Wisdom?

Under what circumstance?

-E

[Shoshin]

I think {gameplay nacho goodies} are the 3 people that I like least so far.

This is roughly where I'm at, except with the inclusion of Wisdom as well. Why do you disagree with me on him?

i shrug at wisdom. i have no read on wisdom rn.

What do you make of the posts I pointed to?

[Celestial Coordinates]

I think {gameplay nacho goodies} are the 3 people that I like least so far.

This is roughly where I'm at, except with the inclusion of Wisdom as well. Why do you disagree with me on him?

i shrug at wisdom. i have no read on wisdom rn.

What do you make of the posts I pointed to?

i read them and it doesn't change my shrug

[Oh]

I don't understand where you get the idea that I'm townreading CiCi?

-E

I don't see how you can be ok with town giving Cici the BP ability if you're not town reading Cici in the first place. Even at null, I don't think

I

would be ok with town giving Cici the BP ability.

I'm not saying I'm ok with town giving CiCi the BP ability right now.
I'm saying as a general overall rule in any and every game I only want CiCi made bullet proof after there is legitimate reason to think they're town, and not based on the argument that "RC provides a lot of +town equity if he is town, therefore we should save him regardless of alignment."

[Oh]

I don't understand where you get the idea that I'm townreading CiCi?

-E

I don't see how you can be ok with town giving Cici the BP ability if you're not town reading Cici in the first place. Even at null, I don't think

I

would be ok with town giving Cici the BP ability.

I'm not saying I'm ok with town giving CiCi the BP ability right now.
I'm saying as a general overall rule in any and every game I only want CiCi made bullet proof after there is legitimate reason to think they're town, and not based on the argument that "RC provides a lot of +town equity if he is town, therefore we should save him regardless of alignment."

-E

[YukzYuk]

Oh would you baton kill Wisdom?

Under what circumstance?

-E

Right now if you could decide which two players would be flipped would one of them be Wisdom? Other one is gameplay if I'm not wrong.

And if a majority of people want to have Wisdom flipped, would you argue against that?

[Cephrir]

OkaPoka
Dunnstral
Firebringer
MariaR
Alisae
Kagami
popsofctown
Creature
Shiro

---

I think Yukz is one of the above players.

I don't really take pleasure in althunting, but I don't think they sound like Kagami, and they can't be Shiro because they are posting.

I was going to vote Shoshin but now my scumread has beaten me to it so I don't feel like it anymore.

I'm not comfortable with the suggestion that we lynch Wisdom yet. I'm not town on him, but it seems a bit fast to me. I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable with any strong lynch suggestions at all at this time.

[Oh]

Oh would you baton kill Wisdom?

Under what circumstance?

-E

If you're asking if I'd do it right now if given the opportunity with no further gameplay, no. I wouldn't.

[YukzYuk]

OkaPoka
Dunnstral
Firebringer
MariaR
Alisae
Kagami
popsofctown
Creature
Shiro

---

I think Yukz is one of the above players.

I don't really take pleasure in althunting, but I don't think they sound like Kagami, and they can't be Shiro because they are posting.

I was going to vote Shoshin but now my scumread has beaten me to it so I don't feel like it anymore.

I'm not comfortable with the suggestion that we lynch Wisdom yet. I'm not town on him, but it seems a bit fast to me. I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable with any strong lynch suggestions at all at this time.

Then what are you comfortable with? What do you want to see town doing if not suggesting who to kill.

[Something_Smart]

I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable with any strong lynch suggestions at all at this time.

I should hope that none of the suggestions are strong yet...

[Oh]

Oh would you baton kill Wisdom?

Under what circumstance?

-E

Right now if you could decide which two players would be flipped would one of them be Wisdom? Other one is gameplay if I'm not wrong.

And if a majority of people want to have Wisdom flipped, would you argue against that?

I wouldn't argue for it or against it. I don't feel certain enough with my reads to feel comfortable with BPing Shoshin and killing gameplay right now, TBH.

[Cephrir]

Then what are you comfortable with? What do you want to see town doing if not suggesting who to kill.

Suspicion is fine, I'm just a bit alarmed that we're already saying things like "we should lynch X and Y today."

[Oh]

This line of questioning is another thing I don't like from Yukz.