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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:26 am

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From what I’ve seen from scum!Elements he’s more than capable of clearing himself so scumreading him for not being obvious town is ???

Like pops you hosted UT semi-open
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:42 am

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Nymph/Azure/Hectic/Dunn working PoE

Ruling out Azure/Hectic because of the scumslip conversation
Nymph/Azure
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Let’s see if I can rule any more of these out
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:45 am

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In post 257, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 251, Hectic wrote:Alright, so I'm gonna be honest. I've never been lynched on this site as any alignment, period.
That subconsciously makes me care far too much about being lynched, since some part of me wants that streak to continue.
Didn't get this feeling from that game where you were a mason and got run up to l-1
Maybe ruling out Dunn/Hectic for this?
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:46 am

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In post 262, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Chemist1422 replaces Dongempire
Hey wait a minute
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:47 am

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Locke/Nymph
Locke/Dunn
Locke/Azure

Not Locke/Hectic for the first part of his first walk after I replaced in(?)
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:48 am

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In post 454, Chemist1422 wrote:Locke/Nymph
Locke/Dunn
Locke/Azure

Not Locke/Hectic for the first part of his first walk after I replaced in(?)
*wall, not walk
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:49 am

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Second wall not the first one

Whatever
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:51 am

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I also feel like that’s not a buddying interaction with Azure
Nymph/Azure
Nymph/Hectic
Nymph/Dunn
Nymph/Locke
Dunn/Azure
Dunn/Locke

I might go into MariaR teams maybe? I don’t think she’s pushing an agenda though
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:56 am

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In post 450, Chemist1422 wrote:From what I’ve seen from scum!Elements he’s more than capable of clearing himself so scumreading him for not being obvious town is ???

Like pops you hosted UT semi-open
Yes, Elements has a 100% winrate as scum in games that I moderate.

The required winrate for "too scummy to be scum" to not be a logical fallacy is 101% winrate.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:03 am

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In post 458, popsofctown wrote:
In post 450, Chemist1422 wrote:From what I’ve seen from scum!Elements he’s more than capable of clearing himself so scumreading him for not being obvious town is ???

Like pops you hosted UT semi-open
Yes, Elements has a 100% winrate as scum in games that I moderate.

The required winrate for "too scummy to be scum" to not be a logical fallacy is 101% winrate.
That would be fine if the argument was that they were scummy, and not that they weren’t towny
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:14 am

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Vote Count 1.5

UNDO: Azuresky, Elements
LAYER: popsofctown, Nymph, MariaR, Dunnstral
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WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:16 am

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Those are literally the same thing.

I'm looking at his play and trying to interpret if he deeply cares about surviving. My best assessment is that he deeply cares about surviving, too deeply to be town. He's willing to omgus kill me for his own survival and I don't see a plausible reason for him to actually make a progression over to scumreading me. The stupid countdown thing painted him as a troll slot and interacted with no other slot.

You shouldn't interpret survivalistic behavior based on how effective it actually is, you should interpret based on how effective the player seems to believe it is. If a newbie claims Miller at L-3, you don't townlock the slot for doing something that almost guarantees its lynch, you scumlock the slot for behaving in a strange way that seems preoccupied with survival rather scumhunting.

Why do I even need to explain this?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:40 am

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If you're sole objective is to stay alive and not scum hunt, you deserve to die.

That sentence fits Elements.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:07 am

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In post 462, Nymph wrote:If you're sole objective is to stay alive and not scum hunt, you deserve to die.

That sentence fits Elements.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:13 am

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VOTE: Layer
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:17 am

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In post 464, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: Layer
Oh no I have been hammered woe is me
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:25 am

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It's not permanent, there's one more rearrange left.

You could vote Layer and make a case for lynching me instead.
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:38 am

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In post 466, popsofctown wrote:It's not permanent, there's one more rearrange left.

You could vote Layer and make a case for lynching me instead.
Oh wait right

But no I don’t wanna do that
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:40 am

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I'm already onwagon, my vote was a fakehammer. I actually just wanted to revote to say "bad Elements", but since you seemed to think that was a hammer I thought that was worth a shot.

Who do you scumread Chemist?
Nymph, Locke, and Dunn?
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"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:42 am

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In post 468, popsofctown wrote:I'm already onwagon, my vote was a fakehammer. I actually just wanted to revote to say "bad Elements", but since you seemed to think that was a hammer I thought that was worth a shot.

Who do you scumread Chemist?
Nymph, Locke, and Dunn?
No my sarcasm just went over your head, then over mine

And I don’t have any strong scumreads but I’m townreading Elements, MariaR, you, and slightly Locke
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:48 am

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I thought it was
probably
sarcasm, but I still had to shoot for the moon there.

Why do you townread MariaR and Locke?
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"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:50 am

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In post 449, Elements wrote:
In post 447, popsofctown wrote:Elements and Chemist won't hammer themselves, so the only people who might hammer are Hectic and Locke.
Hectic and Azure, want to comment on this?
Elements was selfing prior to sheeping me you are aware of that pops right?

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Wtf is this poe shit chemist is doing?

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Guys I didnt realize there was a deadline in the game since GiFs VCs are trash.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:07 am

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I'm not aware of that.


I would indeed appreciate the deadline being in each VC.

And a list of players who aren't voting.
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"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:26 am

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You know, I'm starting to get the crazy idea that none of you people like my quote walls. Probably just my imagination
In post 392, Azuresky wrote:I scumread Elements like this before, he was town. I dont plan on making the same mistake twice.
This isn't a particularly strong basis for a read, but seems genuine at the same time
In post 430, Nymph wrote:Hey pops, I don't think MariaR is scum or has a <rand chance of being scum as of now.

VOTE: Layer

Would like to vote pair after.
What's convinced you that Maria isn't scum?
In post 447, popsofctown wrote:Elements and Chemist won't hammer themselves, so the only people who might hammer are Hectic and Locke.

It bothers me that I can't remember enough about Locke in all the walls to know whether to expect him to hammer this. I can't remember Locke doing anything this game besides sometimes showing up and going "but really though?" when I try to build a townbloc.

Whatever between Hectic or Locke wouldn't be bussing will probably hammer this I guess.
I'm pretty sure I've mentioned that I was up for an Elements lynch and the only reason I would want to see Chemist D2 is for curiosity's sake so not sure why you find it so hard to tell whether or not I'm willing to hammer this.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:26 am

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Patience is a virtue. You know who said that? That's right: Me.

Right now, I can understand you may be impatient, and eager for me to return and hammer down my final verdict.

Only thing is, when you get to my level of skill in this field of work, it can take weeks, or even months to analyse and surmise my findings.

Due to the complexity of the game state, it will take a further ONE day until I return with my solve.

Great. That's sorted then. Now here's some content: Chemist is here. Pops is levitating. Azure is interesting. Maria is foreboding. Locke is pragmatic. Elements is bamboozled.

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