Baton Pass [Game Over!]

[Sakura Hana]

You scumread me, Oversoul? You should know better. There's no way I pick up my role PM in this game if I'm scum. RC should know better too.

why would u say this?

like why?

I don't know what you're asking. Oversoul just played with scum me, and town me, and there's no way he realistically thinks this is scum me.

>There's no way I pick up my role PM in this game if I'm scum.

That's kind of a trust tell isn't it?

Yes, but RC said she's done that before as scum.

[Gay Dance Gone Wrong]

hmmmm

[Something_Smart]

That's kind of a trust tell isn't it?

If she's actually replaced out in the past due to a scum role PM, yes.

If she hasn't, it's just a bluff.

[Something_Smart]

And it sounds like she hasn't. So it's just a dumb angleshooty argument.

[Gay Dance Gone Wrong]

ok S_S u can earn a town read

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.17

Celestial Coordinates(5)

~ Gay Dance Gone Wrong¹⁹⁹, Sakura Hana⁸³, Dannflor⁸², Oversoul⁵⁶, Celestial Coordinates²¹⁰

Something_Smart(2)

~ gameplay506¹⁸, Cephrir⁸⁴

Shoshin(2)

~ YukzYuk⁴², Shoshin⁶⁵

Gay Dance Gone Wrong(2)

~ PMysterious⁴, Oh¹⁴⁵

Nachomamma8(1)

~ Wisdom⁹⁴


Not Voting (3): Goodies³⁰, Nachomamma8¹⁸, Something_Smart⁷⁸

With 15 alive it takes 8 to decide.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-10-14 08:04:59)

[Dannflor]

I feel like Shoshin should be arguing why her play makes her town, but she’s chosen to completely ignore RC’s case on her in favor of the dumb angleshooty argument.

[Gay Dance Gone Wrong]

In Gay Dance, Kirari Momobami replaced out as scum possibly as a trust tell...
In Legends of Speakeasy, Alisae threatened to replace out as scum...

ok you know what, im cool with Shoshin dying

[PMysterious]

Good grief, I come on, and all of a sudden, there are 50 pages worth of content! If I can gather a tl;dr, Celestial is a strong candidate to get the baton, and Shoshin is scummy. (No lie, this is probably the most active game I've seen yet.)

[Shoshin]

RC can't read me. He was wrong about me both times I was scum (check the games if you don't believe me), and he has consistently called me scum in every game I've been town.

If anyone other than RC has concerns about me, please let me know. I'm not going to spend my time addressing anything he said.

Why didnt you bring this up before when people were saying that they'd rely on RC to read you?

I thought that was a joke. The specific person who said they'd rely on RC to read me is someone who has been in two games with me & RC. RC tried to lead a lynch on me both times. I was town both times. Can you see why I'd interpret their post as a joke?

But did RC townread you in the end in those games?

No. RC was scum in those games. RC perceives me as his biggest threat as scum & is willing to tank his town cred to get me mislynched. He has told me this personally outside of games & his behavior bears this out.

That's me saying something that's true & irrelevant to the question of who should get the bulletproof.

Why is it that your explanation for everything that doesnt make sense is "joke" or "i said something untrue and irrelevant"

No offense, but I think you're confusing two different things.

The only thing I said was a "joke" was the bit about sheeping RC. I didn't say anything else was a "joke." The reason for my explanation is because it's the truth.

I didn't say anything was "untrue." That's your word.

I've repeatedly said (not just to you but much earlier) that that question of who is most likely to get nightkilled is not the relevant question when it comes to deciding who gets bulletproof. The relevant question for the bulletproof is who town most wants to have alive after D1. Yes, scum are more likely to kill RC in the event that he's town. But that doesn't mean that keeping RC alive is better for the town than keeping me alive. These are two different things.

My question, what's the purpose of even asking this question? "Why is your explanation X" doesn't seem like a very useful question to ask.

You scumread me, Oversoul? You should know better. There's no way I pick up my role PM in this game if I'm scum. RC should know better too.

why would u say this?

like why?

I don't know what you're asking. Oversoul just played with scum me, and town me, and there's no way he realistically thinks this is scum me.

You're implying that the fact that you're playing the game means you're town.

Yes, correct. The fact that I'm playing this game is a town-tell. It might not appear that way to you, because you don't know me, but that doesn't change the reality of the fact that it's very unlikely I would have confirmed my role if I was scum. I've said this before in other games where I was town, for context, so this isn't something I'm making up. This is my last game for the next two years, and I definitely wouldn't be spending it playing scum. That's just a fact, yes it might seem unethical, but I wasn't even sure I wanted to play more mafia because I was scared of getting a mafia PM. I only signed up for this game because NSG invited me and it seemed like a fun setup to play.

[Shoshin]

I feel like Shoshin should be arguing why her play makes her town, but she’s chosen to completely ignore RC’s case on her in favor of the dumb angleshooty argument.

If you want me to address his case, I will. I mostly don't want to get in a back-and-forth with RC, so if I'm addressing it, it's going to be for your sake, not his.

[Sakura Hana]

I didn't say anything was "untrue." That's your word.

Oh yeah i misread, my bad.

[Oh]

Kirari replaced out of gay dance because Robster and I partnered with each other

-Edmund Duke, Alpha Squadron

[Shoshin]

It's a bit absurd to call me scum when nothing has even happened in this game. Generally-speaking, town RC gives me a chance to lynch scum because he knows my reads are good enough to do so. The fact he isn't doing that here is very concerning.

I also think his push on me came at a very suspicious moment -- I started challenging his bulletproof, meaning he possibly wouldn't be able to kill me at night & would need to lynch me.

Scum RC cannot afford to leave me alive for very long.

[Sakura Hana]

My question, what's the purpose of even asking this question? "Why is your explanation X" doesn't seem like a very useful question to ask.

It was a rethorical question... assuming i hadnt actually misread your post.

[Gay Dance Gone Wrong]

Kirari replaced out of gay dance because Robster and I partnered with each other

-Edmund Duke, Alpha Squadron

still really bad reasoning to replace out and Kirari was already under hot water

[Shoshin]

Why are you townreading RC, Sakura?

[Gay Dance Gone Wrong]

hi shoshin, u got some good scum reads?

[Gay Dance Gone Wrong]

shoshin, can u also give us baton candidates that aren't you or RC or the 3 lurkers with less posts than the mod?

[Sakura Hana]

Yes, correct. The fact that I'm playing this game is a town-tell. It might not appear that way to you, because you don't know me, but that doesn't change the reality of the fact that it's very unlikely I would have confirmed my role if I was scum. I've said this before in other games where I was town, for context, so this isn't something I'm making up. This is my last game for the next two years, and I definitely wouldn't be spending it playing scum. That's just a fact, yes it might seem unethical, but I wasn't even sure I wanted to play more mafia because I was scared of getting a mafia PM. I only signed up for this game because NSG invited me and it seemed like a fun setup to play.

Do you realize that trust tells are bannable offenses and prone to modkill?

[Something_Smart]

Good grief, I come on, and all of a sudden, there are 50 pages worth of content! If I can gather a tl;dr, Celestial is a strong candidate to get the baton, and Shoshin is scummy. (No lie, this is probably the most active game I've seen yet.)

Oof.

Yeah this is definitely not a good game for people who can't post frequently

[Sakura Hana]

Why are you townreading RC, Sakura?

I already said i townread the nancy head of the hydra.
As for the why, well, this feels like her town game? it's something hard to explain.

[Shoshin]

hi shoshin, u got some good scum reads?

I think there's a decent chance of scum in RC/Wisdom/Oversoul, and some combination of less active players (Nacho, PM, Gameplay, etc).

[Oh]

Gay Dance for president let's go

-Edmund Duke, Alpha Squadron

[Something_Smart]

Do you realize that trust tells are bannable offenses and prone to modkill?

It's not a trust tell if it's restricted to a single game. It's just a dubious self-meta claim.

I tend not to believe people who say that they would break site rules.