Baton Pass [Game Over!]

[Cephrir]

The only way I'm going to be okay with sheeping a nullread is if you are willing to take a BoP.

And even then I'm not sure if I'm okay with that.

disgusting

please kill this slot

[Celestial Coordinates]

eh

it's better this way.

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.18

Celestial Coordinates(5)

~ Gay Dance Gone Wrong²¹⁶, Sakura Hana⁹⁶, Dannflor⁸⁸, Oversoul⁵⁶, Celestial Coordinates²¹¹

Something_Smart(2)

~ gameplay506¹⁸, Cephrir⁹³

Shoshin(2)

~ YukzYuk⁵³, Shoshin⁸⁷

Gay Dance Gone Wrong(2)

~ PMysterious⁶, Oh¹⁵¹

Nachomamma8(1)

~ Wisdom⁹⁷


Not Voting (3): Goodies³⁰, Nachomamma8¹⁸, Something_Smart⁸⁵

With 15 alive it takes 8 to decide.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-10-14 08:04:59)

[Shoshin]

i think your theory that they could be scum being coached to buddy me doesn't have legs, but i should point out that there is a small amount of supporting evidence for it, which is the "oh scum ceph is scary" post shoshin made. and i was weirded out by it at the time. i think this is less likely to be her trying to pocket me, though, than it is a possible response to some scumbuddy listing their impressions of every player and noting that i'm good.

The reason I said scum you was scary is because I don't feel confident reading you relative to other players in the game who have reputations for being scary scum (e.g. RC, who I feel much more confident reading), and because you play with a level of comfort that makes it hard to read your alignment. The idea that someone told me you were good scum is nonsense.

[Cephrir]

As someone who's never played with or even seen Nacho, what is Nacho like nine times out of ten?

I am not answering this stupid question

Play this game, dont rehash games that have already been played

Say what Ceph?
What’s wrong with meta? Sure this is a weird way of going about it; before someone enters the thread. But why so opposed to such a simple question?

i get irritated by useless questions

if you want meta, do it yourself. no one can effectively encapsulate someone else's personality in a single post and it wouldn't even be useful if they could.

[Cephrir]

like in terms of more compromise-y lynches i think that goodies is scummy but aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa to this game

It’s funny but I think if you knew my bro in his meta you’d be townreading him out the wazoo. But anyway; we’re not going to mainslip, not even for personal gain. Nice of us, innit?

Oh, i know who you are now.

If you’re right on who I am, meta me, then. I’m the easiest person to read there ever was.

why be anonymous if you're going to do things like this

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Something_Smart

I do

not

understand.
Where did this come from?

I’ll finish rereading tomorrow.

i think he's town. pls excuse my lack of relatable trajectory. i just reassessed who i might like to vote for after i decided not to vote for shoshin.

[Celestial Coordinates]

I still think that if she were town she'd be trying to change my read on her and sort my push on her as opposed to doing what she's doing, which is effectively playing the crowd.
On a related note, I think that due to said playing the crowd it will be essentially impossible to lynch her.

As of right now I'd suggest doing something like Gameplay/Wisdom.

[Celestial Coordinates]

It should be really obvious that she's trying to keep me at arms length and that's part of a long pattern of players in the game trying to push me away and keep me off balance.
It's making it very difficult for me to enjoy or engage with the game and I don't think that it's accidental; I know some townies in this game who do that as a matter of course but.

[Cephrir]

@nacho thanks for the positivity.

i am starting to get towards wisdom-town, which makes me want to baton him. (oo look at my scary anti-CC scum agenda)

[Celestial Coordinates]

Instead, I'd suggest that if either of us lives to 3p LyLo we should die there instantly.

@nacho thanks for the positivity.

i am starting to get towards wisdom-town, which makes me want to baton him. (oo look at my scary anti-CC scum agenda)

that's unfortunate. if you townread Shoshin you should put more than a little faith in her read there.

[Cephrir]

Like, if he read someone correctly 100% of the time so far as he states, assuming that he'll get it wrong this time is a gambler'a fallacy.

No one is assuming anything we're just playing mafia

I'd appreciate it if you could join the rest of us in not making assumptions. you're making an ass out of u and mptions.

[Shoshin]

I still think that if she were town she'd be trying to change my read on her and sort my push on her as opposed to doing what she's doing, which is effectively playing the crowd.

To be clear, I'm very much trying to sort RC's push on me. I just don't have any desire to engage with him when he's being like this, especially since he's made no attempt to talk with me about the game at all when I tried.

[Shoshin]

i am starting to get towards wisdom-town, which makes me want to baton him. (oo look at my scary anti-CC scum agenda)

Why town Wisdom?

[Shoshin]

As of right now I'd suggest doing something like Gameplay/Wisdom.

I think it's somewhat absurd that RC calls me scum while basically sheeping my reads.

[Celestial Coordinates]

As of right now I'd suggest doing something like Gameplay/Wisdom.

I think it's somewhat absurd that RC calls me scum while basically sheeping my reads.

Gameplay was my read first and Wisdom has been scummy.
I also don't think that's absurd at all. What

should

I be doing, that's not that?

[Cephrir]

By the way. I hate it when people worship RC as much as the next guy (though not many people have done it this game). But I'm really surprised at the number of people going "I don't understand RC's case on Shoshin so I'm going to ignore it and trust my own read there instead."

Like, I thought it was well-known that RC's ability to form good reads far outweighs his ability to explain them.

SS do you have a single townread

My earlier stated townreads on Gay Dance, Cephrir and Nacho still hold (though the Cephrir one specifically ignores RC for the moment because if I take RC into account I have no idea where it ends up).

You might be town too.

who are the three people youd kill if you had to choose right now? @s_s

That's not a helpful question.

Shoshin and Cephrir, and if Shoshin flips town then CC, otherwise Goodies.

UNVOTE:
Please explain this progression to me

[Celestial Coordinates]

UNVOTE:
Please explain this progression to me

It's burden of proficiency on me. It has long been espoused as the best way to read me, besides reading my hydra partners. I believe they already explained it.

[Shoshin]

BoP isn't the best way to read RC, and town RC would never be okay with saying that.

[Shoshin]

When did Wisdom become scummy to you, RC?

[Celestial Coordinates]

BoP isn't the best way to read RC, and town RC would never be okay with saying that.

never

? I don't care about my winrate in hydra games. I am perfectly fine going for a high percentage play that isn't the absolute highest percentage play.

When did Wisdom become scummy to you, RC?

When he started calling me locktown in a way that feels really fake trumped up and like he's trying to tie himself to me using extra words.

[Something_Smart]

Please explain this progression to me

What RC said.

If RC is town, his reads are probably good, even though he can't explain why he has them.

Conversely, if his strong scumreads flip town, it makes him likely scum.

[Shoshin]

When he started calling me locktown in a way that feels really fake trumped up and like he's trying to tie himself to me using extra words.

This feels like something you got from me.

[Celestial Coordinates]

This feels like something you got from me.

Did you say this?

[Celestial Coordinates]

Nope, you definitely didn't say that. Why did you think that I got it from you?