Baton Pass [Game Over!]

ISO · Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:15 am

In post 1417, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1416, Cephrir wrote:i somehow like that post despite/because of it being mostly unintelligible
Which post?

1404

gameplay506 · Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:20 am

Ok lol
I anticipated this so I started doing the next one with quotes

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:21 am

In post 1426, gameplay506 wrote:Ok lol
I anticipated this so I started doing the next one with quotes

you anticipated what?

gameplay506 · Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:27 am

It being hard to read

YukzYuk · Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:34 am

Why does shoshin get the benefit of the doubt on the wisdom read and I don't gameplay?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:35 am

My problem isn't that it's hard to read - hate the format, but can follow it just fine. My problem is that you aren't really saying anything that you seem to care about/all of your observations seem like they're completely disconnected from one another.

Like, if you're town here and go through 10 pages, I'd expect 1 of 2 things. The first is that you find something that grabs you and it's something that you push and make your voice heard while the second is that you don't find anything that interesting and so you don't spend an hour or whatever creating a post saying that you didn't really find anything. The main point that your post seems to serve is demonstrating to us that you're trying to catch up which is nice and I appreciate it but also has a stronger scum motivation than a town one.

Does that make sense?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:35 am

@gameplay obviously

Celestial Coordinates · Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:37 am

gameplay is pretty much outed atp I think?

also heavily scumreading Cephrir townreading two slots that I think are scummy and transparently so but that goes away if my reads are wrong I guess

YukzYuk · Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:38 am

CC how confident are you still in ceph and shoshin being s-s

Celestial Coordinates · Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:39 am

In post 1433, YukzYuk wrote:CC how confident are you still in ceph and shoshin being s-s

i was always more interested in seeing reactions to it than i was committed to either read but i did scumread both individually at the time.

YukzYuk · Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:40 am

What about now?

Celestial Coordinates · Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:42 am

Cephrir read has gotten worse, Shoshin read is undecided.

YukzYuk · Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:44 am

Is this you faking with your reads or you speaking honestly because I want to use Ceph as a proxy flip before considering flipping shoshin

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:50 am

In post 1437, YukzYuk wrote:Is this you faking with your reads or you speaking honestly because I want to use Ceph as a proxy flip before considering flipping shoshin

what does this even mean
what does ceph flipping town tell you?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:50 am

what does ceph flipping scum tell you?

Celestial Coordinates · Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:51 am

My brain is really weird and messed up and it's hard to put out reads in terms of chronological thought in the sense that you want to hear them.
I think I latched onto Cephrir/Shoshin for a reason and I would say that >90% of the time at least one of them is scum and I'll stand by that.
But I'm not feeling or seeing whatever I saw at the time that made me lead there. I still see the case for Cephrir individually that I was underplaying for not so good reasons.

what does this even mean
what does ceph flipping town tell you?

I only have his reputation to go on. Do you think Cephrir is a strong enough town player that him continually having wrong reads is in and of itself worth lynching him for?

YukzYuk · Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:51 am

Ceph is someone I lean scum on and am okay with flipping.

I do agree Ceph shoshin interactions are weird so if I'm going to flip shoshin I want to see red on Ceph first

Celestial Coordinates · Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:52 am

Also, yukyukz is surface level scummy but I feel very strongly that they are town in spite of that for reasons.

Oh · Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:52 am

In post 1185, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1183, Something_Smart wrote:What's wrong with it?
It feels like because Nancy managed to fool people for most of HW, people like me, should take longer to TR the slot, that's just paranoia, nothing more, and I decided that I'd stop falling to paranoia every single time a strong scum player is in the playerlist, It's not fun when people decide to not TR you out of paranoia, i've experienced it before, and I hate it.

What.

I was trying to tell GDGW that he couldn't base a solid logical argument off of assumptions like the one above. I don't particularly CARE if you're townreading RC right now as far as this post is concerned, I want people to not take RC is town as a fact and then try to base a logical argument off of it based on a day 1 town read on Nancy who hasn't done anything particularly towny at all.

CONTEXT.
MATTERS.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:52 am

In post 930, YukzYuk wrote:The only way I'm going to be okay with sheeping a nullread is if you are willing to take a BoP.

And even then I'm not sure if I'm okay with that.

who was the nullread here?

Celestial Coordinates · Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:53 am

In post 1443, Oh wrote:I was trying to tell GDGW that he couldn't base a solid logical argument off of assumptions like the one above. I don't particularly CARE if you're townreading RC right now as far as this post is concerned, I want people to not take RC is town as a fact and then try to base a logical argument off of it based on a day 1 town read on Nancy who hasn't done anything particularly towny at all.

You cannot sort me effectively without showing me good faith and working with me as if I'm town and testing the results of that. can't be done.

YukzYuk · Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:53 am

CC was the null

ISO · Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:54 am

In post 1440, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I still see the case for Cephrir individually that I was underplaying for not so good reasons.

Have you made this case?

Oh · Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:54 am

In post 1191, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1189, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1187, Sakura Hana wrote:Speaking of that, Wisdom going now out of his way to prove this wrong is kinda weird.
um
gif kept asking for it
Oh yeah, i forgot he asked specifically for at least a single instance of T-T where he scumread her.
However, you keep pushing it as a "he read her wrong once so he's wrong here too." after that (i think?)

I think you missed the part of the game where GDGW tried to take day 1 reads and present them as objectively unassailable assumptions to build a logical argument off of. You should go read those pages again because you're taking a lot of stuff out of context.

Celestial Coordinates · Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:55 am

One of the biggest reasons that I scumread Wisdom actually is that he keeps putting rule of 3s with like Yukyukz/SS/Gameplay then he had a second one which I forget but it also had one of yukyukz/SS and he has gone to great lengths casing everyone in all the rules of 3 except the one that I actually scumread, ie gameplay.

Have you made this case?

I have not and I actually don't want to see you lynched today regardless.