Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Iconeum]

You're not showing us what's on your mind. Why not?

You have the misconception that I'm faking what I wrote about you

Absolutely not. I think you thought what you wrote about me was very clever. I just also think you were posting it without actually evaluating my alignment, and posted it to make me look worse and get yourself onto the wagon rather than to get a firmer read on me.

I don't know if it's clever, but I think it's right. Not evaluating your allignment isn't true, because it made me switch reads on you.

[the worst]

You've also seen my scumgame and I think you're aware that I do things with motivation, rather than hamfistedly saying things that will make me look as stupid and vulnerable as possible. So again, what do you consider my motivation? Getting a mastina lynch? Then why am I not pushing it?

Getting a PB lynch? Then why did I try to engage with him and why am I not pushing him?

Why am I doing all of this and then also Shading Menalque and Dannflor, the latter of whom you're townreading and presumably I've hard pocketed?

Like you're saying my evil scumplay this phase is:
- enter thread
- attack pocketed dannflor for no reason
- pivot on Mastina because I need the mislynch but then leave her for later (???)
- shade PB for no reason
- pick a fight with Maria to ?mislynch?her?

conversely I've entered this phase, laid down 3 reads I'm reconsidering, and I'm posting what I'm feeling.

Which ones more likely dragon? And if it's the former why are you unable to show me which posts of mine concerned you and what agenda you think I was pushing?

[the worst]

ok true but why does that come before explaining trajectory on a single read which you were super passionate about before your meeting?

Well, I was super passionate about my read on you during my D4 read. Your mastina post pinged me a LOT, and I think it comes from scum!you.

Can't see scum!me bothering
Say Mastina is town and I've successfully lazily townbinned her

I have a shitload of people in this game I can push

I have people you think are town pocketed

The fuck do I pivot on a townread I spoke emotiveky of in d3? I still don't think you're actually showing why you think this comes from scum!me. The soft implication above that this is my scum meta is literally nonsense. Also something something meta sucks something something: show me why I'm doing it in this game. Not why you think it might be in my scumrange.

This meta take focuses on a ~possibility~ when I know that you're capable of assessing me at face value on the probability of my motives being scum. You're not doing this. It reads like a mislynch attempt.

[the worst]

Look at my language and look at me going off at someone tryna mislynch me. I feel like Q1 2019 town!worst.

I'm chilled, promise. We just need to go like 3 levels deeper very quickly if you're town, and you're laying in a wading pool.

[Iconeum]

okay before i *try* to answer that, I can shoot this back at you

why does scum!dragon, who had a townread on you and was not active enough to deserve a townread himself this game, come out of the gates D4 'to hop on worst wagon'.
There are alternatives, hell there's even no need for scum to be on a wagon right now or any day soon. Do you think I didn't realize what I could bring upon myself by posting that?

what is my scum motivation in doing so?

[Iconeum]

You've also seen my scumgame and I think you're aware that I do things with motivation, rather than hamfistedly saying things that will make me look as stupid and vulnerable as possible. So again, what do you consider my motivation? Getting a mastina lynch? Then why am I not pushing it?

Getting a PB lynch? Then why did I try to engage with him and why am I not pushing him?

Why am I doing all of this and then also Shading Menalque and Dannflor, the latter of whom you're townreading and presumably I've hard pocketed?

Like you're saying my evil scumplay this phase is:
- enter thread
- attack pocketed dannflor for no reason
- pivot on Mastina because I need the mislynch but then leave her for later (???)
- shade PB for no reason
- pick a fight with Maria to ?mislynch?her?

conversely I've entered this phase, laid down 3 reads I'm reconsidering, and I'm posting what I'm feeling.

Which ones more likely dragon? And if it's the former why are you unable to show me which posts of mine concerned you and what agenda you think I was pushing?

I'm very very much aware about you and motivation. And yes, I think a mastina lynch is in the world of possibilities. I think it's very much possible that Pine in his forest has ordered his minions to set up a lynch on mastina today. You aren't pushing there now, but by posting that you have set up justification for a vote there later.

Again, I was wrong (because of eagerness) on your PB 'push'.

[the worst]

Which other wagon do you go to here? Honest question. I don't think you can successfully coast much longer as either alignment so I don't think the fact you opportunistically bit at my wagon rather than someone else's is all that material. It's the way you did it that's alarming me.

This is a deflection of the fact I want your trajectory on scumreading my D4 btw. Get on with it dude

[Iconeum]

Well it's D4 and I haven't really been playing the game yet, saying I can't coast as either allignment is accurate sure.

I already did that trajectory thing or else I don't know what you want exactly

[Iconeum]

if you think i'm scum show me your thought process in realtime.

no problem

i read the 12ish pages from D4

First I see ducky having a 180 read on Mastina, based on posts made during a time where ducky called mastina 'outside of scumrange'. I know you can change reads, that's not my point. But you are otherwise very adamant on these things, and it's odd to me that you switched your read around when the scumtalk was going on about Mastina, which makes me read it as you setting up a justification for a later vote there.

Your engagement with PB also doesn't fall well with me, and I think it's 'beneath' you to call someone out on timing.
I can see this is a misread by me, but the Mastina read isn't.

Oh is that what you meant with posting an empty readlist prior to talking about you?

I made this post, which I consider a reply to trajectory thingy, prior to said meeting.

[Iconeum]

I read here that my entrance D4 is scummy as ****, but that's exactly what I think of the duck's opening.

[the worst]

What do you think is the towniest part of your response over the last couple of pages?

[Iconeum]

nothing apparently

[Iconeum]

i wasn't really posting with the intent of looking townie, but if you truly want me to quote something i can go back and look

[Menalque]

Ducky, why do you think icon can’t coast much longer as either alignment? The two leading wagons/candidates were you + mariaR (and mastina is probably still in the mix too). Why could the dragon just stay in the background while those wagons built?

[the worst]

i wasn't really posting with the intent of looking townie, but if you truly want me to quote something i can go back and look

What's he done for the last two phases?

[the worst]

i wasn't really posting with the intent of looking townie, but if you truly want me to quote something i can go back and look

[the worst]

failed sorry. yes please.

[Menalque]

Also did you ever get back about 8491

Also @pops I didn’t understand your last question/comment related to me. Like I say you’re shading me (which you are, by not looking at the context around my request for fruit D1 vs the recent requests today/yesterday) and you say that by bringing that up you’ll have to take me out of your townbin if you start to like me? I don’t get it

“Would you rather me like you or be in my townbloc?” I legit don’t get it

[the worst]

8491 I think is a really interesting take but I'm not decided how to feel about it yet. Gth it's probably towny. Any lead on who scum in that block is?

[Menalque]

I’m not sure but I’d lean dann in the first one and mariaR in the second

If mariaR flipped town I’d have more doubts about Titus who I’m walking a fine line on is incredibly town or is scum who is entirely running the game

[the worst]

I need to run but basically big mood yeah

[Iconeum]

okay before i *try* to answer that, I can shoot this back at you

why does scum!dragon, who had a townread on you and was not active enough to deserve a townread himself this game, come out of the gates D4 'to hop on worst wagon'.
There are alternatives, hell there's even no need for scum to be on a wagon right now or any day soon. Do you think I didn't realize what I could bring upon myself by posting that?

what is my scum motivation in doing so?

here ducky

[Titus]

@Melanque, What are the odds in your opinion of me being wrong town?

Also, now that Maria posted her read wall, I have a theory if she flips scum. Icon is possible scum in it, but that's the only uncertain category.

[Alisae]

Icon how is the worst scum in this interaction?

[Titus]

Let's apply the rule of 3 to this.

We get

1 of pops Krazy or FB. My money is on Krazy or FB based on today. Krazy might be RL vanished.
1 of Gamma or Katsuki. Katsuki could be a coast after bussing. Gamma seems to be trying.
1 of this category but not Dann.
Penguin Power

Spoiler: Guess

FB, Katsuki, Icon (solely bc PB reached out as sketchy as it was), PP

Something_Smart
popsofctown
Krazy
Firebringer


Titus
Gamma Emerald
Katsuki


GreyICE
Menalque
Dannflor
Pink Ball
Iconeum


PenguinPower
the worst
mastina