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[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Fuck, i thought I posted in the wrong game, but JJD did

No I didn't. I included a link to that game, so this post was intended for this thread.

[bob3141]

Alonzo what was your reasoning behind your blank votes on garmr and tchill?

[bob3141]

infact you did even give your reasoning behind your first post. Your vote on me.

Even when pressed in your post 2123 you only said you had me and few others as scum at glance. But nothing backing it up. no why, no nothing.

You even havnt tried to scum hunt at all since you joined. How mnay players have you actualy tried to interact with

[Alonzo]

VOTE: Bob

[Alonzo]

Garmr stood out a bit on my day one re read, but IV isod since and softened my stance.

Tchill is only not getting a vote because of his claim, everything else seems dodgy about him.

[Hopkirk]

Garmar is pretty blatantly town and is a dumb wagon.

[Hopkirk]

UNVOTE: Tchill

Not sure if I buy it, but it gets resolved after enough flips.

[Hopkirk]

I could give education/advice on how to properly use a voyeur as town. Suffice it to say that the claimed result wasn't it.
I could also give advice on how to fakeclaim things to protect a mason, and that wasn't it either.

Team scum would have partners to give advice. Isn't it possible they would try to exploit a team member's meta to try to pass doctor phishing off as silly townie?

@Tchill have you explained Hopkirk? If not, can you?

basically that he's just attacking avenues that dont make sense. I'd expect much more from hop than ive seen. very surprised that he was pushing me (when im inactive i tend to make reads based on my slot objectively. i see my slot as an inactive slot, not my own slot. So this isnt OMGUS. This is basing hops interactions on an inactive slot)

After 150 posts I prefer to call it 'active lurking' to 'inactive'.

[bob3141]

Garmr stood out a bit on my day one re read, but IV isod since and softened my stance.

Tchill is only not getting a vote because of his claim, everything else seems dodgy about him.

but what seems dodgy to you about Tchill?

What made garmr stick out on your day one read and what made you soften your stance?


Yet another post with no actual substance, nothing backing it up. Nothing that doesnt shows that you havnt simply plucked your reads out of thin air. And that leaves yor simply looking like opportunistic scum.


What are your rest of your reads. As i see you only have 3-4 hollow reads. What do you want to ask of the many different players in this game. I dont see you even trying to look for scum. 18 other players alive and you have asked at most one question.

[Hopkirk]

infact you did even give your reasoning behind your first post. Your vote on me.

Even when pressed in your post 2123 you only said you had me and few others as scum at glance. But nothing backing it up. no why, no nothing.

You even havnt tried to scum hunt at all since you joined. How mnay players have you actualy tried to interact with

Are you sure this is a scumtell? I'm fairly certain it's not.

[Hopkirk]

Hectic, Bob, and Garmar are superobv town.
I'm going to reread some stuff.

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: Gobbledygook

[Garmr]

@Garmr:

can you walk me through the case against Dave because I'm not really seeing it.

Sorry got side tracked I will do a tldr because people don't listen to me when I write paragraphs explaining the details. If you want me to expand on specific bits I can.

Points to do with me

1.A Tried to claim he was the one getting me posting. which read like look at me I'm doing something townie.1079

2. this continues on from 1 a bit but

4.I town read Elements

now I don't want to go into it because it involves set up speculation

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he mentions my post and indicates his been reading them but when I claim vouyer he acts like there's nothing there and throws shade on it by saying are voyours in the game anymore.

3.He tip toes around calling me scum in post 2079 with out saying it out straight. The reasons he uses don't actually apply to me this game. I don't need town cred because I was being town read.

4.

Posting almost exclusively things that look town motivated
Garmr

If he had such a strong town read day 1 of me why did it change so fast when I gambled on trying to save carlily. This looks like opportunistic scum

5. Says town don't claim out of no where literally has no reason that applies to me to scum read it and we had three claim two confirmed (masons) 1 not confirmed but probably is doctor. Dave makes a special exception of me becuase he thinks he can push a easy lynch through he isn't aware I survived worse scenarios as town.

Things that don't involve me

1.He had no issues believing in Tchills claim despite Scum reading them through out the game. He doesn't second guess himself either This indicates to me he comes from a place of knowing.

2. Stayed clear of both elements and cliff booth despite scum reading cliff and putting elements in his not town motivated posting. He opened himself to lynch both but didn't make a decision despite being active.


3. Despite a lot of post he doesn't have many very solid stances. Like the closet to commitment he has is his vote on me and it's badly played with little to no pushes at all. If he was hunting you think he would commit to one thing and actually push.

This post is free for other to acknowledge as well. Tell me if you agree and what with or disagree and why you disagree?

[Hopkirk]

How should I feel about Profii/Dave/Gobble/Kop?

[Hopkirk]

Superobvtowning: Hectic, Carcalilly, Bob, Garmr
Obvtowning: JJD, Cliff, Gamma, Rick, Billy

Seems about right?

[Hopkirk]

Tex looks town if Tchill is. I'm going to assume he is for now. Hey Tchill, were your crumbs intentional or not?

[Hopkirk]

That leaves to look at:
Kop
Alonzo
EeveeLution Army
Titus
gobbledygook
davesaz
profii
AaronFrost

Give me a hand with this later Hectic.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

UNVOTE: UNVOTE:

People quickly hopping between wagons doesn't really impress me, nor does it help me get reads

[Tchill13]

Enquiry to Tchill:

What was your read on YAG/Texcat end of day 1?
Why not track your scumreads?

Should counterclaim this if you're a tracker. Very unlikely there's a watcher and 2 trackers in game.
Never mind, this is a Large game and duplicates are possible, disregard that. (I've read that it's good to leave stuff like this in your posts, as town are more likely to change their mind, so you can get some insight into my towny thought process and really stamp me in as a Survivor.)

Thanks, Garmr.

YAG was an SR.

[Tchill13]

Why have 5 PRs claimed by day 2?
I may reading the wrong wiki, but that doesn't seem like optimal play. Why did you claim, Garmr?
What do you mean by you were paranoid he was a ninja?
Why does you being a voyeur make Elements' claim any more believable to you? Every Large game is gonna have investigatives, so your voyeur shouldn't change your perception on whether Elements was fakeclaiming or not.

Tchill's done this thing again where's he said something along the lines of "give me a bit/second" and then come back with a PR claim. Did this in a previous game with me where he was scum. Though, overall, he feels different enough this game, he effort posted a lot more in that game, especially towards the end. He hasn't done much here.

man i wish you could catch scum off one phrase.

[Tchill13]

Why have 5 PRs claimed by day 2?
I may reading the wrong wiki, but that doesn't seem like optimal play. Why did you claim, Garmr?
What do you mean by you were paranoid he was a ninja?
Why does you being a voyeur make Elements' claim any more believable to you? Every Large game is gonna have investigatives, so your voyeur shouldn't change your perception on whether Elements was fakeclaiming or not.

Tchill's done this thing again where's he said something along the lines of "give me a bit/second" and then come back with a PR claim. Did this in a previous game with me where he was scum. Though, overall, he feels different enough this game, he effort posted a lot more in that game, especially towards the end. He hasn't done much here.

Element is dead he flipped watcher his town.

I got paranoid when it looked like he was fishing for roles thinking he may be a ninja (or someone on his team) trying to fish me out but decided that Tchill was the better lynch after Elements claimed and I refrained from commenting on it because I didn't want to out myself.

@Tchill
Just read back at your reaction. What were you thinking being so certain elements was lying you said you were tracker right. Didn't you think jeez ,my role synergizes with his he could be town or did the fishing put you off a bit like me.

elememts is shit d1 as town or scum. Seemed very surrealistic to me. I didnt care about the possible synergy. I really dont theorize setup because i disagree with how mods run and balance this site.

[Tchill13]

Garmr stood out a bit on my day one re read, but IV isod since and softened my stance.

Tchill is only not getting a vote because of his claim, everything else seems dodgy about him.

amateur.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

UNVOTE: UNVOTE:

People quickly hopping between wagons doesn't really impress me, nor does it help me get reads

UNVOTE:

[Tchill13]

Tex looks town if Tchill is. I'm going to assume he is for now. Hey Tchill, were your crumbs intentional or not?

the one about texcat not doing nothing was intentional.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

GDI..

UN-UNBLOODY-VOTE

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