Open 768: C9++ [GAME OVER]

[teacher]

and pagetop

[Bingle]

But Im generally of Mena's view. Skit's not going to be a D1 option absent some true weirdness for me. And Im def not there yet. But I appreciate you going back.

Yarp. Like I said, I lose this 1v1, but I think it's important that it happens.

[the worst]

you're townier than skitter bungle

[skitter30]

Not in the slightest

[Bingle]

You're in a unique position to see that, since a big portion of her countercase is that I'm doing this to derail a lynch on you.

Either you're town and you know it's a shit argument or you're scum and you know it's a argument.

[the worst]

how so?

[skitter30]

Skit, explain the nibs read? Fumuki-san has always troubled me, so Id like some walk through.

Imma do this tomorrow, if that's ok

I realized i'm running a fever so i'm just going to go to sleep now :/

[teacher]

good health. We have plenty of time (though I appreciate Bingle pointing out they essentially asked for the same a bit ago as well). Feel better!

[Bingle]

how so?

Town you knows I'm not chainsawing a partner here. At most I'm wk-ing, but intentionally drawing a wagon to derail a townie's lynch is stupid, and that's what the argument says I'm doing.

Scum you knows I'm not on your scumteam.

[Bingle]

I realized i'm running a fever so i'm just going to go to sleep now :/

Feel better, I'll link your towncase from earlier.

[the worst]

like
i'm town. you're placing a bizarrely high onus on me to do towny things. doing towny things early d1 is +survivalism and in this gamestate -sorting. so it's not valuable for me to do towny things early d1.
you're then attacking me for... not doing towny things with no wariness of what my motivation might be.

if you're town you probably need to reevaluate this read because you're policy tunnelling me; you don't seem to be reevaluating it and bungle is creating friction in the gamestate clearly-intentionally - and you're interpreting that as a scum driven activity?

so 2/3 scum in this game are... intentionally drawing as much attention to themselves as possible, without doing anything to look like they're towny, with the result of the gamestate advancing rapidly and neither of these alleged scumslots coming out of it looking tonwy?

this is super level 1 logic skitter, if you want to admit you don't **actually** think you'll successfully lynch either of us now is probs the time

[Bingle]

Spoiler:

Glancing at ISOs I'm a little surprised you call yourself a spamposter. What makes you think you qualify for the title.

I'm usually the top poster if people like tw or RC aren't in the game

and even when they are, if we're gonna count words instead of posts I'm pretty confident I can win often

my posts are longer than theirs usually, but more or less at the same frequency

I got more laidback nowadays though...

...

I think.

townie for him

This game is so laidback rn that it's like...

precious.

i'm gonna take a screenshot and post "do you feel old yet?" when we start post-game rants about who is to blame for the mislynches.

townie for him

ok my early read on ceejay plan failed

VOTE: duck

what are you serious about? let me get through your bird head

i like the vote at this time

UNVOTE:

I feel like I'm the only one tryharding and it's just sad

townie for him

Just logged in morning to check real quick

Hey everyone!

irrelephant, TTTT, urap and friends disliked this post

How did Nibbui feel about it?

NAI

A couple of initial reactions:

Nibbui: Damn boi, you talk a lot of garbage.

By garbage you mean my early reads/reaching is bs in your pov or i just post too much noise?

don't count on it Nor, Mr. Bbui is tragically scum aligned.

VOTE: the worst

You had asked me how i feel about your wagon now that I think about it and the answer is Bingle might or not have a reason and the rest are sheeping bc of, idk, wagons?

This is actually a more serious vote though

In most normal-lenght games I think you begin by SR'ing me along with some people and gradually it changes to a TR, but here I think you're just trying to emulate that behavior bc you think I would get sus if you started town leaning me too easy

If this is a joke you're just again being kind of dismissive to me trying to reach/engage you and in a more "bad-faith" way than before

I'm not even as cheeky as I used to in my op posts so I don't think you have any real reason to what you're doing rn. it just feels forced/fake.

No, actually you’ve explained why you think ducky is scum, mostly based on meta with you

I want you to explain why he’s being anti-town in what he’s doing

Hmm, I don't think I can explain why duck is more likely scum than town to me rn without using meta

from a objective pov you can say something like "he is not making a effort to engage or explain what he is thinking" but that's more about being ""protown"" than being actually town or scum.

what is irking me is essentially the fact that i don't see why duck wouldn't act otherwise here.

It's a pretty personal read you could say.

this explanation of his tw townread was ridiculously townie

i think skitter is giving town reads a bit too easy but i don't really remember much of how she usually is in that regard

jingle what's your read on me and tw

at least give me that to work with

i like that he's questioning you and tw here

don't out it yet skitter

too early for a real wagon

anyway, I just felt like Wicked was only coming to thread to ask pointless questions to apparently random people he picks up, not really getting on what is being discussed, while also vaguely talking about the game state. I wanted to see how long he would do it without being called out for bc that would directly impact to my confidence on my read there.

It was like when I called skygazer or montosh too early for what they were doing wrong, and couldn't give a good enough case or get that much confident on what i had

this whole wicked thing was v similar to how i was reading him, but came through a different, but believeable and natural thought process.

this is one of the things that made me feel like he's approaching the thread the same way as me - he came to the same conclusion using a slightly different set of reference points, and thus approached it differently, but it was the same read

this is the one that made me feel like he's approaching the game similarly to me ^

and i think around here i declared him a strong townread iirc

@jingle

pedit good god just wait a few minutes

[the worst]

indeed bungle might be WKing me but tackling you head-on when you're playing this hard is also a fucking bizarre decision if it's a scum-motivated one

[teacher]

ceejay, Egix, Blatant - nothing, and I do mean nothing, you have said has stuck with me to this point. Id love for your thoughts on any one of the following:

A. Nibs's post generally
B. Mena's reason to TL flippy (176)
C. Bingle's case on Skit
D. TW's intereactions with Bingle
E. Norway's attempt to force a read onto me

TY.

[teacher]

@Bingle - thanks. I meant more "why" townie for him. Its comments like that that I was intending by my too much meta-reading comment earlier tonight.

[Bingle]

I asked that too teach, although not as nicely. This was the response I got.

i was talking about 108/134

also i don't know how to explain it better than 'feels townie for him'

a) not knowing how to articulate things at this moment doesn't negate the read
b) nibbui is a strong townread. the fact that he comes worse off in a spat about incompatible playstyles doesn't change the read
c) what is it telling of, pray tell?

[the worst]

his initial vote is >rand scum, i don't think his unvote/reeval/revote manoeuvre in itself is actually town indicative (it's either town tryna sort me or scum tryna work out if i'm lynchable) but his suggestion that i was emulating my usual read on him was pretty critical and interesting

also think he's advancing the gamestate in interesting ways

skitter towncase above feels TMI but there's some credit in there

[the worst]

just for posterity i am weakly townreading nibbui

[the worst]

actually if skitter is leaning heavily into meta i think it's really strange she's decided to push me hard d1 - i'm actually emulating my confirmable-TPR meta

[Bingle]

his initial vote is >rand scum, i don't think his unvote/reeval/revote manoeuvre in itself is actually town indicative (it's either town tryna sort me or scum tryna work out if i'm lynchable) but his suggestion that i was emulating my usual read on him was pretty critical and interesting

also think he's advancing the gamestate in interesting ways

skitter towncase above feels TMI but there's some credit in there

who is he?

[the worst]

nibz

[Wickedestjr]

Only got through pg. 23. Not gonna finish this catchup tonight.

[the worst]

think it's probably more interesting interacting in realtime than catching up on massive amounts of pages

how are your reads comin along?

[Wickedestjr]

Yeah I had to stop reading because I was starting to lose focus.

I'm feeling pretty good about Menalque and skitter.

Right now, I've got my eye on teacher and Bingle - probably gonna vote one of them once I am fully caught up.

[the worst]

what's got you sussing teacher & Bingle?