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Post Post #3075 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:45 am

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In post 3071, Hopkirk wrote:To repost the list of my townreads:
If this is a "repost" then what post is it reposted from?
If you're just giving a reason for the people on the previous list then thanks but don't call it a repost.

I'll be happy to read this btw. Just asking a quick question before I do that.
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Post Post #3076 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:48 am

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Pedit:
(Less neutral players my scumreads are pushing enough that I'm leaving them for now)- I think there's 2 in this category

There was 0 in this catagory at the time.

I'll break it down for you if you're still having trouble there.
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Post Post #3077 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:53 am

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Townreads: Hectic, Carcalilly, Garmr, bob3141, Rick, Cliff, Billy, JJD
New addition from scumpool to town: AaronFrost
Claims: Tchill + Proffi (new addition since previous list)

And would you just look at what that leaves us. It’s my list from earlier with Aaron and Proffi removed since the situation has directly changed there.
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It’s almost like it’s me presenting my townreads then doing POE to make a list of potential scum.
Gosh that must be why it was labelled LIST OF PEOPLE TO LOOK AT.
Gosh, it's odd that you're saying my POE LIST OF PEOPLE TO LOOK AT is a SCUMLIST when I definitely never presented it as that.
It’s almost like it’s completely idiot proof and you’d have to be shit at reading, or reading maliciously to not understand what POEing down into a scumpool is.
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Post Post #3078 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:55 am

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In post 3075, davesaz wrote:
In post 3071, Hopkirk wrote:To repost the list of my townreads:
If this is a "repost" then what post is it reposted from?
If you're just giving a reason for the people on the previous list then thanks but don't call it a repost.

I'll be happy to read this btw. Just asking a quick question before I do that.
It's a repost of my previous list of townread. That's what the repost part means. You know which list I'm talking about since you've commented on it.
I've pointed out that I already explained my townreads for them, or for a couple of them added a few comments.

Since you're claiming I have a 'shit' list of townreads, you're going to be explaining which are so shit.
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Post Post #3079 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:56 am

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In post 3072, davesaz wrote:Is even for this game?
What's with all the blacked out spoiler?
Yeah, it's my updated read on Aaron. You'd probably get that if you fucking read it and noticed the fucking stuff I'm saying relates to this game instead of just trying to shade me.

If you read my next post you'll see that's meant to be hidden. It's copied from a spreadhseet to justify a couple of the comments.
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Post Post #3080 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:58 am

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In post 3008, davesaz wrote:Why you put a lot of people in your "would lynch" but don't case any of them?
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Post Post #3081 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:58 am

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Post Post #3082 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:59 am

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So hopkirk and hectic are both throwing a ton of gimmicks into their play to obscure being read by each other?

that doesn't make sense because only one of them would have to be worried about such a thing unless it's multiball and they're scum on different teams. Why would town be worried about how the other reads them?

Hectic is the one doing the most heavy gimmicks (even more than I have seen from him in the past). I wonder if this holds significance or if they're just town having fun
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Post Post #3083 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:59 am

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In post 3071, Hopkirk wrote:To repost the list of my townreads:

Hectic- I've played over 600 hours of mafia with him, hydraded with him involving long irl talks, and read him right on every forum game we've played (~4). We can read each other. You're attacking him for inactivity which I can vouch for irl. Your scumread here is shitty as hell.
My issue with Hectic has nothing to do with activity, and it isn't even a scumread per se. I detest all the non-game-relevant wiki shit regardless of who it's coming from. It makes me doubt everything he says. Is your background with him offsite? Would you expect town to just trust meta from somewhere else, not knowing the alignment of the meta source?
Carcalilly- Mason

Bob- I covered some stuff d1. You don't seem to disagree with this.

Garmr- He claimed. I townread him before then which I covered D1.
Yes, I townread Carcalilly without the facepalm Mason stuff.

Bob is kinda in between. I'm nowhere certain on him.

Garmr - My issue with Garmr is very in the open.
JJD- you say you townread him. I explain my townread day 1.
If town, good town. This is a player who can post what he's posting as scum. Therefore not a solid read.
Cliff - I covered d1 after a fairly long interaction.
Rick- you say you townread him. I think I covered my read d1, but it's largely from other people's meta on him.
I don't actually trust either of these. They could be town for reasons that are best left unsaid, but if those reasons aren't true then they're prime candidates for deepscum.
Billy- claim based townread at the moment.
Umm, is this the VT claim? I don't remember. I don't have a strong read either way.
What's so 'shit' about this list which you mostly agree with, and that I mostly covered beforehand?
The scumreads and lack of explanation regarding them. :P

I can see things have been posted while writing this. I'm gonna go ahead and submit and then read stuff.
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Post Post #3084 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:03 am

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In post 3077, Hopkirk wrote:It’s almost like it’s me presenting my townreads then doing POE to make a list of potential scum.
Gosh that must be why it was labelled LIST OF PEOPLE TO LOOK AT.
Gosh, it's odd that you're saying my POE LIST OF PEOPLE TO LOOK AT is a SCUMLIST when I definitely never presented it as that.
Nope, I'm not talking about your people to look at.
Where's your scumlist? And the reasons?
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Post Post #3085 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:05 am

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In post 3082, Cliff Booth wrote:So hopkirk and hectic are both throwing a ton of gimmicks into their play to obscure being read by each other?

that doesn't make sense because only one of them would have to be worried about such a thing unless it's multiball and they're scum on different teams. Why would town be worried about how the other reads them?

Hectic is the one doing the most heavy gimmicks (even more than I have seen from him in the past). I wonder if this holds significance or if they're just town having fun
Not even close. Hectic's had similar/more extreme gimmicks and I've seen him pick what gimmick he's going for before he gets his role pm. It's not AI.

My memeing definitely isn't enough to obscure any scumtells that actually involve how I post since my actual content hasn't changed- it's just had a lot of memery added on top. If Hectic has specifics there then they wouldn't be obscured unless I was only memeing. Doesn't help hide what I'd be so isn't relevant like you're suggesting.

We literally just finished a (town) game where we were hydraing where Hectic styled everything as police reports from 4 difference Officers, while half of my posts were signed by dead players in an attempt at copying how they post- claiming they'd joined our ghost army.
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Post Post #3086 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:06 am

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In post 3084, davesaz wrote:
In post 3077, Hopkirk wrote:It’s almost like it’s me presenting my townreads then doing POE to make a list of potential scum.
Gosh that must be why it was labelled LIST OF PEOPLE TO LOOK AT.
Gosh, it's odd that you're saying my POE LIST OF PEOPLE TO LOOK AT is a SCUMLIST when I definitely never presented it as that.
Nope, I'm not talking about your people to look at.
Where's your scumlist? And the reasons?
I never posted a scumlist. You're the one who said I posted a scumlist.

I posted a scumpool/POE pool and started voting people in it.
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Post Post #3087 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:07 am

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You know what I'm not looking for d2? Deepscum when we haven't lynched scum yet.

Plenty of people can be deepwolfing. That's not what I'm looking for.
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Post Post #3088 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:08 am

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Cliff isn't in my townpool anymore. Rick still is.
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Post Post #3089 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:09 am

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Cliff's been positioning to get on every wagon except Eevee. I don't like the shade he's been throwing me early game or now.
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Post Post #3090 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:11 am

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What's your scumpool look like right now Davey
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Post Post #3091 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:14 am

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like what kind of opportunistic shit even is this

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Post Post #3092 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:16 am

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Cliff Booth (8): Elements, Hopkirk, Gamma Emerald, Billy Pilgrim, Carcalilly, Hectic, tchill13

Pure as fuck.
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Post Post #3093 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:21 am

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Although based on that logic it is possible cliff could be scum but what makes you think you arnt wrong about any of those in that list

Shy do you not think one of the scum would have bussed cliff during that wagon
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Post Post #3094 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:22 am

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I'm town and I actually was actually coming to a conclusion in my last post how I would think it's more likely that hectic is scum over you but okay
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Post Post #3095 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:22 am

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Post Post #3096 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:22 am

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In post 3089, Hopkirk wrote:Cliff's been positioning to get on every wagon except Eevee. I don't like the shade he's been throwing me early game or now.
this is also entirely untrue. eat my shorts
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Post Post #3097 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:23 am

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the bit about me positioning to be on every wagon is bullshit and I demand receipts
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Post Post #3098 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:23 am

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Cliff Booth (8): x, Hopkirk, x, Billy Pilgrim, x, Hectic, tchill13

If cliff isnt scum I cant see all of the scum avoiding that wagon.

If cliff is scum i cant see all of teh scum not busing him. Since he was only at l-4
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Post Post #3099 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:26 am

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if alonzo wasn't obvscum or clear policy lynch material I would definitely be on the hopkirk wagon. Just want to make that clear.
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