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[skitter30]

i'm townreading nibbui, actually

[teacher]

^ I was about to quote that because I was pretty sure you were. Im not yet, and somewhat concerned about that since it seems to be a consensus. I liked the Egix case, but could see some other motivations for it as well, and didnt see the early game as town as others did.

[skitter30]

what are your concerns about nibbui?

[DrDolittle]

his norwegian interaction was pretty fine but his whiteknighting on skitt is icky

skitter is blatantly town, Nibs. The mere fact that Bingle is semi-tunneling her proves it. If you want more, ISO Bingle in this very thread and see where he admits his reads are notoriously bad as town. So, town!Bingle SRing skitter = skitter is town. Scum!Bingle pushing skitter = skitter is town. And that doesn't even include my own read skitter which I had acquired by reading her posts and searching for her "scum tricks" and none were found.

man this post makes very little sense. are you a 100 percent skitter reader

[skitter30]

the stuff about jingle isn't meant to make much sense
he's p good at reading me

[teacher]

Egix is somewhat lhf and could be way to (a) appear to be town/solvy, while (b) getting a lurking slot run up to a potential claim.

That said, Occam's suggests its just a legit case, especially since the logic is sound. I just dont read Nibs that well in general.

[Wickedestjr]

the problem is that i can't tell if it's scum-indicative or playstyle-indicative

Only one way to find out (it's the latter)

what i meant by that is more that i don't know how you got from ~beginning of game~ to ~readslist you posted~

Ehhh still not really understanding what you mean here, sorry. ~beginning of game~ I started at nothing. Then *things* happened and I posted my readslist which was based on those *things*. That's how I got from A to B.

[skitter30]

i meant more your concerns outside of the egix case, i guess

pedit @teacher

[skitter30]

Then *things* happened and I posted my readslist which was based on those *things*. That's how I got from A to B.

i know my point is that i didnt' see the journey from a to b.
i just see you arriving at b

so i'm a little wary because i don't see how you got there

[Wickedestjr]

teacher, please talk about this when you get the chance (if you haven't already)

The other thing that feels strange to me is this post. You were asked hypothetically how you would approach skitter if you were scum. It feels a little weird to me that you claim you would have approached her completely differently from how you actually approached her in this game.

Teacher

can you expand on why you would approach skitter the way you described there?

[Almost50]

i'm townreading nibbui, actually

Oh! My bad. half asleep already.

So, you TR Nibbui but he doesn't TR you back. Meanwhile you had a TR on Menalque but it's now fading. Did I get it right his time? And you also SR wicked and so does Nibbui??

[skitter30]

ya i think that's fairly accurate

[Bingle]

And a "side" problem is I have no experience with Nor or wicked, which means I can never be as confident on them either. But still, Nor looks town to me and wicked is "almost" a town read.

AFAIK, wicked hasn’t played in forever. Treat him like me when I first got back from hiatus and you’re probably close, although iirc he was less active and less manipulative than I am over all.

[teacher]

Without ISOing, I saw some self-comments to gain towncred (how much effort he was providing vs. board early, calling himself on shitposting). Its not that I had scumread them, just that I hadnt seen why people were townreading them. Like I said, Nibs is not a player I greatly understand, so it will take me a bit on that slot, and I was asking people to explain their reads and didnt get much (other than yours, via Bingle, a bit ago). I'm more null than concerned.

[skitter30]

teacher i think you may be scum

[teacher]

teacher, please talk about this when you get the chance (if you haven't already)

The other thing that feels strange to me is this post. You were asked hypothetically how you would approach skitter if you were scum. It feels a little weird to me that you claim you would have approached her completely differently from how you actually approached her in this game.

Teacher

can you expand on why you would approach skitter the way you described there?

Having played two semi-recent games with Skit (since July), both times I saw her react poorly to open buddying/hero-worship. She is suspicious of that as town, and mimics suspicion of that as scum. If we were scum buddies, I might do it to allow her to distance, but as scum without her I would not try to buddy her. I would work in a reference to her (because we have recent experience, and it would be wierd of me not to), but otherwise put her on my suspect list because if that was ever a potential early lynch, I would want to be able to help it along.

[the worst]

nothing's convincing me egix or wicked are town lol

feel slightly warm & fuzzy that skitter has the same wicked read as i did, that reminds me of the days when i used to agree w her a lot but was scared to voice my onions

[Bingle]

the stuff about jingle isn't meant to make much sense
he's p good at reading me

The stuff about me is NAI shadethrowing. He’s poking fun at me because it’s fun, but it’s something that would come from both town a50 and scum a50. Basically, he’s referring to the fact that I don’t trust my own reads and will try to solve a game through mechanics/gamestate over individual reads 9/10 times.

[DrDolittle]

Is it bad that I read 5 pages and found nothing to comment on?

HI.

I'M THE MILITARY DICTATOR NIBBUI TAKING THIS THREAD HOSTAGE

TODAY WE'RE PLAYING "LYNCHING SCUMMY SLOTS FOR RED FLIPS". IT'S A NICE AND FAMILY FRIENDLY GAME.

FOR EMPHASIS WE START PLAYING BY VOTING EGIX.

VOTE: EGIX

YOU CAN ALSO VOTE "UGGLY DOG" FOR MEME REASONS

VOTE: uggly dog

[Wickedestjr]

Then *things* happened and I posted my readslist which was based on those *things*. That's how I got from A to B.

i know my point is that i didnt' see the journey from a to b.
i just see you arriving at b

so i'm a little wary because i don't see how you got there

I had to think about this for a minute, but now I think I see what you're saying.

Why do I, as town, need to show the journey that my reads took throughout the game? The only thing that felt important was explaining where my reads are now and sharing my reasons for having said reads. I don't benefit at all from showing the path that each individual read took to get to that point.

I could share those details if you say, "yes Wicked please do that". But I'm going to sleep now.

[DrDolittle]

oh the reason is I skipped wicked's wall and 3 pages were dedicated to that. will get back to it later

[teacher]

teacher i think you may be scum

You generally think this. You generally are wrong.

I admit I havent gotten launched full speed into this game yet. But I think you just misread my non-newb style. I think Im playing like 2080.

[Almost50]

@tw: what onions? I ordered you with garlic! "Well done juicy duck breasts with garlic sauce" is what I said.

[Bingle]

[teacher]

I'm feeling this for RN.
VOTE: FlippyNips