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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:25 pm

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In post 1422, skitter30 wrote:I didnt even realize this game could have only two groupscum till rn
And I needed you to post this to realize it. Going to look over previous variants just so I can see what the dice rolls mean in context.
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:25 pm

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i'd forgotten that too :/
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:28 pm

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what does 2 group scum mean
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:30 pm

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only 2 scum if 5+ VTs
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:33 pm

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(No, I suppose it is if 5+VTs are rolled; additional VTs are added after rolling -- havent modded this setup).
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:59 pm

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The setup is pretty straightforward. Either we’re power light with a small scumteam or power heavy with a large scumteam. From any scum perspective, there’s a 50% chance exactly of there being an sk. Massclaim is likely d3 or 4, and should definitely be organized. It starts with PR/not PR, and then category, and then individual role. From a vt perspective it’s slightly more likely than not that there’s an sk, but it rounds to 50%. From a PR perspective it’s the opposite.

None of this bears discussion D1.
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:59 pm

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or somewhere between
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:04 pm

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In post 1427, DrDolittle wrote:what does 2 group scum mean
2 groupscum means only 2 max PRs and a 2/3 chance of sk. Double checking myself I realized the 50% from scums perspective was wrong, but it’s still functionally a 50% from any individual town player.
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:04 pm

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In post 1240, Nibbui wrote:HI.

I'M THE MILITARY DICTATOR NIBBUI TAKING THIS THREAD HOSTAGE

TODAY WE'RE PLAYING "LYNCHING SCUMMY SLOTS FOR RED FLIPS". IT'S A NICE AND FAMILY FRIENDLY GAME.

FOR EMPHASIS WE START PLAYING BY VOTING EGIX.

VOTE: EGIX

YOU CAN ALSO VOTE "UGGLY DOG" FOR MEME REASONS
へえええ…
So i looked at his ISO twice, (no, make that thrice!) to see what sort of blatant scum behavior you were going on about, and i don't really see it. I mean i think you mentioned 95% probability of scum, so theoretically would that last 5% of town behavior include "laziness" by any chance? Cus i feel like you're underestimating the amount of laziness which may be exhibited by any one man. Nay, make that the amount of laziness which mankind possesses as a whole.
Egix is still a null read for me so by PoE he's still someone i could see as a potential target, but he's said some good things overall even if it's very little. I'd at least want to see his response to this accusation before i consider moving my vote from Teacher.
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:06 pm

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Actually i remember that percentage thing from another user, but you still seem quite sure about scum!Egix so think of it as a metaphorical example.
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:09 pm

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I heartily endorse the teacher cw but I also have to ask.... what do you you make of overlord nibbui's minicase on Egix?
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:25 pm

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The case seems like it's stretching it a bit. While i agree with the fact that Egix's posts aren't the greatest, i'm not sure i necessarily agree with the conclusion of it being scum behavior. So i'm not ready to ultra-wagon Egix quite yet.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:27 pm

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do you think mindset is indicative of alignment often?
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:30 pm

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Yep. Unless you're a pro there will be always be some slight difference in behavior from a scum vs town mindset.
I still think Nibbui is town, merely a bit misguided in this instance. Let's vote for actual scum like Teacher while we can, that's my stance at this current time.
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:48 pm

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From catching up i've got two things on my mind right now.

- Number 1 -

Spoiler:
This is Teacher's reads list:
In post 1386, teacher wrote:Confident Town: Mena
TL: DrD, Bingle, Skit, duck
Null: Nibbui, Egix, Emps, Blatant Scum, Wicked
SL: Norway, A50
This is Teacher's current vote.
In post 1374, teacher wrote:I'm feeling this for RN.
VOTE: FlippyNips
Notice a discrepancy?

- Number 2 -

Spoiler:
Nibbui posts a semi-shitty case.

You won't BELIEVE what happens next!

> Bingle <
In post 1239, Bingle wrote:Egix scum implies skitter town.

I'll sheep that read tho.

VOTE: Egix
> Almost50 <
In post 1244, Almost50 wrote:I stopped after "Third".

VOTE: Egix

You're damn too convincing here that I'm willing to take the blame myself if Egix flips green
> the worst <
In post 1245, the worst wrote:??

i'm skitter today

VOTE: egix think I'm already voting there but idk
NorboyEEdit: (Friendly reminder: you're not already voting there)
He later changes his vote to Teacher.
^ These three IMMEDIATELY sheep the vote.
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:02 pm

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sweaty I called Egix scum long before nibbui's mini case lol I think his ISO is super obvious but keep tryin
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:04 pm

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bet ya anything teacher will say he's voting nips because nips is the most utr slot but it's a v surface reason to try and pressure someone, don't really get the feeling nips will react
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:14 pm

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You’re treating me like i just posted "Baby mafia players first case!" aren’t you? :(
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:32 pm

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1440 a little :c I should have been more earnest w this sorry 1441 not really just anticipating the 2 dimensional response and hoping for something spicier (pressure => teacher not at you)

ok you're not gonna catch entire scumteams via people voting after cases are made. who's vote don't you like - bingle or a50? allowing mine was long before the egix minicase in practice I'm kind of of removing myself from the sheep pool

who's the opportunistic sheep fypov?
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:39 pm

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Yeah i sort of mentally removed you from the pool, but i thought of including you anyway just to see your reaction. I think Bingle and A50 both is acting kinda opportunistically here. I just get the feeling that this is the sort of case that’s created to "catch" voting scum rather than the actual person that’s being cased. Don’t you get the same feeling?
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:41 pm

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I’m still wanting to vote Teacher btw, but this seemed like something worth looking at.
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:47 pm

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SHEEPING ISN'T BAD WHEN IT'S ABOUT DOING JUSTICE

serious though norwegian, i think you're underestimating egix scumminess bc it's not a heavily "logical" case where there's is "problem" with their reads or something
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:52 pm

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In post 1242, Nibbui wrote: >compliments everyone, even adding a "what's up"
>start with a "we're both town right?" subtly buddying/ needing to reaffirm the fact he is town
I'll just say that you completely missed the point of that post and leave it at that.
^ stopped reading the game at page 1 when it was already at page 5. I think he just wanted to post something in thread and wasn't interested in actually taking his time to read the game
I did read on from there but there was nothing more that I had anything to say about.
>His next 3 posts (#357, #359, #360) are only replying to skitter. He apparently reads all the game (or don't read much of it and only start reading/posting around the page the game was currently in) and only focuses on sharing thoughts with skitt, and in the end says "skitt town". I think bad scum often picks someone out to try "engaging" instead of engaging organically different people for the different emotions that each post from each person causes. I think skitt is a particularly good target for that btw.
Again, skitter's catchup was the only thing I had comments for in that stretch.
From post 240 to 826 the thing he actually think it's worth commenting is a meme vote/meaningless vote on Blatant scum by Norwegian.
I found it suspicious that Norway seemed like he was backing away from someone because they (BS) expressed intent to push back on him.
In post 833, Egix96 wrote:What's a fridge read?
FROM ALL MY BIG ASS ISO, YOU PICK THAT TO ENGAGE WITH
It's a term that I had never come across before. Also please don't capslock rage.
In post 1156, Egix96 wrote:Hoo boy it's on.

VOTE: the worst
>suddenly votes tw out of nowhere for a "i could wagon egix" from duck. Coincidentally, tw is the largest and easiest wagon in the game at the moment.
I don't feel like tw's treatment of me this game comes from town!worst. After saying nothing about or to me for most of the game, he claims to have a "snazz[y] take for scum" of me, then later blurts out that he "cld (sic) wagon" me. Why would he approach me in that way?
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:58 pm

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sry gtg

I'll post more when I'm available
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:01 pm

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