Mini Normal 2101 - Electronic Music Mafia [GAME OVER]

[skitter30]

{}
{Luca}
{skitter, HAvo, Tchill}
{Jigglypuff, soul, Flubber}
{Robb}

Some of these are "policy" reads but I hope that will change as the day goes along and they contribute something AI.

red flag on PM's claim.

PM should be conftown at this point.

? not sure what you mean here?

[Tchill13]

So, currently, my reads are based on the Azure wagon and nothing else. So, I will only have 5 other players to point out and why I think this way.

Robbnva- Null. Honestly, from reading the ISO, he was aggressive with Azure, and he remained adamant that Azure was scum. However, I didn’t like the arrogance Robb presented in his posts like saying “this will be easy” or stuff like that.

Luca- Town. Not a lot wrong with anything said, and nothing seems off.

Fall/Flavor- Scum. I’ve said this before, the “reasoning” that Fallsoul gave is a bad omen. On top of what seems to be defensive reasoning after the fact, I don’t really like this slot. Again, Flavor, if you are willing to answer me.

You mentioned that you wanted to defend this slot. If you were not Fallsoul’s slot, what would your defense for him be?

Tchill- Null. There are definitely some solid points made by Tchill, but there is one post that’s bothering me, because it just doesn’t feel complete.

I think Luca, Flub and PMysterious need rope.

I dont like overly explaining this early. Those are the ones i think should be pushed.

(Edited to remove unnecessary quotes.)

I am curious about this. So, I have a question.

If you were to explain your reasoning in great detail, what would the tl;dr for the explanation say?

Vort- Null. Called for intent to hammer and did so after the self-vote. Considering the circumstances, I can’t really give a definitive “Town” or “Scum” call on this one. I am leaning toward Town, but it wouldn’t be farfetched to say that Vort is Scum just wanting to get out of the day quick.

Everyone else is null for the time being, because of the lack of other major events that went down around this time.

With that said, I’m going to place my vote down.

VOTE: Flavor

I would like these questions answered before the end of the game day if at all possible.

why wouldnt you HARD push Vork after you were conftown to him and you were in his scum lean tier?

[Tchill13]

@Luca,

Can you explain why PM is Town?

ID LIKE TO KNOW ALSO.

Well, I don't want to beat around the bush with this one any longer, since people do want to know why Luca performed a 180 like that.

I am a Friendly Neighbor. I targeted Luca last night to show him I'm Town (which I can assume went through since he's now saying I am town), and on Night 1, I targeted Vork.

{}
{Luca}
{skitter, HAvo, Tchill}
{Jigglypuff, soul, Flubber}
{Robb}

Some of these are "policy" reads but I hope that will change as the day goes along and they contribute something AI.

red flag on PM's claim.

PM should be conftown at this point.

? not sure what you mean here?

PM targeted Vork n1 to let Vork know PM was town.

"Jigglypuff" (PM) is a scum lean in vorks read list d2.

PM then lists Vork as a null read. Which shouldnt happen. PM should push Vork for not having her as a hard TR due to the fact that Vork should know PM was town at this point.

[Tchill13]

someone please quote havos crumb.

[skitter30]

ahhhh ok i get what you're saying

the thing is that i know that luca is town and he's saying that pm is town tho

[Tchill13]

Havo seems to be the only one out of the remaining "active" players that's doing meaningful pushing and solving IMHO.

Robb has one trick in his book and every other posts comes from his "lets hypertunnel" agenda. I don't know if this lack of nuance is his town play, but I can see it go both ways.

Tchill feels like he's saying words but not producing actual content with his posts- reads as someone being political and not attracting any unwanted attention

Flubber, like ^, has even more hot air in his ISO. However in our previous game together he was pretty much exactly like this and it was very difficult to get stuff out of him so this might well be his town game

I don't have a read on jigglypuff but I think there are more interesting slots to hunt today

Luca is also doing solving

[Tchill13]

Finally some half-decent content. A couple of questions:

What solid points has Tchill made?

Any thoughts on Skitter defending you before putting Vorkuta at L-2?

To be fair, Tchill was the one that first stated that the Azure wagon couldn't have all been town. That's the main point Tchill has made, but other than that, I can't really think of anything.

As for Skitter, I am thankful that she defended me, and the vote on Vork, considering that I have him as a null at the moment, it's a fair vote.

Looking through, I definitely see why Vork would be the leading wagon, but I'd personally put more emphasis on Flavor Leaf at the moment

, because the question I have still hasn't been answered. It's easy to defend the slot that you are occupying, but Flavor stated that he was looking to defend the Fallsoul slot regardless of the slot, so I'm curious about this defense.

PM's reactions to vorks reads of PM...

DO NOT MAKE SENSE.

[Skygazer]

life is a capitalist hell hole

we live in a society

the worst

is taking over modding stuff for a bit while i get my life back together

[the worst]

[the worst]

VC 3.01

Not Voting (7): skitter30, Havo, Luca Blight, Robbnva, PMysterious, Flubbernugget, Tchill13

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority. Day three ends in (expired on 2019-10-16 23:59:00)

mod notes: skitter30 v/la until Wednesday night
hi i'm pondgazer
joined mod iso

[the worst]

prod!

Prodding robbnva.

[Tchill13]

And pretty sure there isn’t 1 post this day phase

So.... if we reduce everything down to the bare minimum, your case on me is reducible to
-'OMGUS because rob was horrible to azure on D1 and pointing that out is bad'
-'vork doesnt contribute as town'
And I'm going to address the second one, but I'll have to stop

feeding the troll

arguing with you long enough to get there.

Don’t really appreciate you ignoring this question

skitter and papa leaf

are just players that I probably will never be able to read confidently and the hypothetical utility that they may bring to town will outweigh any case I may come up with for lynching either of them early.

2 players not named PM that vork refuses to lynch.

[Tchill13]

{Luca}
{havo, flubber}
{Papa_leaf, skitter}
{jigglypuff}
{Tchill, Robb}

Luca and Havo are the ones that I think are doing the most genuine scum hunting IMHO.
Havo's D1 play makes her a tier lower than luca

Flubber shows reasoning. He's more active than when he previously was in cats (idk if activity is a tell for him or not) but yeah

The fact that papa_leaf actually CLAIMED VT when there so early is just very surprising to me.
Is he slipping? This is a complete 180 from what I'm used to seeing from him so idk what's happening here and how to process it.

Jigglypuff can stay here for a while because I'm having real difficulties getting a read from him.
I personally sympathize yet hate the wording of

again... this doesnt make sense.

[Tchill13]

vork had FL as more town than PM then voted FL.

PM deemed me a more scummy player than Vork even though Vork constantly leaned scum on her when PM KNOWS vork should know she's town.

my biggest issue with this entire situation is PM had no issue with Vork SR'ing them after PM sent Vork the friendly neighbor message.

Why?

[Tchill13]

how does one who recieved a message stating PM is town have Flub as a higher TR?

[Tchill13]

i want Skitter to quote havo's crumb before anyone else does.

ESPECIALLY BEFORE havo points it out.

[Robbnva]

Sorry guys. Let me get caught up.

[skitter30]

You realize you quoted it already, right?

Pedit @tchill

[Luca Blight]

Tchill’s looking like desperate scum atm.

[skitter30]

Yep.
Pm's already confirmed themself to one living player, and who the fuck lies about being a friendly neighbor anyways

Pm can only be scum if luca is, but luca isnt

I think the chain of confirmed players is becoming too big and the poe pool is narrowing so scum feel like they need to try to create mislynches within that group

I have no idea why vork didnt strongly townread pm, but vork was town and dead, and there's someone else who i know to be town who is confirming it so

[Robbnva]

Azuresky (6):

Robbnva

, Luca Blight,

Fallsoul

, Tchill13,

Azuresky

,

Vorkuta

Vorkuta (5):

Robbnva

, skitter30, Havo, Tchill13, Luca Blight

so just on the surface, one of tchill and luca are scum. Sure it could be an all town wagon but those are rare.


I need to look at the NKs and see who each of those guys were suspecting to see if I can get anything from that.

[Robbnva]

Nom was suspicious of fallsoul (town) and Havo(?)

[skitter30]

Luca is town, did you read the last few pages???

Nom was sus of fallsoil and tchill iirc

[Robbnva]

Fl didn't suspect anyone and claimed vt? that's a dead end. Why was he killed?

[Robbnva]

Luca is town, did you read the last few pages???

Nom was sus of fallsoil and tchill iirc

not yet. how is luca town?