Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[Menalque]

Elbirn I think mastina is a bad shout for today while chem is softlcearing jjh and there’s good odds of scum in suji/TL

[Sujimichi]

mastina is a bad vote for today because she dies tonight.

[Chemist1422]

Considering Elements was a scum bloodhound my likelyhood of trusting that claim is like .1%

There's a difference between minimal utility, except for messing with a rolecop, and negative utility

[Elbirn]

Elbirn I think mastina is a bad shout for today while chem is softlcearing jjh and there’s good odds of scum in suji/TL

Mmmmmmmmm nope sorry

But for the sake of being productive what do you think about chemist

[jjh927]

ACTUALLY I SUDDENLY HAVE A SPICY TAKE

[Adorable]

Elements (6): Adorable, eth0s, Elbirn, Menalque, Sujimichi, TiphaineDeath
Elbirn (2): Elements, TemporalLich
Sujimichi (2): mastina, jjh927

Not voting: Chemist1422

This is what the vote count looked like on day 2 and I find this odd TD gets killed instead of one of the first 4 voters on Elements wagon. jjh and TL defended Elements and I am now null on them. I have seen so many town players defend scum and get mislynched the next day for defending scum and I start to wonder if jjh and TL are town who thought Elements was town or if one of them is scum and today I see Chemist saying jjh is town.

Adorable can u do me a readslist pls

Menalque - 4th voter on the wagon and he wanted to lynch Elements so badly and I don't think scum would want to lynch their scum buddy so badly and I'm leaning town on this slot.
eth0s - I've said this before on day 2. On day 1 he didn't want to lynch Korina and instead he wanted Korina to get invested by a cop which looked like it was coming from a town player's point of view.
EP/Sujimichi - eth0s did not want to lynch EP on day 2 and I was assuming this slot was going to be confirmed town.
Elbirn - He was the third voter on the wagon and he would have been a good night kill since Elements also voted him which made Elbirn look town. Either Elbirn is town who was a mislynch bait for scum or he is scum who was getting bussed my Elements.
Chemist - Has been asking questions and I haven't seen him suspecting anyone and instead he said he did not want to vote Elements but Elements claim and action looked so bad.
TL and jjh - They both defended Elements and I have seen alot of town defend scum and get mislynched for defending scum. Once in a while I will see scum defend their scum buddy but not often and both of those slots it can go either way.
Mastina - She voted Elements but later she switches her vote to EP when eth0s said he did not want to lynch EP on day 2 and she still left her vote on EP when Elements was the best lynch target because his play was suspicious and his claim and action looked so bad.

I think the hidden remaining scum are somewhere in this list.

Mastina
jjh
Elbirn
TL
Chemist

It took me a while to write this.

[jjh927]

SO WHY DID SOAS DIE IN N1?

I think scum bloodhound implies a traitor, not a 3p

If there's a recruitable traitor in the game, that would explain such a weird kill from scum.

SoaS' posts were full of weird shit, but I think there's one thing that stands out in particular without the context I have given you here:

Deb said hello to me at eod because he could

Leave him alone he is precious like Nana's back hair

We have shaved it as she began to have back problems from the length and weight of the hair.

I trust that you have woven the hair into a fine garment for Nana, yes?

A waste of such a resource would be worthy of the merciless three shoe beating.

She decided to have it made into a nice sweater for one of her favorite pet eels.

You could even say hello if you were to come with me to the old country.

The burden of hospitality is never too great for Nana.

To someone who didn't know about me and SoaS having set up a means by which to communicate in the main thread, this may look particularly weird. Especially:

You could even say hello if you were to come with me to the old country.

And this was ostensibly directed at Elbirn.

[Menalque]

Elbirn I think mastina is a bad shout for today while chem is softlcearing jjh and there’s good odds of scum in suji/TL

Mmmmmmmmm nope sorry

But for the sake of being productive what do you think about chemist

I don’t think they’re buddies bc I don’t think that scum!chem claims a soft clear here

I guess chem could maybe be scum but I don’t really have any reason to think so? Like idk why he claims the soft clear on jjh as scum, idk why he doesn’t just let us lynch him

Also just seems towny in my experience of chemsit

[Menalque]

Why were you assuming that EP/suji was gonna be confirmed town adorable?

[Menalque]

Jjh I really dislike that post and think it’s unproductive

[eth0s]

Eth0s are you finding it weird that neither of us is dead?

That was my first thought when I received the day started message but I dont like the most likely answer that comes to mind.

Then again soas was the first nk so I'm not sure what to make of the NKs yet collectively.

[jjh927]

It's very tinfoily and relies on a lot of assumptions, I'll give you that

[jjh927]

I'll discard it and bust it back out again if it turns out I was right post game

[eth0s]

I am claiming a softclear on jjh

We should not be hammering him this early, and probably not at all

Not this early 100% agree.
Not at all is a hard disagree for me.
Especially when korina was lynched largely on setup spec and jjh also unvoted elements based on setup spec.

That Avenue means nothing to me anymore.

[jjh927]

Korina wasn't lynched on setup spec at all

[mastina]

Umm also deb's info was that there was at least one role in the game that had to do with water.

My role also has to do with water; I'm a 2-liter water bottle. My ability is rather different from TD's tho.

[jjh927]

My failings have been due to town lying and scum telling the truth

[Menalque]

It's very tinfoily and relies on a lot of assumptions, I'll give you that

Can we stay away from tinfoil while we have plausible scum between suji and TL

If one/both flip green then we can start moving further afield but I think for now we should keep the focus on those two

I’m not saying don’t raise suspicions elsewhere I just don’t think a full tinfoil case is gonna be productive for the gamestate atm

[Adorable]

Why were you assuming that EP/suji was gonna be confirmed town adorable?

eth0s did not want to lynch EP on day 2 and I assumed EP was going to be confirmed next day. I still didn't understand what this was all about.

[Menalque]

Eth0s are you finding it weird that neither of us is dead?

That was my first thought when I received the day started message but I dont like the most likely answer that comes to mind.

Then again soas was the first nk so I'm not sure what to make of the NKs yet collectively.

Yeah I’m p much in the same place

I kinda think the NK was either off us bc scum was worried we might have a protective or it was because I think we’ve been p cohesive and they’re trying to play off paranoia around that

[jjh927]

I am claiming a softclear on jjh

We should not be hammering him this early, and probably not at all

Not this early 100% agree.
Not at all is a hard disagree for me.
Especially when korina was lynched largely on setup spec and jjh also unvoted elements based on setup spec.

That Avenue means nothing to me anymore.

Can you just accept that on day 4 I will fullclaim and you can deal with me then, provided I'm not killed by scum OR by someone tapping me gently with this damage mechanic
I am a shitty lynch today

[mastina]

Okay if we pretend you’re town then go find me the actual scum

Sure.
Two of {Elbirn, EspressoSlot, TL}.
Elements was a scumread yesterday; Elements flipping scum did nothing to change the POE pool. The same four slots still contain all three scum.

VOTE: TemporalLich

[Menalque]

Why were you assuming that EP/suji was gonna be confirmed town adorable?

eth0s did not want to lynch EP on day 2 and I assumed EP was going to be confirmed next day. I still didn't understand what this was all about.

That’s a good point actually

Eth0s, what’re your current feelings around suji?

[mastina]

That was such a WIFOMy fucking kill, my god

Probably implies 1 of (elbirn, mastina)

> "That was such a wifom kill"
>"Might mean mastina's scum"
> Trolololol.

(I don't make wifom kills.)

[jjh927]

Okay if we pretend you’re town then go find me the actual scum

Sure.
Two of {Elbirn, EspressoSlot, TL}.
Elements was a scumread yesterday; Elements flipping scum did nothing to change the POE pool. The same four slots still contain all three scum.

VOTE: TemporalLich

Mastina- elements' flip points to there being a traitor and/or a a third party. Does this not concern you anywhere