Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[eth0s]

presuming 3p/traitor then scum needs a rolecop, hell they need one regardless in a role madness.

elements was a bloodhound

[Sujimichi]

Side note:
can someone ELI5 TDs role to me?
what is a recruitable traitor?
I don't at all understand what the implication against elbirn is in jjh's "tinfoily" hot take

1. Copscetic: Ascetic to cops (at least ones that return whether your meet a criteria or not [e.g. Town/Not Town])
   
2. Recruitable Traitor: Traitor that, when shot, is recruited into the main Mafia group instead of dying
   
3. jjh927 is implying that Mafia mistook Son of a Shepherd's post 669 as a Traitor crumb and shot Son of a Sheoherd in an attempt to recruit him. jjh927 states that this statement was directed at Elbirn which implies that Elbirn is Mafia.

[Sujimichi]

I feel like posts a make are being ignored, but we'll see.

[Menalque]

I mean I don’t think chem derailed the pressure on jjh, I think I did

If chem had said that and we’d insisted on him fleshing out exactly what he’d learned, I think he’d have had to do it

But frankly, I don’t like how much information scum probably already have about people’s roles (I have a couple of ideas and this is my weakest area as a player prob, so I think scum definitely have some solid guesses) and so I didn’t wanna push it because like I said, I don’t really see the motivation scum!chem has in doing it

If there is a traitor and we’re in like 4:8 it could make sense but I think that’s some balance fuckery so I’m gonna ignore it unless we get to 3 lynched scum and the game isn’t over...

I’d rather lynch suji than TL if I’m honest, but I still trust you so I’m willing to let you do your sorting thing there

I liked adorable’s posts so far today even if her content is generally limited

So unless you wanna talk openly about suji!slot and you don’t seem to then I’m just ending up at TL

[Menalque]

I feel like posts a make are being ignored, but we'll see.

I mean I’m reading them for if something piques my interest but I SR you strongly enough that I don’t really wanna bring you into the solving circle atm

[eth0s]

why would elements claim a no result on jjh instead of a guilty?

If Elements legitimately got a no result, then claiming anything other than that would be risky.
Targeting jjh is likely indicative of jjh being town btw since scum aren't exactly going to target their scumbuddy with a sane cop.

Why would soas get shot? Why would TD get shot?

Because they were players who weren't going to push heavily for mislynches yet were players who weren't going to get lynched.

at the risk of potentially outing information I would really like to know if there is a crumb or clue in this post, mastina. Because if not I am either misunderstanding something or I think you might have scumslipped.

p-edit

why would elements claim a no result on jjh instead of a guilty?

If Elements legitimately got a no result, then claiming anything other than that would be risky.
Targeting jjh is likely indicative of jjh being town btw since scum aren't exactly going to target their scumbuddy with a sane cop.

Why would soas get shot? Why would TD get shot?

Because they were players who weren't going to push heavily for mislynches yet were players who weren't going to get lynched.

oh fuck

[eth0s]

@suji do you know why I might be hesitant to vote you?

[Elbirn]

I'll assume by sheer lack of interest no one cares about retroactive sending of the special daystart PMs for Days 2 and 3. I'll ensure it happens for future Days, however.

I mean I'm cool with whatever you do m8, if you had a thing planned go for it

presuming 3p/traitor then scum needs a rolecop, hell they need one regardless in a role madness.

elements was a bloodhound

....k maybe I'm an idiot. I'm not sure why a scum team would have a rolecop and a bloodhound.

I still am unsure about chemist and none of this rules out the possibility of a good old fashioned lie

But even that doesn't work with corroborating a buddies day 4 role if that's a lie because then they both...die

Okay chemist and jj are never both scum and chemist probably town good talk

[Sujimichi]

@suji do you know why I might be hesitant to vote you?

My predecessor said you would be vital to proving his claim, and I know why. Yes.

[eth0s]

I'll assume by sheer lack of interest no one cares about retroactive sending of the special daystart PMs for Days 2 and 3. I'll ensure it happens for future Days, however.

I'm down for more flavor

[eth0s]

I mean I don’t think chem derailed the pressure on jjh, I think I did

Well without chemist saying what he said you wouldn't have unvoted

[Sujimichi]

I feel like posts a make are being ignored, but we'll see.

I mean I’m reading them for if something piques my interest but I SR you strongly enough that I don’t really wanna bring you into the solving circle atm

I wasn't really talking about you.

[eth0s]

@suji do you know why I might be hesitant to vote you?

My predecessor said you would be vital to proving his claim, and I know why. Yes.

Cool

[eth0s]

EBWOP

why would elements claim a no result on jjh instead of a guilty?

If Elements legitimately got a no result, then claiming anything other than that would be risky.
Targeting jjh is likely indicative of jjh being town btw since scum aren't exactly going to target their scumbuddy with a sane cop.

Why would soas get shot? Why would TD get shot?

Because they were players who weren't going to push heavily for mislynches yet were players who weren't going to get lynched.

at the risk of potentially outing information I would really like to know if there is a crumb or clue in this post, mastina. Because if not I am either misunderstanding something or I think you might have scumslipped.

p-edit

Side note:
can someone ELI5 TDs role to me?
what is a recruitable traitor?
I don't at all understand what the implication against elbirn is in jjh's "tinfoily" hot take

1. Copscetic: Ascetic to cops (at least ones that return whether your meet a criteria or not [e.g. Town/Not Town])
   
2. Recruitable Traitor: Traitor that, when shot, is recruited into the main Mafia group instead of dying
   
3. jjh927 is implying that Mafia mistook Son of a Shepherd's post 669 as a Traitor crumb and shot Son of a Sheoherd in an attempt to recruit him. jjh927 states that this statement was directed at Elbirn which implies that Elbirn is Mafia.

oh fuck

[mastina]

at the risk of potentially outing information I would really like to know if there is a crumb or clue in this post, mastina. Because if not I am either misunderstanding something or I think you might have scumslipped.

Well there's no slip so if you divulge information that you'd rather have kept secret then you're a dummy because I've looked at that post and there's nothing I can see there which I can see as being misinterpreted and yet there's most definitively not a slip and also not any hints. I've hinted at my role elsewhere but that sure wasn't one of them.

[eth0s]

urrrrrrgghhhhhhhhhhhhh

FoS: Mastina

[eth0s]

Okay someone riddle me this. water is a part of the flavor or TD's role right? but has nothing to do with the role function itself?

then what is the point of someone being informed that there is at least one player with a role that has something to do with water?

like is that actually just useless info or what

[TemporalLich]

okay can someone tell me what the heck 1530 is...

if not eth0s is very likely to be a scum

[jjh927]

Okay someone riddle me this. water is a part of the flavor or TD's role right? but has nothing to do with the role function itself?

then what is the point of someone being informed that there is at least one player with a role that has something to do with water?

like is that actually just useless info or what

Me and deb both agreed it was pretty bad info

Mastina did somehow figure out what the info was though

[jjh927]

Oh, Shepherd was a backup of my role pretty sure. I probably shouldn't say what said role is but I'm like 95% certain knowing what my flavor is that Shepherd's role is tied to mine.
VOTE: Elements
Would also vote Espresso or Elbirn; these three are reads where Adorable and I seem to have some overlap. (TL is still a personal scumread of mine but Adorable has a townread there, so.)

He claimed his info in our pt fwiw
I also knew it was deb

Then if my guess is right you probably know what liquid my object involves. (Well, there's a chance that this info isn't in that role so maybe not but oh well, can always hope.)

[jjh927]

TL should really be today's lynch though

[jjh927]

What do you think about elements? And don't just give me a short answer

Judging by the ISO, elements is the kind of person you'd want in your slice of township. He votes like a townie and posts like one too. The wanting to sheep SoaS tells me this guy is laidback and doesn't take things seriously. The not wanting to discuss roles is town-indicative or at least not wanting to rolefish in the shining moonlight. The reasoning in 156 is a fairly decent point made. 305 does seem like a weird post considering 304 is required reading for context, but doesn't seem like this indicates elements is a scumlord trying to act towny. 732 is the most recent elements post which is indeed concerning however, it might mean elements is a shadow lurking in the elements.

I don't recall any other serious townreads from TL

[Sujimichi]

Okay someone riddle me this. water is a part of the flavor or TD's role right? but has nothing to do with the role function itself?

then what is the point of someone being informed that there is at least one player with a role that has something to do with water?

like is that actually just useless info or what

I don't believe it to be useless information, but I do wonder what use it had to the person that had the information unless the intent was for them to announce it.

[jjh927]

Keep wondering. I have my suspicions

[Sujimichi]

By wondering, that means I have mine as well. What was the point of that post? Would you like to discuss or you just like to post for postings sake?