Open 768: C9++ [GAME OVER]

[nomnomnom]

VC 1.12

Bingle (4):

the worst, skitter30, Menalque, Almost50

Wickedestjr (2):

DrDolittle, Nibbui

Egix96 (2):

NorwegianboyEE, Bingle

the worst (1):

Egix96

Nibbui (1):

Wickedestjr

Emperor flippyNips (1):

teacher

NorwegianboyEE (1):

northsidegal

Not Voting:

Emperor flippyNips

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-10-18 19:33:45)

[Almost50]

3. You wanted to lynch the vig who shot scum.

4. You WANTED TO LYNCH THE VIG WHO SHOT SCUM.

Only because YOU were hard defending him. I simply didn't trust you.

5. Effort is NAI from me, which you should know, given the fact that you just finished watching me powerwolf rolecall and Fogport.

Yeah, and I'm supposed to believe you'd play the same way if you rolled scum here?? Really??

6. Your name is not ducky, so maybe let the great rubber one speak for himself.

What does he have to do with this? He can respond for his part, but I'm talking about MY version of the game status.

[Almost50]

I thought mods grab pagetops to post VCs!!

[Almost50]

I also thought NSG replaced into this game

[Bingle]

Yeah, and I'm supposed to believe you'd play the same way if you rolled scum here?? Really??

Why wouldn't I? No one here was in Fogport or rolecall, I had no idea you'd replace in, and there hasn't been a shift in my play away from being active.

If anything, this, right here, is a shift towards the more proactive Jingle.

But, more to the point, you called me scum in a direct response to a post aimed at ducky which undercuts the power of the point aimed at ducky. I get that you want me dead, but at least give me the room to play mafia while you try to hang me.

[Bingle]

I also thought NSG replaced into this game

I endorse this pithy remark and/or service.

[teacher]

I did not. I do think you’ve been provided some content but nowhere near as much as I’d expect from you. I know I tend to SR you, so I’m trying to be patient and give you time to produce something more thorough. Don’t jump down my throat because my wording was vaguely ambiguous.

Im just frustrated, I suppose a bit at life. Im playing as much as I can, and I've got you and skit both scumreading me

without

interacting with anything Ive said. In fact, other than Norway, nobody really seems to be interested in interacting with my takes/posts/readslists -- I havent gotten any questions or takes in response, even when I welcome them. It makes it kinda hard to want to get into the game when I feel like im just casting stones down the well. But anyways, Im here now and going to do my thing for a bit.

[Menalque]

I mean you're null-nulltown for me atm so idk why you're saying this? I get being frustrated and I don't think I've actively not engaged w/ you, you just haven't been around enough for me to be someone I've been actively trying to solve with

[teacher]

yea -- I meant more the board generally. Im frustrated because I cant get into the game and I dont think thats entirely on my end (though a good part is). Anyways, Im back on page 2.

[teacher]

Interesting. It's been a while since I've had to read skitter, but she's /probably/ the best scumhunter in this list I think? Assuming none of the people I don't know are supergeniuses no one told me about.

I think she's one of the best scum players but not sure about scumhunter.

kind of corny page 1 questioning but why the first thing in your mind is the best scumhunter instead of the best scumplayer?

are you the kind of person that supports sheeping?

My reads are traditionally for shit.

I'm much better at keeping the gamestate protown.

You didnt answer the sheeping bit.

Do you think you kept the gamestate here protown? If so, what action in particular do you think you took, and how do you think it benefitted town?

[teacher]

Spoiler: Page 4 alone showing who duck is

quote="In post 61, Bingle"]Hey, ducky, If you claim SK I promise not to lynch you until you shoot all of the scum.

Otherwise I'm going to lynch you as soon as you stop entertaining me.

[/quote]

VOTE: Nibbui

pedit: oh god rolling SK against you again sounds like my personal hell

ok my early read on ceejay plan failed

VOTE: duck

what are you serious about? let me get through your bird head

I'm gonna try that thing where I don't do much til D3 then come back and obvtown and catch the scums and save the day

sorry nibbui, explaining that would be far too much effort pre-d3. ;/

talk me thru it - what are your reads & what have you done to generate AI content?
why is my posting NAI and how do you feel about the votes on my wagon/

I was with some very very weak positive feelings about Jingle sole "Yes". I think that scum more likely than not would explain at least a bit to make it look like they are generating content, but he only replied nonchalantly "Yes", and it makes some sense from a town!pov because replying like that he could get to see if I asked further or not, while also not biasing other people reads with his own (and knowing he is jingle I think he is experienced enough to put that into consideration).

Me voting Ceejay wasn't really random either. I was trying to see if he would in his next post feel pressured to vote and do "what other people" are doing or if he would keep at his own pace for longer. If he did I was pretty ok with giving him a town lean already, but in his next post he already voted to fit in. It's not good or bad but just neutral.

It may not seem like it, but the little I do I've a reason to, I just don't like explaining it every time.

I think your posting is NAI because this is how I think regardless of your alignment, to my question you would either:

1. Try to engage me even if just for a bit

or

2. Say a "I want to see more of it before explaining quack" or something

Doesn't really matter if it would be scum!duck faking it or town!duck being genuine.

the way you dismissed my early reaching just tells me that this is low-energy!duck not giving much of a care to the game rn.

@Ducky

why is my posting AI and how do I feel about the votes on my wagon?

Theres more stuff on p3 and p5.

Hey Norway, how on gods green earth did you think I was ducky?

Why is an RVS wagon in any way AI, regardless?

[teacher]

Unvote. Vote: the worst

Townie vote IMO.

[teacher]

Oh, god, I think everyone in this thread except wicked are baby mafia players.

Hey nibs, you have much experience with anyone? Same @ norwegia and BS.

Yes, I do.

have we played together?

[Nibbui]

yea i have gotten even less confident on my emperor's read with the last few pages

[teacher]

I'm not gonna make extra effort of meta'ing everyone that i don't know just bc of 2 or 3 posts.

i would rather just wait some people that knows you say "yeah, usual menalque"

Not usual Menalque. Also not NAI. The spat was town-indicative for him. I dont recall you being so quick to disengage overly-harsh 1v1s, though (All-caps rage, as you yourself pointed out). Is this more mature/experienced Fumuki/Nibbui Can you show me you disengaging insomnia or like players in a similar way before?

[Nibbui]

@NSG

I know you hate when people ask you to "do a song and a dance", and i'm not asking for it, but when do you think you're gonna be around and how much realistically you think you're gonna be able to do still in d1 (we have 6 days left rn)?

i don't want to bother you but i don't want to let this day go without talking more w/ your slot for multiple reasons

[teacher]

cj might be town too?

Can you talk about this when you get back? (Seems like an odd take on little content, but I know you have history and there isnt much CJV/NSG to sort rn)

[the worst]

uncertain

at a meta level his alignment makes no sense til later in the game IME

[teacher]

Is he normally mildly abrasive?

i didn't read him as midly abrasive actually, you came off more abrasive than he did in that convo imo
....
snip/quote]
An accurate capitulation of the conversation on reread. And I think Skit reads it well too, on the T/T possibly T/S with Nibs as the S. This is town points for Skit all around

[the worst]

Hot take: duck should be townreading me.

why's that?

[teacher]

Is he normally mildly abrasive?

i didn't read him as midly abrasive actually, you came off more abrasive than he did in that convo imo
....
snip[/quote]
An accurate capitulation of the conversation on reread. And I think Skit reads it well too, on the T/T possibly T/S with Nibs as the S. This is town points for Skit all around

EBWOP

[Nibbui]

Is this more mature/experienced Fumuki/Nibbui Can you show me you disengaging insomnia or like players in a similar way before?

i'm like

v v lazy rn but since i feel like treating your slot with good-faith before giving a final judgement, i'll properly answer this:

(just realized that i can't really quote old locked games? I'll quote without my name in the posts but they are all mine towards insomnia)

Spoiler:

why you've been so aggressive this game

why the hell your only reads are:

town reading the most wolf read player because of silly questions he made

2 wolf reads

you've basically 0 posts about anyone else, it seems you're simply creating a narrative

your montosh town read has exactly 0 sense and i expected way better from you

i'm basically almost giving insomnia a town read for how much he is swearing people

and i'm not happy with that

it's also not hammer

you're ~somewhat~ toxic insomnia

i didn't expect you to be this toxic though.

I always feel that this aggressiveness is being very over-used here without justification and you would be purposely trying to sound town by it

but anyway i'll give you a free pass this game because i wouldn't expect you to be this toxic about someone wolf reading you if you were actually a wolf

if you're though next time don't expect me to listen to your ate

i don't even think that i'm that better than random

my problem is you acting all high about sheeping someone about a read that was already my poe and never left it

i don't care for what insomnia does tbh

i think this is enough although there is other examples

[teacher]

I appreciate it, Nibs. Can you send me a link or name the game so I can see the temper of the 1v1 in context.

[the worst]

Wicked is pretty obvtown by fogey standards.

Would you be able to expand on this? I've spent the last ~1.5 hours looking through his ISO and I still can't get a good read on him.

wait you spent an hour and a half looking through his ISO and... had no original thoughts at all worth sharing with the class? you keeping a note pt or something? (if so nice work but you still need to post itt!)

[teacher]

Is he normally mildly abrasive?

i didn't read him as midly abrasive actually, you came off more abrasive than he did in that convo imo
....
snip

An accurate capitulation of the conversation on reread. And I think Skit reads it well too, on the T/T possibly T/S with Nibs as the S. This is town points for Skit all around

EBWOP

Hopefully right this time. If not I give up.