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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:04 am

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suji why the heck do you think mastina is going to die tonight?
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:06 am

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In post 1623, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1622, Elbirn wrote:Suji is mastina going to die tonight or no?
In post 1621, Menalque wrote:What didn’t you like about it for 1 & 2 ?
I’m in phone and can explain better later, but I didn’t like her posting after the Elements hammer, and I’m not a fan of her reads today (and overall posting by extension).
okay, I can wait, but why do you think that her reads are bad today? even if you subtract yourself do you not think the other reads are good?

if you think they're bad where is the scum? if jjh/mastina, why is chem claiming a soft clear on jjh?
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:11 am

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In post 1625, TemporalLich wrote:suji why the heck do you think mastina is going to die tonight?
Role related.
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:12 am

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In post 1626, Menalque wrote:
In post 1623, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1622, Elbirn wrote:Suji is mastina going to die tonight or no?
In post 1621, Menalque wrote:What didn’t you like about it for 1 & 2 ?
I’m in phone and can explain better later, but I didn’t like her posting after the Elements hammer, and I’m not a fan of her reads today (and overall posting by extension).
okay, I can wait, but why do you think that her reads are bad today? even if you subtract yourself do you not think the other reads are good?

if you think they're bad where is the scum? if jjh/mastina, why is chem claiming a soft clear on jjh?
Isn’t it because of the plastic (weak to damage) claim? I don’t see that as a good clear.
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:14 am

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no it's to do with jjh's secondary ability
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:15 am

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I think I missed that. I’ll look it up later.
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:17 am

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In post 1400, Chemist1422 wrote:I don’t want to expand but jjh’s second ability makes him very very likely town
In post 1425, Chemist1422 wrote:I am claiming a softclear on jjh

We should not be hammering him this early, and probably not at all
In post 1432, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 1427, Elbirn wrote:
In post 1425, Chemist1422 wrote:I am claiming a softclear on jjh

We should not be hammering him this early, and probably not at all
Elaborate
I rolecopped jjh last night

I know his role is accurate to what he's claiming, and would likely be negative utility for scum

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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:21 am

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I actually looked it up now. Chemist says he believes it to be a negative utility for scum but doesn’t say what it is. I still don’t think it’s a good clear.
  1. I don’t know Chemist’s ability to balance setups and thus his ability to make such a determination especially in the absence of full-setup information.
  2. Even if it is a negative utility for scum, it may be a necessary negative utility to balance the overall setup.
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:22 am

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is... interesting

We'll let that simmer over till tomorrow.

Adorable's ISO weirds me out...

and I actually did manage to find jjh's softclaim in ... "weak"? seriously? Gonna have to believe the claim a little for now. This makes jjh look town (and chemist1422 look town if his rolecop claim is right)...

mastina only feels towny, but the opening post is mason with Adorable...

anyway my vote shifts to what makes a lot more sense

VOTE: Adorable
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:31 am

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In post 1633, TemporalLich wrote: is... interesting

We'll let that simmer over till tomorrow.

Adorable's ISO weirds me out...

and I actually did manage to find jjh's softclaim in ... "weak"? seriously? Gonna have to believe the claim a little for now. This makes jjh look town (and chemist1422 look town if his rolecop claim is right)...

mastina only feels towny, but the opening post is mason with Adorable...

anyway my vote shifts to what makes a lot more sense


VOTE: Adorable
why does this make a lot more sense?
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:35 am

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In post 1634, Menalque wrote:why does this make a lot more sense?
voting someone with a Weak role (confirmed by a rolecop) doesn't make too much sense don't you think?
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:40 am

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In post 1635, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 1634, Menalque wrote:why does this make a lot more sense?
voting someone with a Weak role (confirmed by a rolecop) doesn't make too much sense don't you think?
firstly adorable isn't voting anyone as far as I can see from her ISO

second idk why that makes her scum, can you explain why you think it does
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:42 am

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In post 1636, Menalque wrote:
In post 1635, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 1634, Menalque wrote:why does this make a lot more sense?
voting someone with a Weak role (confirmed by a rolecop) doesn't make too much sense don't you think?
firstly adorable isn't voting anyone as far as I can see from her ISO

second idk why that makes her scum, can you explain why you think it does
not much content, kinda looks like VCA, very lurky
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:43 am

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Actually wait, the only reason jjh is "softcleared", which isn't even a thing because you're either cleared or you're not, is because of his modifier that only gives him 1 HP instead of 2?

There isnt some big thing about it that chemist didnt reveal, that's it? Because that's nothing
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:44 am

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jjh phrased it as being Weak...

wait a freaking minute what the fuck?
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:46 am

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VOTE: jjh927

yeah back to jjh being an SR...

lest I lose myself in the slimy mire of scumreading town
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:48 am

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In post 1638, Elbirn wrote:Actually wait, the only reason jjh is "softcleared", which isn't even a thing because you're either cleared or you're not, is because of his modifier that only gives him 1 HP instead of 2?

There isnt some big thing about it that chemist didnt reveal, that's it? Because that's nothing
literally look 7 posts above your post and you'll see chem's argument for clearing jjh
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:50 am

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That wasn't a softclaim? That was an explanation of why I have 1 hp
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:50 am

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In post 1376, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1372, Menalque wrote:Let’s get this done peeps, jjh isn’t living until tomorrow after that end f day plau
I have a day 4 ability and also if I take damage I die
This was all the real info
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:50 am

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unless we think there are 4 scum in this set up, which honestly seems like too much, then I think jjh/chem/mast all likely town

then I have a TR on eth0s

elbirn I liked end of D2 but a lot less today

adorable is quite empty but I like more today

so there's probably the 2 scum in (TL, suji, elbirn, adorbs) and that's the order I wanna lynch in for now
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:50 am

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jjh is guiltied scum

prove me wrong
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:51 am

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also I anticlaim any sort of investigative role
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:51 am

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strongly suspect 2/3 scum in (TL, suji, elbirn) at this point tbh, which is I think the same place Mastina got to so I'm kinda TRing her for that as well
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:51 am

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In post 1646, TemporalLich wrote:also I anticlaim any sort of investigative role
sorry what?
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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:52 am

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ngl TL this looks a lot like scum flailing
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