Open 768: C9++ [GAME OVER]

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VC 1.14

Bingle (3):

the worst, Menalque, skitter30

teacher (3):

Nibbui, NorwegianboyEE, DrDolittle

Egix96 (1):

Bingle

the worst (1):

Egix96

Nibbui (1):

Wickedestjr

NorwegianboyEE (1):

northsidegal

Not Voting:

Emperor flippyNips, Almost50, teacher

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-10-18 19:33:45)

[the worst]

arrrr

[Bingle]

This is a godawful reason to be pushing him

Why?

Who am I scum with?

[Bingle]

Should I townread an imitation? Should I not take context into account? Do you think this is outside your scumrange?

I don't think my scumrange and townrange are different, with the caveat that I won't outright break the game for the opposite faction.

This isn't an imitation, and the contexts are pretty much the same. The parallels are very obvious, and if you think I'm doing this to fool specifically you, you're kidding yourself.

[Bingle]

Jingle i see exactly what you're doing here

What am I doing, then?

[skitter30]

This is a godawful reason to be pushing him

Why?

Who am I scum with?

Because you're acting like this is the optimal wagon trying to revive it when your reasons for pushing him are 'why wouldnt i'?

[skitter30]

Jingle i see exactly what you're doing here

What am I doing, then?

VOTE: jingle

We're not doing this.

[skitter30]

This is a godawful reason to be pushing him

Why?

Who am I scum with?

Because you're acting like this is the optimal wagon and trying to revive it when your reasons for pushing him are 'why wouldnt i'?

Ebwop

[the worst]

Should I townread an imitation? Should I not take context into account? Do you think this is outside your scumrange?

I don't think my scumrange and townrange are different, with the caveat that I won't outright break the game for the opposite faction.

This isn't an imitation, and the contexts are pretty much the same. The parallels are very obvious, and if you think I'm doing this to fool specifically you, you're kidding yourself.

in that case to be candid i'm not seeing what you think i should be seeing
sorry

[Nibbui]

bingle doesn't look good but there's no way that we lynch him over teacher after those posts.

I want teacher and it's up to you guys how much i need to strongarm this to get through??

[Nibbui]

teacher/tw might be a thing

[the worst]

i wish i was scum w teacher
i do think i might've been overthinking my read on him yday

[Bingle]

This is a godawful reason to be pushing him

Why?

Who am I scum with?

Because you're acting like this is the optimal wagon trying to revive it when your reasons for pushing him are 'why wouldnt i'?

Am I acting like this is the optimal wagon? Cause I really don’t think I am and I don’t think that’s a reasonable characterization of my play.

I’m pushing to see why a wagon on a player that p much everyone agreed was scummy disappeared for pretty much no reason without that players play changing. Saying I’m doing anything else is a huge misrep.

Why are you townreading egix?

[skitter30]

You've been sitting on this wagon for literally dozens of pages, have complained everytime it's fallen apart, and arent really pushing everyone else, so yes, i think calling this your 'optimal wagon' is reasonable

And again i dont know why *you* think he's scummy, all i'm getting from you is that you agree with other people. I want to know why.

I dont know if i'm townreading him per se but when the person i'm most suspicious of in this game is behaving this weirdly around a wagon i'm going to be wary af around it and object to it, yeah

[Bingle]

Also, skitter, if you think I’m the best lynch, case me. you've had the same 4 people willing to vote me for a week and you’ve done fuckall about it. Those four people, btw?

Ducky, who you’re scumreading.
You.
Mena, who has left all the strong impressions of a wet paper sack recently and who is sleeping your scumread onto me despite wanting an a50 lynch more.
A50, who would be scumreading me if I were mod confirmed town.

Your wagon is terrible, but you haven’t tried to figure out why it’s following you or convince people of the righteousness of my demise. You’ve been content to sit back and post jingle is scum every few pages without once trying to convince anyone or attempt to read me since the point in the thread when I was being intentionally obtuse. If you are town here, you’re playing with all of the skill of a drunken toddler, no offense to the toddler.

[the worst]

i'm town~!

[Bingle]

>His next 3 posts (#357, #359, #360) are only replying to skitter. He apparently reads all the game (or don't read much of it and only start reading/posting around the page the game was currently in) and only focuses on sharing thoughts with skitt, and in the end says "skitt town". I think bad scum often picks someone out to try "engaging" instead of engaging organically different people for the different emotions that each post from each person causes. I think skitt is a particularly good target for that btw.

This is the point I think bears the most investigation, btw. Which hasn't really been a secret. I think I mentioned the fact that his worst post was 360 when talking about why nsg's townread was about as convincing as shouting fire in a crowded swimming pool.

[skitter30]

Jingle tyty for the compliment

I'm very deliberately not articulating a major part of my read on you rn, and i'm p sure you know that, and are baiting me anyways; if i'm reading how this is playing out correctly, we're absolutely on the same wavelength here and the way you're handling this is scummy af, and i have an incredibly difficult time believing that this comes from town!you

I'm bouncing for vla nowish, but we can pick this up when i get back <3

[the worst]

enjoy the v/la skitter

[Almost50]

A50, who would be scumreading me if I were mod confirmed town.

Actually that is not true. The fact is I am just being extra careful with you after you've just beat me twice in a raw.. that is scum!you beat town!me in two successive games.

I thus am analyzing your play, and I had come to the conclusion you are being too relaxed to be worried about an investigation, yet your laziness in an invitation to be investigated.

Now let me ask you one thing: You said the optimal play for the SK here is to pick BP. The question I am asking now though is

what would YOU pick as SK

?

[skitter30]

Tyty

[DrDolittle]

is there a case where bingle and skitter are both town?

[DrDolittle]

I think so... but what are other people's thoughts on this

[the worst]

not reading for SK:
skitter is town
so if bungle is town yeah

[DrDolittle]

im not particularly interested in lynching sk-potential today at all.