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[Hopkirk]

Scum doc on Eevee makes sense to why our vig didn't shoot successfully last night

[davesaz]

There's no way a traitor is stupid enough to <3 only scumpartners unless they're doing it specifically for Wifom which is dumb in itself.

You would think so, but I've been scum in a game where traitor pegged all partners (as scum in that case but as town works the same way), and we lost.

[Garmr]

Why does someone think that gobble accidentally outted one of his scumbuddies?

Wouldnt the traitor be trying to steer people away from scum? If so, wasn't the kill to try and frame someone? And if so, wouldnt that mean the people that gobble was scumreading are more likely town?

Read the latest post also accidentally outing is not a controllable thing. What do you think about judge?

[Hopkirk]

Why does someone think that gobble accidentally outted one of his scumbuddies?

Wouldnt the traitor be trying to steer people away from scum? If so, wasn't the kill to try and frame someone? And if so, wouldnt that mean the people that gobble was scumreading are more likely town?

Read the latest post also accidentally outing is not a controllable thing. What do you think about judge?

So are you saying accidental or intentional outing?

[Garmr]

Why does someone think that gobble accidentally outted one of his scumbuddies?

Wouldnt the traitor be trying to steer people away from scum? If so, wasn't the kill to try and frame someone? And if so, wouldnt that mean the people that gobble was scumreading are more likely town?

Read the latest post also accidentally outing is not a controllable thing. What do you think about judge?

So are you saying accidental or intentional outing?

Oh the judge was intentional information posting but it would be a accidental if any town noticed. Get my drift. But Billys seemed under the impression that gobble wouldn't accidentally reveal a scum member.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@LUV

: can you go through the old vote counts and adjust the numbers voting, or confirm that they're accurate and there's double votes/similar in play?

2782- 5 on eevee 4 names on
2946- 2 on eevee 3 names on
3340 - I wasn't using the doublevote here and I'm on twice. Wrong numbers on Alonzo. Texcat on two people.

Probably more, this is just from a glance at 3 of the VCs

Fixed.

[bob3141]

There's no way a traitor is stupid enough to <3 only scumpartners unless they're doing it specifically for Wifom which is dumb in itself.

we must use caution when following crumbs.

Soem could be townies he wants to frame should he flip and other could be him trying to tell them he is scum

[Garmr]

There's no way a traitor is stupid enough to <3 only scumpartners unless they're doing it specifically for Wifom which is dumb in itself.

we must use caution when following crumbs.

Soem could be townies he wants to frame should he flip and other could be him trying to tell them he is scum

So wanna switch to judge then as he tried to tell judge about his neighbourhood?

[Rick Dalton]

VOTE: Rick Dalton

Its either this or someone's trying to frame you.

Why would I ever kill Gobble there?

[Rick Dalton]

If this town let’s them continue with that nonsense it will result in a loss.

People say this, but the majority of games I do shenanigans I end up solving.

You can ask A50/Garmr about my trololol’ing all game as an IC.

You can ask Vorkuta/Alchemist/Una about my trollloling fake claim day 3 IC into Vig.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID YOU FREELOADING BENEDICT ARNOLD

I ain't trusting you as far as I can throw you.

This was pretty clearly a crumb. I'm surprised no one seemed to catch it.

VOTE: Tchill

That vote hopping was opportunistic as

oven

.

I don't know what this means, but is it possible that Tchill was Gook's rolecop target?

Gobbledygook just hates me because I vigged him last game.

I’m pretty sure that was something close to my flavor in that game, the freeloading part.

[Rick Dalton]

See how he voted for titus then never realy did anything after that.

Makes me think he wanted to avoid lynching alonzo as he migth thought he was teh traitor. see how teh entire time he was probbing set ups rather than scum hunting

what are you talking about...? idt scum would know a traitor even exists. also ela is an easier way to shorten my name. (sidenote the "teh" procs my ocd. idk why you always type the like that)

Why wouldn’t scum know?

Actually, this is a normal. Scum ten billion percent know there was a traitor, and the traitor ten billion percent knew all the scum.

[EeveeLution Army]

Scum doc on Eevee makes sense to why our vig didn't shoot successfully last night

Are you suggesting im doctor because gobbley said he thinks im a scum doctor?

[EeveeLution Army]

Which again, im not doctor

[bob3141]

There's no way a traitor is stupid enough to <3 only scumpartners unless they're doing it specifically for Wifom which is dumb in itself.

we must use caution when following crumbs.

Soem could be townies he wants to frame should he flip and other could be him trying to tell them he is scum

So wanna switch to judge then as he tried to tell judge about his neighbourhood?

Could certain be so. After all he did say he could see his smarm at the end.

be funny if they killed because they thought he actualy had pt with eve

VOTE: JJD

[Rick Dalton]

There's no way a traitor is stupid enough to <3 only scumpartners unless they're doing it specifically for Wifom which is dumb in itself.

You would think so, but I've been scum in a game where traitor pegged all partners (as scum in that case but as town works the same way), and we lost.

I’m pretty sure I’m the one that caught you all because of that.

[Rick Dalton]

Are people trying to say Eevee and I are scum together

[bob3141]

if jjd is scum would explain why he said to profi he thought jjd was town. Maybe trying to convince him his scum partner was town in back ground

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

the gobble kill makes me wonder why him

we have claimed tracker , voyer. a suriving mason. And a few other claims

If scum have a Ninja they don't care about the Tracker/Voyeur, and a Macho Mason is not a priority at this time (it's not even close to LyLo)

[bob3141]

the neighbor part of gooble role is interesting. As other have pointed out

since gobble would know the scum. If profii was scum it would defeat the point of gobble being a traitor if he was in neigbhourhood with one of teh other scum and no others.

think proffii said it was him and gobble.

by extension that proves tchill is town if proffi is town.

scum must certainly be biting their fist. They killed a scum and made 2 pr near confirmed lol

[bob3141]

Vote counts that show the major bandwagons and lynches so far (x is dead townies or near cleared. scum marked with s) Since its from my analysis Ive simply marked myself as b as i know im town. But leaves it there for others to see

Alonzo - (10): - b , Garmr, x, Judge Joseph Dread, AaronFrost, Titus, Billy Pilgrim, Gobble(s), davesaz, Cliff Booth
EeveeLution Army - (3): - Rick Dalton, Hopkirk, texcat
Hopkirk - (2): - x, x
Judge Joesph Dread - (1): - x
Tchill13 - (1): - Hectic
Titus - (1): - EeveeLution Army

Tchill13 - (6): - scum , Hopkirk, Cliff Booth, Titus, Hectic, Garmr
EeveeLution Army - (5): - Judge Joseph Dread, Rick Dalton, Billy Pilgrim, b , AaronFrost
bob4131 - (2): - x, x
Garmr - (1): - texcat
Rick Dalton - (1): - x

Elements - (11): Cliff Booth, Rick Dalton, x, AaronFrost, x, EeveeLution Army, b, x, Judge Joseph Dread, x, x
Cliff Booth (3): Hectic, gobble(S), Titus
Tchill13 - (3): Billy Pilgrim, Garmr, x
AaronFrost (2): Kop, Hopkirk
Billy Pilgrim - (1): YouAreGreat

Cliff Booth (8): x, Hopkirk, x, Billy Pilgrim, x, Hectic, x
Elements - (5): AaronFrost, Cliff Booth, Titus, Rick Dalton, x
Hectic - (2): Judge Joseph Dredd, x
Judge Joesph Dredd (2): Hectic, Gobble(S)
Billy Pilgrim - (1): YouAreGreat
davesaz - (1): EeveeLution Army
Kop (1): b
Tchill13 - (1): Garmr

roosterfoster (5): x, x, Kop, davesaz, x
Elements - (3): Skellen, b, Cliff Booth
Billy Pilgrim - (2): YouAreGreat, Hopkirk
Judge Joesph Dredd (2): Hectic, gobble(s)
Hopkirk (2): Rick Dalton
Carcalilly - (1): x
davesaz - (1): EeveeLution Army
Hectic - (1): Judge Joseph Dredd
Skellen - (1): x
tchill13 - (1): Billy Pilgrim
YouAreGreat - (1): Garmr

Not Voting: Fish Monger

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I'm pretty sure that scum didn't know about the traitor or they surely would have caught Gook's crumb.

If I was scum I simply wouldn't have noticed it, because I'm not American and I had no idea who Benedict Arnold was. (I've just googled it now after you brought it up).

Of course, the chances are really slim the whole scum team contains no American players.. (but I'm just trying to keep myself in the suspects pool so as not to get shot at night).

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Also this makes me cautious of judge here to.

That's the spirit.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

wait. i just realized carcalilly is alive. our wincon is pure

I have no idea what this means.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Looks to me liek your simply not trying to solve teh game. as you already know who

the

scum are

Did you mean "teh"??

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

The last time i ran a game on a different site with the role traitor, i made it clear to scum that there is a traitor but they didn't know who it was. I don't know if it can be the same case in this game however.

A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:

is Mafia-aligned
knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
identity is not known by the Mafia team, although

they should know a Traitor exists

cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops

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