Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[Menalque]

Sup Eth0s

[eth0s]

I am claiming a softclear on jjh

We should not be hammering him this early, and probably not at all

Elaborate

I rolecopped jjh last night

I know his role is accurate to what he's claiming, and would likely be negative utility for scum

I will go into no further detail

Considering Elements was a scum bloodhound my likelyhood of trusting that claim is like .1%

actually mindmeld with TL here. I already addressed my thoughts on this situation but it is worth noting that TL pointing it out first gives him some sort of towncred (to me at least)

[jjh927]

Mass claim would be a lot more interesting tomorrow

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: jjh

better vote than elbirn despite elbirn being an openwolf

jjh might be a deepwolf, which is a lot worser

[Menalque]

I mean it might but also there’s a lot of powers floating around and if we out them then it makes certain things today a lot easier

Like I feel a lot better about you but I also don’t love that it’s based on a soft clear for a power that I don’t even know

[eth0s]

I am against a massclaim right now. There's a lot of shit going on and a lot of night actions to wonder about but I'm thinking that would help scum more at the moment.

At least from my understanding a mass claim hurts town when we are this far from lylo (based on the assumption of 3 scum)

[Menalque]

Yeah that’s the other thing I’m wondering about

Could this be a 4 scum game?

[Menalque]

Or 3 scum + traitor

In which case jjh speccing about it is probably AI but I’m not sure in which direction

[jjh927]

Eth0s, I'll go post by post through the PT if it'll stop you coming up with conspiracy theories

[Menalque]

I’ve been kinda back of my mind wondering about that but not getting to a satisfactory answer

[jjh927]

VOTE: jjh

better vote than elbirn despite elbirn being an openwolf

jjh might be a deepwolf, which is a lot worser

This one is coming out of a sense of hope, as opposed to desperation, neither of which were the source of the Elbirn vote

[Menalque]

Jjh what is your read on Eth0s?

[jjh927]

4 scum would be ridiculous based on estimations of power levels from flips and the damage mechanic potentially contributing to additional deaths

I quite like 2 scum and 1 traitor for 13p because depending on power roles, 3 groupscum can feel too strong and 2 feels too weak in 13p

[eth0s]

Well I have too many scumreads/leans right now to say I feel 3 scum is confirmed but I have this itching suspicion of an arsonist or something similar. I guess we'll know when we all go up in flames.

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jjh as long as you don't break the rules surrounding not quoting private information then I would like to hear anything that's going to help me sort you. Because I feel like it's not really a conspiracy theory at all.

[Elbirn]

I am claiming a softclear on jjh

We should not be hammering him this early, and probably not at all

Elaborate

I rolecopped jjh last night

I know his role is accurate to what he's claiming, and would likely be negative utility for scum

I will go into no further detail

Considering Elements was a scum bloodhound my likelyhood of trusting that claim is like .1%

actually mindmeld with TL here. I already addressed my thoughts on this situation but it is worth noting that TL pointing it out first gives him some sort of towncred (to me at least)

Why does TL not believe the claim when *he gave chemist the rolecop shot*

[jjh927]

Jjh what is your read on Eth0s?

He's towny in quite number of ways, and I don't doubt any of them at all because of how he pushed for elements

[jjh927]

Well I have too many scumreads/leans right now to say I feel 3 scum is confirmed but I have this itching suspicion of an arsonist or something similar. I guess we'll know when we all go up in flames.

p-edit
jjh as long as you don't break the rules surrounding not quoting private information then I would like to hear anything that's going to help me sort you. Because I feel like it's not really a conspiracy theory at all.

I mean, it's a theory that I'm hiding a conspiracy from you in the PT with deb

[Menalque]

I’m p sure TL means that he wouldn’t trust whatever the role is to actually be AI

[eth0s]

I am claiming a softclear on jjh

We should not be hammering him this early, and probably not at all

Elaborate

I rolecopped jjh last night

I know his role is accurate to what he's claiming, and would likely be negative utility for scum

I will go into no further detail

Considering Elements was a scum bloodhound my likelyhood of trusting that claim is like .1%

actually mindmeld with TL here. I already addressed my thoughts on this situation but it is worth noting that TL pointing it out first gives him some sort of towncred (to me at least)

Why does TL not believe the claim when *he gave chemist the rolecop shot*

The negative utility for scum part. I'm (and TL was) saying scum had a fucking bloodhound so why should we be so certain that whatever chemist knows isn't just another weird scum role. At least that's how I took TL's post.

p-edit yeah what mena said

[Menalque]

What’s an arsonist?

With all the roles I would think scum needs more power not less, so if there were a traitor I think it’s more likely to be 3+1 than 2+1 where the scum team is slightly underpowered to compensate

[eth0s]

Well I have too many scumreads/leans right now to say I feel 3 scum is confirmed but I have this itching suspicion of an arsonist or something similar. I guess we'll know when we all go up in flames.

p-edit
jjh as long as you don't break the rules surrounding not quoting private information then I would like to hear anything that's going to help me sort you. Because I feel like it's not really a conspiracy theory at all.

I mean, it's a theory that I'm hiding a conspiracy from you in the PT with deb

I'm confused. I just think that you used info deb gave you to make calculated kills. Or at the very least it factored into it. If you think giving us a summary of the PT helps your case then go for it

[eth0s]

What’s an arsonist?

With all the roles I would think scum needs more power not less, so if there were a traitor I think it’s more likely to be 3+1 than 2+1 where the scum team is slightly underpowered to compensate

agreed

[Menalque]

Jjh what is your read on Eth0s?

He's towny in quite number of ways, and I don't doubt any of them at all because of how he pushed for elements

Okay so why do you think he’s this wrong on you?

[Elbirn]

I’m p sure TL means that he wouldn’t trust whatever the role is to actually be AI

Wasn't how I took it but I see it now, I'll sit down.

[jjh927]

Oh, I just checked the rules and I can't do post by post logs

I might continue writing what I'm writing and ask if I can post it