Open 768: C9++ [GAME OVER]

[teacher]

Yoink

[skitter30]

Oh sweet, thanks i'll switch it when i'm at a pc later

He has p decent scum equity, i think

[northsidegal]

i know that somewhere within probably my last 15 posts i mentioned not caring much for non-strongly reasoned gamestate reads

but i get the feeling that the scumteam is either piling on a50 or there is a non-insignificant amount of crossbussing happening

[northsidegal]

with what separates those two scenarios being whether or not a50 is scum, i guess.

[skitter30]

Idk i put a lot of sway into gamestate reads, i agree that scum is prob piling onto him rn

[teacher]

Have you been in a game where both the D1 wagons have been on scum bag? I mean for real? I haven’t. I’ve seen scum get lynched D1 +rand (one benefit of the newb queue), but the implicit assumption of that feeling is ... unlikely, ya?

[teacher]

Bag=NSG

[northsidegal]

Idk i put a lot of sway into gamestate reads, i agree that scum is prob piling onto him rn

well, obviously any point that could be made there will carry some actual weight given some flips rather than the conjecture that it stands as right now

[northsidegal]

Have you been in a game where both the D1 wagons have been on scum bag? I mean for real? I haven’t. I’ve seen scum get lynched D1 +rand (one benefit of the newb queue), but the implicit assumption of that feeling is ... unlikely, ya?

Sharing is Caring D1 VC #17

jjh927

(4): northsidegal,

the worst

,

pinturicchio

, ruru,

the worst

(3): HitAlt,

jjh927

, Mathdino,
HeWhoSwims (3): davesaz, ofrhz, BlackStar,

Not Voting: Something_Smart, Zoronos, HeWhoSwims,

[teacher]

Fair enough.

[northsidegal]

i've also modded enough games where a scumteam was essentially all caught individually d1 and immediately resolved to cross-bus which ended up carrying them a significant amount farther into the game that i consider it a very serious possibility.

i've seen it enough times that it's a quote i put on my wiki page to remind myself.

A scumteam caught early on will push each other down to stay afloat. Don't be quick to clear people for being a counterwagon to scum or for having been voted by scum.

[teacher]

Fair enough. I subscribe to CFJ’s views on bussing generally, but haven’t been scum enough to actually play out that kind of situation. It would certainly be outside of my expectations but I can appreciate your experience on it.

[skitter30]

I changed my mind on wicked, btw, i think he might be town

[northsidegal]

one thing that pinged me with regards to bussing as a means of staying alive longer was bingle's questioning of wooper starting around 2410

but before i go into that i'm gonna respond to something i missed previously and saw just now looking through his iso

well i recently finished a game with egix where we were scumpartners (and i played pretty terribly) and i remember that one of his problems there was his reticence to take any sort of strong stance. that was one of the first things that i looked at in his ISO when i skimmed before, and it felt like he was definitely making reads pretty freely.

You mean this, right before she said she didn't actually read before replacing in?

Yeah... color me unconvinced.

here's what i didn't read before replacing into this game: the game in its 60-70 (at the time, if i recall correctly) entirety, blatant scum's ISO in any sort of depth.

here's what i did read: egix and norwegian's ISO's enough for me to be confident enough in them being town to warrant replacing into this game. i like replacing into townslots, it's true, but far more often i'll replace into games because i already have strong reads – i don't like to be completely lost replacing in. you (and some others) should know this to be a fact given my replace-in to innocent evil people – i had A50 as lockscum and a prety good handle on the setup and tried replacing in as soon as i could. it was a lot more about that then it was about me thinking cheeky (whom i replaced, for the unaware) was town.

that's all in the past. here's what's in the present: i am still confident that egix is town. i think it's a fairly sound read and i have more than a single game of "hot meta" to justify this, although it's not necessarily something i can discuss.

[northsidegal]

i know that somewhere within probably my last 15 posts i mentioned not caring much for non-strongly reasoned gamestate reads

(haha, wow. i decided to check just for curiosity—it was exactly 15 posts from this one.)

[skitter30]

Nsg i think jingle is under the radar scumclaiming

[northsidegal]

it's entirely possible. i don't think he has good associatives with the other slots that i consider the scummiest.

i'm not sure whether i should be happy and confident in myself given that we seem to be on the same page, or concerned that i've come to the exact same conclusion that i know you've come to previously.

[skitter30]

The one vote on me I truly dont get, given our history, was Skitter. To me, that interchange, pedantic though it might have been, was so similar to 1951 (right down to the miscommunication with foreigners) that I dont get how it looks scummy in her eyes. Thats kind of why I wanted to vibe with Menalque about it, since he was there too.

You feel more self-righteous here, almost, but i'm not sure it's genuine

[skitter30]

it's entirely possible. i don't think he has good associatives with the other slots that i consider the scummiest.

i'm not sure whether i should be happy and confident in myself given that we seem to be on the same page, or concerned that i've come to the exact same conclusion that i know you've come to previously.

Idk

[pisskop]

VOTE: skitter

[nomnomnom]

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• pisskop replaces Emperor flippyNips!

[skitter30]

so i'm inclined to think that your pushback there died down mainly because skitter's push on you died down and you didn't particularly feel like poking that bear with a stick when you could just let sleeping dogs lie and skate by for a bit longer, if you'll allow me to mix my metaphors for a moment.

Hmmmm

[skitter30]

Heya pk

[pisskop]

VOTE: unvote

was hoping to spook you. I havent read.

[northsidegal]

why do people like responding to things i say with just "hmmm"