Mini Normal 2101 - Electronic Music Mafia [GAME OVER]

[PMysterious]

I'm reading this, and my current scum team idea is this.

Flubb & Rob/Havo

Flubb hasn't really done anything warranting a town read, and the earlier vote interaction indicates either Havo or Rob are scum. If Skitter is scum, then the town wouldn't have enough power regardless, so I'm trusting her as Town.

Now for Havo and Robb. Havo, had every right to doubt me at the beginning, because prior to last night, I never visited him.

Robb, I'm skeptical about, because he did go against the idea of a mass claim, and he got pretty defensive when the mass claim happened. My heart is saying Robb, but I'm not holding out hope on that.

[Robbnva]

Robb, I'm skeptical about, because he did go against the idea of a mass claim, and he got pretty defensive when the mass claim happened. My heart is saying Robb, but I'm not holding out hope on that.

It's because I am fundamentally against mass claims

[Robbnva]

Havo can confirm (but probably won't) but back when we played on GLB, people would get lynched for suggesting mass claims. When I play on this other site, they often have games where you aren't even allowed to claim.

[Robbnva]

off topic - @Havo - Spinoda pixar mafia on FE. go sign up

[PMysterious]

Robb, I'm skeptical about, because he did go against the idea of a mass claim, and he got pretty defensive when the mass claim happened. My heart is saying Robb, but I'm not holding out hope on that.

It's because I am fundamentally against mass claims

It's understandable to be against mass claims, but like I said, you got defensive on the matter quickly. It almost as if it seemed you were trying to get people off of you quickly, which while I can see that, the blatant anger in your tone while posting did not win you any favor points.

[Robbnva]

I’m not playing for favor points though.

[Robbnva]

Havo can tell you (probably won’t). I’m a very angry person when it comes to mafia.

[skitter30]

Skitter. Did you ever explain why you chose Luca?

I wanted someone on the azure wagon
And since i'm loyal i wanted to try to target someone that i thought i'd get a result on; i wanted to try to avoid the no-result quasi guilty thing since i dont know what kind of power scum have

So someone i was semi-townreading on the azure wagon seemed like a good bet, and luca fit that profile

[skitter30]

I think i'm at flubb/ havo, with robb being annoying af

Either way it kinda feels like robb/havo isnt a thing
That leaves flubb/robb or flubb/havo

So even if we dont know the partner yet flubb seems kinda like the safest choice to lynch today

I'm not sure how we go wrong there unless havo/robb are ridiculously good at scum theater

[Flubbernugget]

Scum have to have some powerful prs, to make up for 9:2

It would kinda make sense for the md to be scum and for one of the vts to be lying

If both robb and flubb are scum they need to be prs in some way to make up for the balancing and then neither kill or act on the night havo was on each of them, which feels unlikely

But at the same time there's like no failed night actions or...anything

[Flubbernugget]

I still dont know what the fuck the point of loyal visitor is. I guess to interact with you somehow.

I think it functionally makes PM a cop

Which is SUPER fucking overpowered in this context though

[Flubbernugget]

Yep, brilliant plan if i'm scum here, i agree, clearing like a 1/3 of the potential lynch pool

Well you're close to a prefect game as scum so the dividends clearly paid off.

Tchill said something entertaining you as scum. I need to find it.

[Flubbernugget]

@flubber - what are your thoughts on havo v skitter.

Who do you think is scum out of the two?

Havo is for sure scum and needs to be lynched today.

Still 95% sure skitter is town

[Flubbernugget]

I still dont know what the fuck the point of loyal visitor is. I guess to interact with you somehow.

I think it functionally makes PM a cop

Which is SUPER fucking overpowered in this context though

No I got friendly neighbor and visitor backwards jfc

[Flubbernugget]

Skitter, is your visit compulsive?

[PMysterious]

Scum have to have some powerful prs, to make up for 9:2

It would kinda make sense for the md to be scum and for one of the vts to be lying

If both robb and flubb are scum they need to be prs in some way to make up for the balancing and then neither kill or act on the night havo was on each of them, which feels unlikely

But at the same time there's like no failed night actions or...anything

This isn't 100% confirmed. Keep in mind that on Day 2, Vork never put me as a Town read despite me visiting him on Night 1. So, it is possible that my night action failed and I got roleblocked on that night, or Vork was trying to save face. Either way, we can not truly confirm that there are no failed night actions.

I think i'm at flubb/ havo, with robb being annoying af

Either way it kinda feels like robb/havo isnt a thing
That leaves flubb/robb or flubb/havo

So even if we dont know the partner yet flubb seems kinda like the safest choice to lynch today

I'm not sure how we go wrong there unless havo/robb are ridiculously good at scum theater

I agree with Flubb being the safest lynch. If Robb and Havo are the scum team, then I will be amazed at their back and forth bickering. If there are people willing to vote on this wagon, then I will vote too, but right now, I won't vote due to the possibility of a quick hammer.

[Robbnva]

I still dont know what the fuck the point of loyal visitor is. I guess to interact with you somehow.

I think it functionally makes PM a cop

Which is SUPER fucking overpowered in this context though

how does it make pm a cop? He can only tell people he is town, he doesn't know if the people he is telling is town

[Flubbernugget]

Also luca is conftown to me
If he says pm is conftown to him why would i not be believing that here ?

If luca's trying to pull some shitty gambit and we lose because of it then i'll blame him for the loss but otherwise i see no reason not to believe him rn

Skitter, who was your second investigation?

I'm a joat, my second shot was a loyal visitor, which i used on fl last night.

I dont exactly have any useful information on the outcome of that tho

for skitter to fake an invest and crumb it on luca n1 then to have a friendly neighbor later conftown n2 luca is just incredible luck if skitter is scum. (luca and PM are conftown due to how luca's PM read changed from d2 to d3)

now that i think about it skitter should never be pushed as scum here. this is a situation where if skitter is scum she played well enough to deserve the win then got lucky enough to make it impossible for her to lose.

the fact that you'd even provide a scenario where skitter is scum is a scum claim in itself.

Hmmmmm

[Flubbernugget]

I still dont know what the fuck the point of loyal visitor is. I guess to interact with you somehow.

I think it functionally makes PM a cop

Which is SUPER fucking overpowered in this context though

how does it make pm a cop? He can only tell people he is town, he doesn't know if the people he is telling is town

Thought it was loyal friendly neighbor in skitter's post ifu

[PMysterious]

There aren’t 4 town PRs this game

I provided links to 3 games that support that. Feel free to find an 11P with 4 PRs

from a PR perspective alone...

friendly neighbor
1 shot JK
motion detector

makes more sense in a balanced setup than

friendly neighbor
1 shot jk
1shot loyal VT cop and 1shot loyal visitor

if pm were to message skitter n1 and then skitter cleared 2 others thats a total of 4 out of 5 possible townies cleared d3 (given clears or PR's dont get nk'd or lynched) which is a 66 percent chance town win.

so robb should be pushing skitter here, not havo, if his issue is the claims and PR's.

I believe motion detector is looked at as bringing down towns "power" given the confusion it may cause with 3 other PRs.

pair that with the fact that one PR is 1 shot and you have a completely (justifiable from the mods perspective) setup.

I found this in tchill's ISO, but, given that balance doesn't seem to be the biggest issue, we can go back to this on a later day. I'm putting this in my ISO for that reason.

[Robbnva]

Thought it was loyal friendly neighbor in skitter's post ifu

oh ok

[skitter30]

Skitter, is your visit compulsive?

Nope

[skitter30]

No pm's friendly neighbor
I'm 1s loyal vanilla cop 1s loyal visitor

[Robbnva]

I thought friendly neighbor put you in a pf

[skitter30]

?