Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[NorwegianboyEE]

Just one thing tho Awoo, why would there be exactly one mafia between the two in your opinion?

[Joey_]

Btw Joey, i think your "deepwolf" case on Awoo is awful. Awoo’s words repeat themselves, how can you be so confident when you’ve already been so wrong?
I’m thinking you might actually be town, and what’s really influencing my read is that i don’t agree with any of your ideas. Maybe i’ll switch to PM, need to think about it.

Not lynching titus was a mean to an end aka lynching you and you arent yet mod confirmed anything, so it's too soon to say I was wrong

[Awoo]

I think my logic was that there was probably another mafia on your wagon, and guiltylion was town, and creature was also town (something I am not 100% on anymore actually), and titus was scum, therefore by POE it's joey vs. PM. Maybe a little weak I know but once you start believing it it starts to sound a lot more believable.

Oh, the other actual good point of logic, remember that post I did with all the pretty colors?

Both PM and Joey said they were "okay" with lynching titus but in reality they were the strongest fighters in her favour. (by being against you, which had the result of being for her, so they don't get any blood on their hands for opposing a mafia lynch, they can just say they preferred you over her)

PEDIT: yeah like that

[Joey_]

Both PM and Joey said they were "okay" with lynching titus but in reality they were the strongest fighters in her favour. (by being against you, which had the result of being for her, so they don't get any blood on their hands for opposing a mafia lynch, they can just say they preferred you over her)

Thats not exactly true, my stance changed more than once the whole day; so did nEE, so did you. It just appears that way because I am a frequent poster and near the end of the day, I was the only one of nEE/you who were ambivalent & still wanted to lynch outside Titus

PM arguably defended Titus less than you did & passively lile nEE did

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok that makes it sound actually somewhat credible.
I’ll switch to PM since rereading his ISO, it doesn’t look like a town ISO at all. Meanwhile with Joey i’m actually having doubts with.
VOTE: PMysterious

[Awoo]

You are correct and my memory is very selective, I think PM was indeed most passive, the reason I bunch him up there with strongest supporter of nEE lynch is because he parked his vote on nEE and said he was OK with titus at least once then acted opposite to it all day.

I don't think you're mafia man, I think PM is mafia and I want to lynch him no matter how many times he said the word "lenient"

[Joey_]

Like you can try to spin it the way you want, trying to flip nEE while trying to towncase her counterwagon, regardless of the alignement of said counterwagon, is a very typical play. Being wrong, is also very typical of town and uninformed people. The read i was actually pushing -- read the agenda -- was lynching nEE because I assumed in my little naive mind that it was silly to put mafia in pool and was likely all Ts. You keep pushing a narrative about the day and everytime its getter farther and farther from the truth

[Nancy Drew 39]

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[align=center][size=200][color=#0000FF]VC 2.10:[/color][/size][/align]
[color=#0000FF][table][row][cell]Titus (6)[/cell][cell]Menalque [post=#11295924]391[/post], NorwegianboyEE [post=#11300239]479[/post], Sujimichi [post=#11303923]709[/post], pisskop [post=#11310157]818[/post], GuiltyLion [post=#11312676]882[/post], Awoo [post=#11313916]891[/post][/cell][/row]
[row][cell]NorwegianboyEE (4)[/cell][cell]PMysterious, [post=#11300952]492[/post], Titus [post=#11298854]474[/post], Creature [post=#11307939]804[/post], Joey_ [post=#11311609]834[/post][/cell][/row]
[row][cell]GuiltyLion (0)[/cell][cell][/cell][/row]
[row][cell]Not Voting (0)[/cell][cell][/cell][/row][/table][/color]

here i quoted one

Thanks.

[Awoo]

I don't care, I don't think you're mafia, I think PM is mafia, goodbye and goodnight.

[Nancy Drew 39]

VC 3.1

PMysterious (2)	Sujimichi 709, Awoo 891, NorwegianboyEE 479
GuiltyLion (1)	pisskop 818
Joey (1)	Menalque 391
Not Voting (2)	Guilty Lion 882, Creature 804

D3 ends in (expired on 2019-10-25 10:36:19)

Spoiler:

I hope this is right, I don’t know how to figure out the numbers in brackets.

(If I need to count the posts, I’ll do that tomorrow.)

[Joey_]

You are correct and my memory is very selective, I think PM was indeed most passive, the reason I bunch him up there with strongest supporter of nEE lynch is because he parked his vote on nEE and said he was OK with titus at least once then acted opposite to it all day.

I don't think you're mafia man, I think PM is mafia and I want to lynch him no matter how many times he said the word "lenient"

Dude, that post was because suji and you put pressure of my words about outing a towncase. The lenient thingy was basically the short resume of what I reminded of her scum play meta (being complacent) which explained why it felt like he was town (aka different, not complacent). The argument isnt based on the word "lenient", it was an illustration/exemple showing where my read came from

[NorwegianboyEE]

Shus kitty.

[Awoo]

VC 3.1

PMysterious (bruh)	Sujimichi 709, Awoo 891, NorwegianboyEE 479
GuiltyLion (just)	pisskop 818
Joey (write)	Menalque 391
Not Voting (them)	Guilty Lion 882, Creature 804

D3 ends in (expired on 2019-10-25 10:36:19)

Spoiler:

I hope this is right, I don’t know how to figure out the numbers in brackets.

(If I need to count the posts, I’ll do that tomorrow.)

[PMysterious]

Okay, so I'm wanting to say that in my defense, I had no idea it was T v S v T at least. In my mind, I wouldn't think Mafia would be dumb enough to put one of their own into the lynch pool on Day 2. And on top of that, I did not see anything that made Titus look more scummy than Norwegian on that day.

I admit to making a comment on Day 1 when it came to a lynch, but that was because I felt like I was going through deja vu. I wish to bring up a game that just recently finished, Electronic Music Mafia. (https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=80934)

Look through the first ten pages to get my point. And get this, the exact same thing happened here (outside of Mutant not voting himself). The person that ended up getting quickhammered was Town. At the time, I couldn't say this, but when I saw that the quicklynch happened, I knew directly after the hammer that Mutant was town. I said that because at the time, it's how I felt, and it turns out I was right. Another thing that was interesting was that in both games, at least one mafia was on the wagon leading towards the lynch. I didn't know Titus and Robb were Mafia at the time, but the fact remains that at least one has been there.

Another thing, both games required a co-moderator at some point to take over. Honestly, this just feels too convenient to be the case, and in fact, I could be wrong about Norwegian being scum, but at this point, the similarities are there, so take them how you will.

Yes, my ISO is weak, but when it comes to posting, I'm not the best at jumping to conclusions. Whenever I do, I'm usually wrong or I'm going about it the wrong way. What makes sense to me might not make sense to someone else, and I'm okay with that notion. My defense is that I got a case of deja vu and the quickhammer looked scummy to me. The reason I was fine with a Titus lynch, is because I am not good at convincing people by myself.

[Awoo]

Yeah, that's pretty good.

Still not sure what your deal was with joey and answering questions, you wanna talk about that? Like has it ever occurred to you that a mafia could answer one of your questions?

[PMysterious]

Yeah, that's pretty good.

Still not sure what your deal was with joey and answering questions, you wanna talk about that? Like has it ever occurred to you that a mafia could answer one of your questions?

Well, considering what happened in the past games, yes. It is possible, but I focused my gameplay on trust, which came to bite me in the end. So, I didn't think about that initially. Now that you mention it, I should be more wary about my questions. I wanted to trust Joey, which is why I asked those questions in the first place. I will admit, it wasn't the smartest idea, but it was an idea nonetheless.

[Menalque]

Was having a couple of days off site, back now,

Catch up + content coming later

[PMysterious]

Quick update for now.

Mod: I'll be V/LA until Friday evening.

Noted

[Menalque]

who's down for a pisskop lynch today?

VOTE: pk

[Creature]

Okay, let's see

VOTE: pisskop

[Creature]

Sorry I ended neglecting this game

[pisskop]

[tweet][/tweet]I'll help..VOTE: pk

[Menalque]

I think there is a scum in (creature, pk)

my patience is kind of gradually wearing thinner with creature but I prefer pk at the moment

empty ISO + I dislike the GL push

pedit: feel somewhat better about creature

[Menalque]

spicy

[Menalque]

Sorry I ended neglecting this game

what are your current reads? ideally with some sort of reasoning behind them but I'll take a naked list