Undertale Semi-Open 1.1 Dead PT

[chennisden]

Ok.

Then maybe they think i was obvtown more so than other people? idk.

[popsofctown]

One of my beliefs is that once you get a red role PM you have a harder time discerning between townreadable and null behavior, so I think they maybe yes overrated your towniness. I think Ginngie would have been a much stronger shot, I think people were townreading him more. Although I hesitate to second guess the mafia like that, I am no expert on being the bad guys.

[chennisden]

Whoever made the shot made a good shot. It's completely redirecting the game.

I just don't know who it is.

[chennisden]

I assume scum is in a comfortable position.

[popsofctown]

They might be

[chennisden]

:O GINNGIEEEEEEEEEE

[Tammy]

Having a policy of lynching whatever is at l-1 is one of the worst policies to have.

I’m not town reading nacho :/

[popsofctown]

It's a bizarre policy for Ginngie to state since self hammering for spare is correct from both scum and town alignment.

[popsofctown]

Flowey is evil D:

[chennisden]

Sorry bad tunnel on ya nymph

I still think elements is scum

[popsofctown]

How come Elements didn't misread the kill flavor the way nacho did, chennisden?

[Nymph]

Sorry bad tunnel on ya nymph<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I still think elements is scum

It's all good.

Elements scum.

Nacho or Wisdom is scum.

Why was I killed again?

[Nymph]

Actually, I'm like pretty sure Elements is scum in this situation if I'm dead.

[popsofctown]

It seems to me that it is possibly the case that Flowey is letting Jerry pick the kills because Jerry is picking kills that are far from being Flowey's calling card. I cannot ask the scumteam about this interpretation as it would possibly result in suggesting the strategy which would break impartiality.
I was surprised by the chennis kill too.

[popsofctown]

Elements shed tears for you Nymph! Could he cry over his own act!?!?!?

[chennisden]

How come Elements didn't misread the kill flavor the way nacho did, chennisden?

Well he didn't receive a dead PM for starters

[popsofctown]

I'm not sure why town wants to go 2-2. 2-2 generates 1 confirmed innocent in 5 man LyLo and then goes into a 3 man LyLo, when it's innocents that have been spared. So you need to make 2 accurate townreads to win that LyLo

If you feel you can make 2 accurate townreads, just win now? If the 2 accurate townreads are wrong in neutral, you lose. If the 2 accurate townreads are wrong in Pacifist, you get some amount of do-over, you get to do the spare a 5th person and guess the mafia game.

You also instantly lose 2-2 if scum is spared and people have pointed that out. But even when the 2 spares are clean, the way I'm counting it, pacifist is better. I think the flips are valuable but surely not as valuable as a do-over. Which is itself, kind of a flip, look at these people you liked, you were wrong about one of them

[popsofctown]

i've explained my point of view more thoroughly than necessary and am not interested in continuing this exchange for there are more productive things i need to do before sleep takes me away. i tried to rebel against the man but i lost. i'm chilling out and going with the flow as a result.

you can take this as a learning experience and read me better in the future OR you can blame me for the misread post-game, but all of the pieces of the puzzle to determining my alignment are in your hands. if i were scum, nymph wouldn't be dead and you wouldn't be alive.

Oh man he's roleplaying the flavor.
kakkoi des

[Nymph]

pops, did scum mention why they killed me? I thought I was going to be pretty easy mislynch bait ngl.

[popsofctown]

No reasoning mentioned at all

[Nymph]

scum is throwing

[popsofctown]

Xayah cracking the code on nka.

[Nymph]

Nacho speed lynch was bad.

Kill Chemist and Elements. At least 1 is scum in there. Why are we throwing?

[chennisden]

Oh.

Chemist is scum.

[Nachomamma8]

God I hate quickhammers. So much. Quickhammers are terrible. They are never a good idea. Why do they keep happening? Why would the Ginngie I love do such a thing to me?