Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[Joey_]

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prior to d2, creature slot was pretty terrible and didn't deserve the amount of T cred he got, his d2 is much better though

Menalque pretty much interacted and non-team told with the majority poe slots, including; creature, PM, GL. IMO he has to be town

About Awoo, I have a few reticences but there's just a few posts where it's very hard to think could be coming from mefias

nEE has been consistently genuine but with bad content. I don't really think a new player could keep up a tone like that for that many posts

Town; Menalque & Suji (for the sheer non-team tells with Titus)
Likely town; Awoo & nEE

Poe from page 17; GL, PM/pk, Creat in that order

[Joey_]

BTW I am thinking GL could very easily be scum salvaging the corresp slot, my 2nd guess would be PM but I need to reread the rest of the pages. Creature did non-team tell with titus a bit & with PM.
pk did non-team tell with GL iirc, so most likely town if GL is mefia.

So lets say theres 1 mafia in GL/pk & Creat/PM w/ awoo as my paranoia deepwolf read

[Joey_]

VC 1.5:

Mutantdevle (6)	pisskop 37, Titus 42, Correspondence 108, Menalque 124, Awoo 128, NorwegianboyEE 220
Titus (1)	Dongempire 63
PMysterious (1)	Joey_ 217
Not Voting (3)	Creature, mutantdevle 75, PMysterious 118

D1's VC. Warning; fallacious logic --> The wagon on mutant kinda proves my GL/pk as it's very unlikely all 3 mafia voted together first on mutant. The "wisdom" says 1-2 mefias on, 1-2 outside.

VC 2.10:

Titus (6)	Menalque 391, NorwegianboyEE 479, Sujimichi 709, pisskop 818, GuiltyLion 882, Awoo 891
NorwegianboyEE (4)	PMysterious, 492, Titus 474, Creature 804, Joey_ 834
GuiltyLion (0)
Not Voting (0)

D2's VC. Agan.. using the same "logic"; both PM and creature are again outside the wagon & GL slot voted - again- w/ pk.

The pk/GL/Awoo streak of votes in about 80 posts also points to a mefia posturizing & not wanting to get bad cred for not going on scum wagon. Awoo's fast vote after flip flopping comes to mind.

[Joey_]

GL also posturized and coasted the whole ordeal iirc

[Joey_]

VOTE: PM

[Joey_]

After team analyses, I came down to 4 possible team within my poe

PM/GL
PM/pk
PM/Creat
pk/Creat

If PM is town I am pretty much back to square uno

[Joey_]

If I use shady logic from 1176 then I am down to;

PM/GL
PM/pk
pk/Creat

[TrueSoulEnergy]

If I use shady logic from 1176 then I am down to;

PM/GL
PM/pk
pk/Creat

After team analyses, I came down to 4 possible team within my poe

PM/GL
PM/pk
PM/Creat
pk/Creat

If PM is town I am pretty much back to square uno

Who is PK and why am I associated with them?

[pisskop]

pk is one of the best players on site
who attracts paranoia lynches

[pisskop]

who did you replace, critter?

he is not really scum, nerds in the thread gonna nerd

[Awoo]

Throwback to when suji replaced in and posted a perfect political readslist and scumreads the popular wagon,
Now flygon replaces in and suji scumreads him for scumreading the popular wagon

Bye bye suji~

[Awoo]

Joey we can start testing your scumteams if suji flips green but I think if suji flips red you might have to die

[Sujimichi]

Now flygon replaces in and suji scumreads him for scumreading the popular wagon

That's not the basis for my read on him at all. Why make something up when I flat out said why I was associating him and PM?

[Awoo]

Trying to argue with you is like trying to argue with a nagging wife, I'm not stupid enough to do it. It's really tempting, but no! I'm taking a stand against this unacceptable behavior.

[Joey_]

If I use shady logic from 1176 then I am down to;

PM/GL
PM/pk
pk/Creat

After team analyses, I came down to 4 possible team within my poe

PM/GL
PM/pk
PM/Creat
pk/Creat

If PM is town I am pretty much back to square uno

PoE via non-team associatives, not team associatives in themselves
Who is PK and why am I associated with them?

[Joey_]

Throwback to when suji replaced in and posted a perfect political readslist and scumreads the popular wagon,
Now flygon replaces in and suji scumreads him for scumreading the popular wagon

Bye bye suji~

I know I realized that too, still suji's pred pretty much hard non-team told with titus, youd be blind to not see that

[Joey_]

BTW Awoo, the suji's townread is in the same way mutant was an actual read. Titus/PM were mostly shallow reads

[Awoo]

Fun fact I actually am blind, where was that?

[GuiltyLion]

@

mod

- can we get the latest VC?

my reads haven't changed much. 100% agree Suji's interactions with Titus do not look like scum-scum. 712 especially as I already linked. maybe that looks more obviously town to me since he's defending my slot from Titus but that's not scum trying to help their partner in any shape or form

[GuiltyLion]

After team analyses, I came down to 4 possible team within my poe

PM/GL
PM/pk
PM/Creat
pk/Creat

If PM is town I am pretty much back to square uno

this is pretty much where I sit just without me being scum (1114)

[Awoo]

Okay! I'll just trust whatever.

VOTE: PMysterious

[Joey_]

Fun fact I actually am blind, where was that?

Spoiler:

Fun fact I actually am blind, where was that?

36 is a joke vote, still in rvs. People that seem to be wagoning him based on that dont should reconsider.

Yeah no.

I think you're town but you give scum far too much credit. 36 is pretty scummy. I'd be pretty fucking surprised if mutant flipped town.

Suji’s slot looks obvious town with this classic distance-half-shade, classic TvsS

Like the purpose of that Titus post is to;

Discredit Dong’s take on mutant
Call Dong town so she probably be more receptive to the wagon Titus is pushing and maybe vote mutant with her
Increase the likelihood of the mutant lynch

You don’t really need to convince your scumbuddies - while buying their good sides with a tr

The exact point of RVS is to use exaggerated cases to push and use the content generated to make real cases. So why isnt that happening right here? Is it because youre too busy trying to defend mutant? is it because you stepped up to the plate to stifle conversation and take away that from everyone else?

What are you talking about? I dont scumread mutant over it, so im asking you to clarify. Since you are so stubbornly not doing that, i am defending him, yes.
I'll listen to your point of view if you explain it, right now all i can gather from this is that you scumread mutant over a rvs vote, if you want me to take your side i will, provided you actually convince me on that.

I'm not sure whether dong is trying to portray himself as reasonable here or if he really is uncertain. It's not about being correct, even though I think we are. It's about using pressure to sort people and get wagons going.

Right now, there's too much emphasis on who is wrong rather than. Let's try this.

Dong’s answer + Titus is also pretty TvsS; Titus decides to talk in 3rd person because she don’t want to escalade the confrontation, but she does so while shading Dong & giving herself an out if she eventually ends up needing to push/scumread Dong

Its pretty blatant when you know Titus alignement

I posted 83 in an attempt to pressure mutant from a position i felt comfortable in, because i realized that the position pk is taking is so ludicrous that i figured he was pressuring for pressures sake, yet i didnt want to jump in just because. Thats why i dont understand he is opposing me so much here.

That's because mutant's acts are scummy. It's not just pressure for pressure's sake. Even if I am reading it wrong, standing and attacking before any wagon gets three votes stops town from coalescing.

Unless you got a mod guilty, you shouldn't do that but RVS elsewhere instead.

Titus tries to convince Dong w/ “what should a good townie should do” which is pretty non confrontational and scum would only think about using this angle to convince mind you.

She also used the same angle when she both discrediting my read “mutants read is too abysmal to come from scum”, discrediting my slot “is joey derp town or scum? I am on med so its foggy” while no going against me head on. She also, again, gives herself an out to call me scum down the road

that was like a pago ago..

[Awoo]

Hey, all that stuff I didn't read was actually pretty good. Thanks for the recommendation!

[Joey_]

The openwolf attitude is one of the reasons why you are my paranoia read

[Awoo]

I've been open wolfing since day 1, I'm surprised you took this long to pick up on it.