Calendar Mafia - The End of Time (Game Over)

[Blatant Scum]

It's likely.

[I Will Be Nice]

Is no lynching actually that bad here then?

[Blatant Scum]

If you can't promise that 0verki11 and chemist will be townreaded, yes.

[I Will Be Nice]

Like, functionally I'm kind of aware that consolidating on xtoxm is unlikely, but it's probably still my preference given that I don't think the result of his night action is going to be beneficial for town and I think him flipping red gets us a really good start.

Even just seeing the resistance to a wagon there would be really useful for trying to parse tomorrow.

p-edit: I'm not sure I understand?
If your concern is "do we try to lynch overkill and chemist again tomorrow" then the answer to that is that I'm officially invested in this game and not wasting my time with a bad gimmick anymore and I'm going to get him lynched.
If it's something else then probably need to rephrase what you mean.

[Blatant Scum]

So if we are likely to lynch chemist/ 0verki11 tommorow, why do no lynch today?

[Papa Zito]

in agreeance

ack

I don't believe xtoxm's claim but I also don't think we can swing a wagon that way. There are several other slots I'd rather be wagoning right now but unfortunately this town has been absolutely dead asleep the entire day.

[I Will Be Nice]

So if we are likely to lynch chemist/ 0verki11 tommorow, why do no lynch today?

I just said that we aren't????

ack

Whatever!!!!

I don't believe xtoxm's claim but I also don't think we can swing a wagon that way. There are several other slots I'd rather be wagoning right now but unfortunately this town has been absolutely dead asleep the entire day.

I've definitely been being dead weight so far, so part of that is my bad.
I think I should be good from here though, my schedule is a little less crazy and dropping the gimmick has made posting today feel like a lot less of a chore so, there's that at least.

Are you in

agreeance

with BS that we should lynch one of Chemist/Overkill even if they're probably not going to flip scum?

[I Will Be Nice]

Zito won't care about this, but I have some weight invested behind RCE's Chemist townspew.
And Overkill's had some posts that I don't really see scum making anyways.

Both combined with xtoxm being apathetic scum not caring which vote goes through while coasting on a claim make me feel pretty confident we're not getting a redflip unless we swing back to xtoxm.

[Papa Zito]

My agreementation with BS is very high. There's a 0% chance of swinging elsewhere and I'd rather see one of them feed the vultures than have a bunch of poor unhappy birds staring at me with those soulless soulless eyes.

I'd also toss back the xtoxm argument to you - what, precisely, has Overkill done that makes him seem like he's "probably not going to flip scum"? Because I'm not seeing anything.

pedit: ok well fine then

[I Will Be Nice]

ok well fine then

I mean, it's meta based for Chemist, so I'm not expecting you to be convinced by that.

I can try to find some Overkill quotes that I felt pretty good about, if you think that'll be useful?
If it's just an exercise in "who do you think we should beat up between overkill and chemist" then I can do it, but I'll probably also be grumbling while doing it.

I'd rather see one of them feed the vultures than have a bunch of poor unhappy birds staring at me with those soulless soulless eyes.

Can you walk me through why though? Like, I guess if the idea is that a townflip from someone that a lot of people are scumreading might help them recenter, then, like, maybe?
I guess there's also that if I die tonight then xtoxm is probably only a maybe for actually being lynched with this playerlist. >.>

[I Will Be Nice]

what, precisely, has Overkill done that makes him seem like he's "probably not going to flip scum"? Because I'm not seeing anything.

There's also that I think xtoxm cares more about his vote here if they're partners, if that wasn't clear.

[I Will Be Nice]

Eh, Overkill's ISO is less good than I remember it being.

Consider my vote on the biggest wagon. I’ll let y’all decide where that is.

if both me and chemist are town this is probably scum ngl.

I like this post?

Otherwise I'm not really sure what happened to his pants/BS reads and there's a lot of promises of content that never materialized. I kind of get how someone could feel that Chemist's posts feel wonky even if I'm not seeing it as much anymore. There's also maybe that his posting might be a little more careful/clean as scum? But I'm kind of stretching with that.

Overall he's sitting in a more nullish spot than I've had him previously, I still don't really feel like there's anything that screams scum though.

[Cookie Bakers]

We have 3 hours and need one more Overkill vote.

If Overkill flips scum, I want Painting hanging.

[I Will Be Nice]

I need a gif of a balloon deflating.

[Papa Zito]

Can you walk me through why though? Like, I guess if the idea is that a townflip from someone that a lot of people are scumreading might help them recenter, then, like, maybe?
I guess there's also that if I die tonight then xtoxm is probably only a maybe for actually being lynched with this playerlist. >.>

I'm stuck in meeting hell ama

Without a clear, Overkill has just a good a chance as anyone else of being scum here. It's Day 1 and we're flying blind, there's no magical infofairies here to guide what we're doing. Given purely what's in the thread, then, I don't see Overkill being this huge potential town asset that we absolutely must keep in the fold or else we're doomed. Plus his claimed role isn't something that screws us over with losing.

Really I'll just go back to the pragmatic side of things - We struggled to get this town to, uh, L-3 ish? And we're at deadline. There's just no time.

[Cookie Bakers]

There you go.

~Titus

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: 0ver

Beep

[TheWizard]

That's hammer.

This town is so dumb. The 0ver lynch was obviously hard-pushed at the end to get attention off of Chemist.

[TheWizard]

How did the chemist wagon even get traction, it's led by wizard and Ovek11l..

because anyone with a brain can see it

Oh yeah I scumclaimed as an OBVIOUS JOKE, WHICH I STATED AS SUCH BETTER LYNCH ME

For everyone's reference, this was the post where Chemist hardclaimed scum:

There's no way a wagon on me this fast doesn't have scum on it

VD's vote was the best I think because he actually evaluated my slot beforehand

BS's progression on 0verki11 is so weird but it's really blatant (pun subconciously intended) so it's kinda towny

Karnage's was bad because the check on whether the wagon would go through sounds like a stalling tactic, but if he had legit reason to vote me he didn't need to make that post

VOTE: Karnage

jumping off/on the 0verki11 wagon again. you must be exhausted

I was under the assumption that the 0ver wagon wasn’t going through

He "was under the assumption" that the largest wagon wasn't going through,

while he (Chemist) was the second largest

. That only makes sense if he's scum and knew that the lynch was going to be manipulated (they were likely still planning to push JW at that time).

[Cookie Bakers]

That's hammer.

This town is so dumb. The 0ver lynch was obviously hard-pushed at the end to get attention off of Chemist.

I will teach you VCA at some point.

The Overkill wagon came before the Chemist wagon.

[I Will Be Nice]

Well, at least I didn't have to hit submit on that Overkill vote I guess.

[Cookie Bakers]

How did the chemist wagon even get traction, it's led by wizard and Ovek11l..

because anyone with a brain can see it

Oh yeah I scumclaimed as an OBVIOUS JOKE, WHICH I STATED AS SUCH BETTER LYNCH ME

For everyone's reference, this was the post where Chemist hardclaimed scum:

There's no way a wagon on me this fast doesn't have scum on it

VD's vote was the best I think because he actually evaluated my slot beforehand

BS's progression on 0verki11 is so weird but it's really blatant (pun subconciously intended) so it's kinda towny

Karnage's was bad because the check on whether the wagon would go through sounds like a stalling tactic, but if he had legit reason to vote me he didn't need to make that post

VOTE: Karnage

jumping off/on the 0verki11 wagon again. you must be exhausted

I was under the assumption that the 0ver wagon wasn’t going through

He "was under the assumption" that the largest wagon wasn't going through,

while he (Chemist) was the second largest

. That only makes sense if he's scum and knew that the lynch was going to be manipulated (they were likely still planning to push JW at that time).

Faulty. I'm not going to say why as Chemist could reply. If we were in a hood, I'd explain.

[Cookie Bakers]

Well, at least I didn't have to hit submit on that Overkill vote I guess.

Do it in case my math is off please.

[TheWizard]

That's hammer.

This town is so dumb. The 0ver lynch was obviously hard-pushed at the end to get attention off of Chemist.

I will teach you VCA at some point.

The Overkill wagon came before the Chemist wagon.

That doesn't explain how the 0verkill wagon got hard-pushed at the end of the day, vs the wagon on claimed-scum.

[I Will Be Nice]

VOTE: Overkill
for the overkill yay.

p-edit: I really don't follow how that post makes him claimed scum?