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[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.11

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Jamelia

(3): DrDolittle, tictac, january

skitter30

(2): Zenith, GeorgeBailey

Zenith

(1): Jamelia

january

(1): Vorkuta

Not Voting

(2): Suspicious, skitter30

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-10-26 08:30:00).

Mod notes:

skitter30 is the new ceejayvinoya. DrDolittle is the new FancyPants[/area]

[GeorgeBailey]

ayyy welcome to the party folks. Since my last vote was pretty much pressure I'll unvote.
And there's no real point in pressure when replacements are pretty much pressured to post from the get-go.

don’t really think anything ceejay has done is particularly scummy

agreed.

UNVOTE: skitter30

excited for the new (and familiar) faces.

As for current standings, I want to hear a bit from the new guys. And my opinion on Jamelia still stands, I don't think he's scummy. The "egg on your face" quote makes it seems like he gave up from being bombarded with meta questions. Although TicTac does make an interesting point on how he didn't reply to any of January's questions, so I'll give him that. And I hope the new content can give insight on the game state.

If nothing else comes up, i'll vote Jamelia. Because I do think TicTac is town, although a bit aggressive.
Sorry for the useless analysis, but nothing in the past few posts have caught my eye yet.

[Suspicious]

Well, Cee didn't do particularly anything period. There shouldn't be any passes given to slots; let them speak for themselves.

And @Bailey, I would certainly like to see more of a catch-up from you. #301 seems devoid of any kind of content that can be useful, and is essentially a series of a few middling observations.

[january]

Well, Cee didn't do particularly anything period. There shouldn't be any passes given to slots; let them speak for themselves.

you're clearly misunderstanding what i'm saying... ceejay was completely null. they weren't particularly towny or scummy. the reason people were voting them is because they weren't contributing. so what i'm saying is to take the votes off the new player so we give them a chance to contribute, and then determine whether they're town or not. I'm not giving them any more of a pass than I'm giving any of my other nullreads.

my opinion on Jamelia still stands, I don't think he's scummy. The "egg on your face" quote makes it seems like he gave up from being bombarded with meta questions

do you think this is towny then? or is it just null?

[Zenith]

#284 reads to me as frustration with being meta tunneled by tictac - and honestly i agree it’s a very bad reasoning to fully base a lynch on. at best it’s NAI (just frustration) but it kinda leans to me as mafia frustrated at being scumread for some dumb reason

might be my confirmation bias or something, don’t feel like it was at all towny though

I feel the exact opposite; I don't have any meta on Jam, but I don't think scum crumbles this easily. No defense, straight to a half-hearted AtE; it's lackluster play and feels more like a townie feeling they've been dealt an injustice.

It reads more like an overreaction to me.

welcome welcome

don’t really think anything ceejay has done is particularly scummy and i’d like to at least give skitter a chance to play - can we not vote her today pls

Ok..
VOTE: january

[DrDolittle]

Hello everyone! I'm a bit tired today so I'll catch up tomorrow!

[Zenith]

you're clearly misunderstanding what i'm saying... ceejay was completely null. they weren't particularly towny or scummy. the reason people were voting them is because they weren't contributing. so what i'm saying is to take the votes off the new player so we give them a chance to contribute, and then determine whether they're town or not. I'm not giving them any more of a pass than I'm giving any of my other nullreads.

Since when does voting for someone prevent them from contributing?

[skitter30]

P1 suspicious wagon very very loosely points to town!suspicious

I dont like fancy p1 either

[skitter30]

I like suspicious' entrance

[skitter30]

Zenith's naked vote against Suspicious seemed strange, and I wanna chalk it up to RVS, but the post was barren of any flavour/reasoning/anything.

VOTE: Zenith

Wny is the vote being bereft of flavour/etc a vote-worthy offense?

[skitter30]

I voted because that's literally the only way to make progress @D1.

Jokes aside, Sus's reaction to said wagon and the follow up interrogation gets him townpoints from me.
But like... come on guys, show a tiny bit of common sense with these questions

What specifically about his reaction makes you give him town points?

If suspicious is scum, I could see him as an easy early bus for easy distance. But the wagon moved pretty fast, so perhaps his partner got scared and backed off?

I dont particularly like this post, for a couple of reasons:

1. I agree with vork that sus had a good reaction to his wagon, so the fact that you dont seem to see it is a little ??? To me

2. Do you really think scum bus their partners p1?

[skitter30]

Actually before we get into point 2, what do you think 'bus' means @zenith?

[skitter30]

Also heya vork

[skitter30]

from Jamelias profile:
Last visited:17 Oct 2019, 16:31
that's in my local time so about 4 hours ago.

I feel like him just having a single post is scum-indic for him.

I dont think it is for him, necessarily

Suspicious did you say how much mafia experience you have?

[skitter30]

Hey hey you're too fast
to answer your question: i fos suspicious at the moment will explain in a sec

Huh

[skitter30]

Hey hey you're too fast
to answer your question: i fos suspicious at the moment will explain in a sec

Huh

I disagree with your suspicious read on this page but i think it probably comes from town

[skitter30]

I dont much like fancy pants
Fancy is almost never scum with jamelia here, i think

[skitter30]

? I only glanced at the game ya guys played, but I got the impression that sus was pretty obvtowny as scum?

Oh this is a useful tidbit

[skitter30]

. Not sure if that’s just a normal playstyle for them or a sign of nervous mafia

Normal playstyle for him

[Vorkuta]

Also heya vork

*waves*

[skitter30]

Am liking the recent content from tictac. Think I'll sheep for now and see where this goes.

VOTE: Jamelia
L-2

Oh dear

[skitter30]

I think jamelia is a mislynch rn

[january]

Since when does voting for someone prevent them from contributing?

well if they get lynched they can't contribute can they
i'd assume a vote at this point in time is a vote to lynch, so i'd rather not lynch someone who's at best null?

is there any reason you're voting me or is it just an "i don't like what you said" vote

[skitter30]

out of curiosity, how much “coaching” between mafia members usually occurs in the mafia chat?

Relatively common, esp between se!scum and newb!scum

[skitter30]

Tictac v Jam might have scum in it
Sus v Zenith is prolly TvT

Just based on the last few pages of interaction alone

Uhhhhh
I dont agree with these much at all