Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Kerset]

Also i am a little bit afraid that maybe scum got universal backup. If they do then they are setting up an intrigue to steal it.

[Something_Smart]

Oh, it's not a normal universal backup. Maybe but that would be a weird edge case.

[Billy Pilgrim]

VOTE: Wooper

Scummy rvs vote

If you think its scummy why'd you keep your vote on your random target?

VOTE: Skitter

[Kerset]

Draft choice is such huge source of information. With double role pick {8,9,10,11} are able to find out which roles were taken by top players. It's obv that both {9,10} are scum.
VOTE: Aaron

Oh? How did you reach this conclusion?

If they got 3 picks in sequence on the middle of list, then they can pick 3 different powerful roles as first choice. If they failed to get some of them, then they know, which roles were selected by #1/#2 picks. In this mode there is no riskin doing so, bc they still got second choice. The fact that we got exactly 9, 10 and 11 is odd, such perfect randomness in kind of high numbers.

[Something_Smart]

We had every number less than 12 except for 2 and 7. I don't think that's significant.

[Kerset]

We had every number less than 12 except for 2 and 7. I don't think that's significant.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... /Y#History
It is rare looking at previous games. Among 15 games: 567, 518 and 732were close to it by missing one number. One game 649 got this perfectly as our game and had scum there.

[Something_Smart]

The thing is, the advantage for picking a number in the 7-12 range is there for town as well as scum. The information from which pick you received benefits town and scum alike.

[Flubbernugget]

You're supposed to pick 5 guys thems the rules

[Flubbernugget]

Suji,

Who is scum?

[Flubbernugget]

78 is pretty interesting

[Sujimichi]

Suji,

Who is scum?

Three players in this game. Beyond that, I have no clue at this point.

[Something_Smart]

I like you.

[Something_Smart]

I think Kerset is town for a really dumb reason.

[Flubbernugget]

Suji,

Who is scum?

Three players in this game. Beyond that, I have no clue at this point.

Okay but my concern is that all you're doing right now is saying we have to wait for you to do things.

So for that one thing sure, but what about anything else in the interim?

[nomnomnom]

The setup spec discussion is flying a bit over my head, I'll be honest

[Sujimichi]

Suji,

Who is scum?

Three players in this game. Beyond that, I have no clue at this point.

Okay but my concern is that all you're doing right now is saying we have to wait for you to do things.

So for that one thing sure, but what about anything else in the interim?

I did not say that anyone has to wait for me "to do things." I asked that a specific question being directed toward me (which wasn't asked until I prompted) wait until later to be answered. This also does not prevent anyone else from doing "things," including asking me questions not related to the one which I asked to be answered later.

I am currently waiting on a follow up from Skitter. Is there anything you would like to discuss?

[Sujimichi]

The setup spec discussion is flying a bit over my head, I'll be honest

Off topic: Your avatar is fantastic.

[Flubbernugget]

Suji,

Who is scum?

Three players in this game. Beyond that, I have no clue at this point.

Okay but my concern is that all you're doing right now is saying we have to wait for you to do things.

So for that one thing sure, but what about anything else in the interim?

I did not say that anyone has to wait for me "to do things." I asked that a specific question being directed toward me (which wasn't asked until I prompted) wait until later to be answered. This also does not prevent anyone else from doing "things," including asking me questions not related to the one which I asked to be answered later.

I am currently waiting on a follow up from Skitter. Is there anything you would like to discuss?

What do you think of kersets play?

Why do you have to wait for skitter to tell you what's interesting in the game?

[Sujimichi]

What do you think of kersets play?

I think it's very mechanical and focused on the setup rather than the players.

Why do you have to wait for skitter to tell you what's interesting in the game?

I don't want to be told what's interesting in the game from her. I would like clarification as to what specifically she was referring to (other than the Governor discussion as I already stated) since she was using it as one reason to say that my behavior was scummy.

[Flubbernugget]

I think something_smart, suji, and kerset(???) are probably town

[nomnomnom]

Hm...

VOTE: Flubber

[Flubbernugget]

Go on

[PMysterious]

I actually didnt entirely understand what the second number was for

Late to the party, but this is why I chose a number other than 1. I didn't even know what numbers were considered draft numbers.

Anyway, I'll try to catch up this weekend. I'm going to be V/LA for today and most of tomorrow.

[Xayah]

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[nomnomnom]

Late to the party, but this is why I chose a number other than 1. I didn't even know what numbers were considered draft numbers.

Here's a theory:
Do you think that scums were more likely to understand that rule? They had a PT, they probably had a talk before choosing and they probably asked what the numbers meant since it's easier to ask that in a PT, rather than send a message to the mod, correct?

That means that people that make a nonsensical choice in terms of numbers have more chances to be town, while the people that have optimized numbers have more chances to be scum. That is unless scums are one step ahead, but yeah. That seems like a decent theory in my mind.