Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[Menalque]

I was a delayed roleblocker

An alarm clock, so I woke anyone I targeted up early and made them too tired to take an action the next night

[jjh927]

Adorable was the one person in the game who could claim motivator without me assuming they were scum for targeting TL N1

[Menalque]

I targeted elements, mastina, adorable

So mastina was Rb’d last night

[jjh927]

Oh this deduction seems less impressive when you look at POE for who the motivator could be

[jjh927]

I targeted elements, mastina, adorable

So mastina was Rb’d last night

So THAT's why Mastina strongly hinted at protecting me again

Because she wasn't gonna be able to

[Menalque]

I might have got to Eth0s scum but I think only in mylo/lylo and even then idk for sure

[Menalque]

Would she have known in advance tho?

[Sujimichi]

Fucking great shot whoever killed Eth0s

Thank you. I’m just glad I changed my mind on mastina.

EspressoPatronum gets credit for the eth0s kill as well since it took two shots.

What made you go for ethos though? Was it just the fact that EP had already primed that one and you wanted to get a kill off or did you logic it out? Good game save regardless cuz I wouldn't have ever thought ethos was scum I don't think

I had three targets to choose from. I originally submitted mastina but then changed to eth0s given what I said above. I didn’t like his play around the TL lynch which is why I chose him over jjh.

[Elbirn]

Ethos did have a sort of last ditch push on JJ instead of TL that I should have thought about, you're right

But then again JJ did the same thing with EP when Elements was going down

Mafia is made up fairy dust and nothing matters

[Menalque]

I fucking hate being a roleblocker incidentally

It’s like my least favourite role and the only thing I ever seem to get

[jjh927]

I might have got to Eth0s scum but I think only in mylo/lylo and even then idk for sure

I might have been able to swing you on him fakeclaiming. He was locked into a very questionable fakeclaim that wouldn't hold up to setup spec as being town even if it was true, and he'd have had to have faked how it got powered up too.

Would she have known in advance tho?

I assume based on that flavour description you gave that yes. There's a meaningful game design difference between being unable to act and being blocked from acting

[Menalque]

And to think, I was planning to hard push suji today

[Menalque]

I’m kinda disappointed not to have seen the power ups tbh, especially if they came with new flavour

[Sujimichi]

What was it that made you think so strongly I was mafia?

[jjh927]

Again, massclaim would have solved this problem

Suji was the vig in the setup

[mastina]

In hindsight the fact that his power was super fuckin similar to mine should have been an alarm bell
We claimed in our pt and although he said disloyal jailkeeper I was actually thinking in my head all game that it was roleblocker
And it never occurred to me “hmm, two roleblockers for town is kinda weird actually”

I don't know why Gamma didn't just call ethos's role an Alien because combined roleblocker/rolestopper is an existing role, Alien, which has been around onsite since before I joined (it predates 2008), and which has been Normalized as a whitelisted role.

[jjh927]

I think I recall you mentioning that I suddenly stopped pushing Suji at day 3 but I didn't want to give scum any ideas

[jjh927]

In hindsight the fact that his power was super fuckin similar to mine should have been an alarm bell
We claimed in our pt and although he said disloyal jailkeeper I was actually thinking in my head all game that it was roleblocker
And it never occurred to me “hmm, two roleblockers for town is kinda weird actually”

I don't know why Gamma didn't just call ethos's role an Alien because combined roleblocker/rolestopper is an existing role, Alien, which has been around onsite since before I joined (it predates 2008), and which has been Normalized as a whitelisted role.

Calling it combined makes it fit in with all those modifiers

I could see it plausibly powering up to separate roleblocking and rolestopping

[jjh927]

It probably didn't though

[jjh927]

Mastina, what was your role

[mastina]

Was it Chemist with the doctor? Or Chemist with the roleblock? Or Mastina with whatever protective role she had?

Wasn't me. I healed damage dealt by the game mechanic. And, yes, healed you every single night including last night. This was my role:
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: MMRT UPick Role PM
Date: Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:35 pm
From: Gamma Emerald
To: mastina

mastina

Hello mastina! You seem to be fortunate enough to have not been corrupted, so you are aligned with the town. You have been given abilities based on a 2-liter water bottle, making you a Medic.

Treat wounds (Medic): You may heal a player of any damage taken that night or previous nights. This will not stop kills resulting from causes other than damage. You may self target.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town is alive.

(Incidentally, water bottle was my third choice, not my first or second. My first/second were a mechanical pencil and a mechanical clic-eraser. All three are half of my objects of power.)

Incidentally: twice, I considered self-protecting. On D1 before I had a townread on jjh, and last night, when Suji not so subtly implied the plan to damage me. But both times, I decided that protecting jjh > selfishly self-protecting.

[mastina]

Because she wasn't gonna be able to

I wasn't told I was roleblocked.
So saying I was going to protect jjh had a more simple motivation:
I was under the impression that, beit to the scum nightkill or to Suji, I was going to die last night, and I wanted my last post to make it unambiguous what my actions were after I had died.

[jjh927]

So your entire role was to undo what the vig did

You'd probably have got more out of getting powered up by most


Also yeah there's nothing there that I would consider a modifier

[jjh927]

Shit so why did deb have a backup that was probably of that

[jjh927]

I guess you would heal people who targeted Elbirn too

But most of the town power seemed to be given out by scum!TL to Chemist even though that was fairly short-sighted scumplay