Mini Theme 2103 - E Bastard

[Vorkuta]

nom, darling, like...

You understand that I'm going to play this differently depending on whether I think today is proper Lylo or not.
And that kind of heavily depends on the math

shos's 5:2:2 vs my 4:3:1:1/4:2:2:1

[nomnomnom]

It still makes no sense to think that there was a cult in the first place, honestly. At least to me. Doesn't matter.

You still think shos is not scum?

[Vorkuta]

It still makes no sense to think that there was a cult in the first place

Hence 4:3:

1

:1 (town-scum-cult-3p/wildcard) being one of my options.

6:2:1:0 is being waaaay tooooo naive IMHO.
Plus (casual reminder) we've already used up our non-bastard role quotas so people are lying.
I MIGHT buy "oh I'm not actually VT, I just have a bastard negative utility roll" from some people as an excuse for not being honest, but that's the beauty of bastard-quota: it's NAI.

You still think shos is not scum?

Considering our most recent game together (robb in EMM- also what I was referring to in spoilers baaaaack then) and the death tunneler's flip, I'm forced to reconsider how I treat blind tunneling and its AI implications.
shos' play so far has been quite anti-town for sure, but he's built up decent goodwill back in D1 and D2 so at best I can demote him to just null.

Spoiler:

And of course there's something you should know but neither of us are allowed to discuss

redacted

[nomnomnom]

Vork, I know you've been referring to this over and over, but I genuinely have no idea what you're referring to. I'm being honest here.

[Vorkuta]

2 game days and 800 posts ago so I'm pretty sure the relevance has expired but it was a supporting argument in blanket statement of "you say I'm scum in every game we have out of principle, thus people- take nom's preaching with a grain of salt"
We've moved past that now.

[Vorkuta]

Ayt time to bookeep volume 2

---not-Ded---
shos- VT #812
PMysterious- VT #856
nomnomnom- VT #790
Iconeum- prolly bastard-PR #823
cyrus62- VT #870
Vorkuta- prolly not-bastard-PR #972
gameplay506- ??
Chemist1422- basically VT #966
Chickadee- VT #946

---Dead----
RCEnigma- VT #584
Baezu/FF- VT #765
Korina- ??? (modkilled, but I'm assuming ???) (Bastard role)
Doctor Drew- recruiter #763 (Bastard role)

---Verdict---
Best case scenario of 6non/7bastard (casual reminder that this is the BARE MINIMUM from the mod's wording- 2 non-bastard roles and 11 bastard roles also satisfies the "at least 50% wording)

Now the question- are people "lying" intentionally, or because the mod lied to them as well?
Discuss

[Vorkuta]

Like hell
I'm willing to consider the possibility that my roll might be bastardizedf/tampered with
That's still too many VTs

[Vorkuta]

{Chika, Chemist}
{shos. nom}
{cyrus, jigglypuff}

I think this is how I want to play it

[nomnomnom]

What do these pairings mean?

[Vorkuta]

VT read list
{town}
{null}
{scum}

It'd be great to determine whether anyone had a 180 personality shift after being recruited after D1
or what the recruitment criteria EVEN WERE (7:1:1 anyone? ) but yeah

[nomnomnom]

The levels of apathy are seriously unnerving this game, it'd be great to talk to ANYONE. What happened to this game honestly? Korina's death killed the mood of this game and it's like no one cares. At all. It's annoying me a lot.

[shos]

It's amazing how 9/11 are not voting and we've gone through 60% of the day.
I'd love it if anyone ever responded to my posts to which I refer again and again

[shos]

Also quit blabbering setup specs. You've wasted zillions of time already on it and once again, nothing ever guarantees that any of the guesses is true. Even if we are theoretically in lylo, it's not versus 1 team so effectively we can still progress normally and tomorrow will be lylo..

[Vorkuta]

I take some responsibility for discouraging wagons due to quickhammer fears.
But now..... :/

[Chemist1422]

or chemist can officially full claim VT if he wants to
it would give me a nice post # for bookkeeping reasons

also rip me at night

yeah I’m VT

[shos]

I take some responsibility for discouraging wagons due to quickhammer fears.
But now..... :/

At super worst scenario there's a scumteam of 3.

[Chickadee]

I feel like I've been missing something for quite some time. Where did people find that at least 50% of roles will be bastard roles?

[cyrus62]

flip me if you like but after words look in to vork shos and icon if not icon game play. i said it alot no night actions that was my chumb i am vt. vork could be scum so could shos i have some doubt inn icon being scum . so now with this being said 5 to lynch vote me if you want but after i flip trust my reads.

[cyrus62]

ofc i thought chick was pr the way he said something earlyer. so with this being said to prs icon and vork if you tracked some one who and gult or innocent?

[cyrus62]

vork your right on one thing we lose today if we pick wrong.

[shos]

flip me if you like but after words look in to vork shos and icon if not icon game play. i said it alot no night actions that was my chumb i am vt. vork could be scum so could shos i have some doubt inn icon being scum . so now with this being said 5 to lynch vote me if you want but after i flip trust my reads.

This guy is definitely not town lawl

But I'm still betting on him being cult and not scum, so he's for laterz. If there's a vig...

[shos]

vork your right on one thing we lose today if we pick wrong.

I'll need an explanation for this

[cyrus62]

Ayt time to bookeep volume 2

---not-Ded---
shos- VT #812
PMysterious- VT #856
nomnomnom- VT #790
Iconeum- prolly bastard-PR #823
cyrus62- VT #870
Vorkuta- prolly not-bastard-PR #972
gameplay506- ??
Chemist1422- basically VT #966
Chickadee- VT #946

---Dead----
RCEnigma- VT #584
Baezu/FF- VT #765
Korina- ??? (modkilled, but I'm assuming ???) (Bastard role)
Doctor Drew- recruiter #763 (Bastard role)

---Verdict---
Best case scenario of 6non/7bastard (casual reminder that this is the BARE MINIMUM from the mod's wording- 2 non-bastard roles and 11 bastard roles also satisfies the "at least 50% wording)

Now the question- are people "lying" intentionally, or because the mod lied to them as well?
Discuss

just 2 you say, hold it 3 vts inculding me fish and rce so this begs to pled there is more vts 50% 6 non 7 bastard - 1 a death at start 6 vs 6 50/50

[cyrus62]

vork your right on one thing we lose today if we pick wrong.

I'll need an explanation for this

9 - 3 = 6 - 1 cult = 5 we lynch aka me that leaves 4 vs 3 - 1 nk 3 vs 3 we lose

[cyrus62]

im pretty damn sure shos is scum